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Ean Austral
24th December 2009, 04:18 PM
Gday All,
Im sure this has been covered, but how do people tighten the oil filter on the td5 engine....Yes that wonderful one behind the turbo.
Been looking for a suitable tool but had no luck yet..
Thanks and Cheers Ean
dmdigital
24th December 2009, 04:38 PM
Couple of things to try:
Large cable tie.
Kincrome (and others) make a webbing strap tool that you wrap around and tighten. Should be able to get one from any auto parts place.
http://www.kincrome.com.au/web/catalogue/search/product_display.php?partnumber=K080005
Remember it doesn't have to be done up very tight.
alien
24th December 2009, 05:01 PM
I have been knowen to "tap" the top rolled section of the filter with a blunt screwdriver.
BUT BE GENTLE, a bit like doing wheel bearings without the right spanner.
LandyAndy
24th December 2009, 05:35 PM
Somebody on here posted the perfect method the other week.Piece of soft cord wound around the filter twice.Hold both ends and pull to undo.
Havent tried it,sounded so simple.
Andrew
crash
27th December 2009, 01:37 PM
Filter pliers - go get a set NOW, beats all other methods hands down.
Ean Austral
27th December 2009, 03:04 PM
Filter pliers - go get a set NOW, beats all other methods hands down.
Are these the same as the one's for sale at supercheap.?
Thanks and Cheers Ean
dmdigital
27th December 2009, 03:34 PM
Filter pliers are basically a really, really wide opening adjustable pliers. They may fit in the limited space of the Td5's engine bay.
Bigbjorn
27th December 2009, 06:14 PM
Hammer a screwdriver through the filter and turn the filter with the handle. I have used this old trick on a number of modern cars particularly the little oriental crappies with the tiny filters almost hidden from view or access.
Blknight.aus
27th December 2009, 07:10 PM
I do the rope trick when I forget to bring the CAM action filter strap. The tool box is packed right now but If I remember at the next service I'll show up the pics and how to tetris your arms around the td5 to make it work well
$10 from aldi for 2 in a blister pack.
They also work like a charm for gripping shock absorbers.
rovercare
27th December 2009, 08:54 PM
They also work like a charm for gripping shock absorbers.
I use the strap type to do the same:D
Ean Austral
27th December 2009, 10:02 PM
Hammer a screwdriver through the filter and turn the filter with the handle. I have used this old trick on a number of modern cars particularly the little oriental crappies with the tiny filters almost hidden from view or access.
I did that on the boat once and then found my new box of oil filters were the wrong one's, its amazing how well an araldite bandage around an oil filter will work..Never done it again...
I am just curious how people tighten the filter more than just hand tight..
Cheers Ean
rovercare
27th December 2009, 10:08 PM
I did that on the boat once and then found my new box of oil filters were the wrong one's, its amazing how well an araldite bandage around an oil filter will work..Never done it again...
I am just curious how people tighten the filter more than just hand tight..
Cheers Ean
You don't, just hand tight for oil filters;)
Pedro_The_Swift
28th December 2009, 06:09 AM
hmm, let me count,,
40 odd on the D1,
9 on the D2,,
all hand tightened,,
can I add all the Suburu ones?
thats another,,er, 35,
none have leaked or fallen off,,
have i just been lucky?
I dont think so Ean,,,:D
dmdigital
28th December 2009, 07:04 AM
hmm, let me count,,
40 odd on the D1,
9 on the D2,,
all hand tightened,,
can I add all the Suburu ones?
thats another,,er, 35,
none have leaked or fallen off,,
have i just been lucky?
I dont think so Ean,,,:D
Yes, just lucky;)
I've had two filters let go. One on my Td5 Disco which couldn't be explained and I put down to a crook seal as the filter kept loosening. The other, that really let go, was on the Tdi Defender when I bought it and had been put on so hard I struggled to remove it. Managed to get it off with the 3 pronged Kincrome filter tool in a badly damaged state. In this case it was obvious the previous owner had over tightened it.
I only ever hand tighten but I found on the Td5 I couldn't get my hand in properly and so used a webbing strap as it wouldn't let me over tighten.
Incredibly the Puma has the easiest filter to change that I have ever encountered and conveniently the filter housing is the same size as the wheel nuts so you always have a socket handy. Unbelievably Ford did something right.
Ean Austral
28th December 2009, 07:55 AM
I might have to try a different brand then cause my oil filter on the td5 always weeps, I even checked the housing when I removed the turbo last time thinking it may be warped or something.
I always make sure that the old O ring comes off so its not that. Always seem to be able to get it a little bit tighter the next time I check it as well, so it may be that particular brand.
Cheers Ean
Blknight.aus
28th December 2009, 08:01 AM
for the td5 filter if your only doing it hand tight and only have geek arms this will always be an issue.
I find that a chunk of inner tube gives that little bit of extra grip you need to make up for the strenght loss that I get due to the awkward angles you have to position your arm at.
putting them on with the engine still warm also seems to help.
Gold_TD5
28th December 2009, 08:07 AM
Yes, just lucky;)
I've had two filters let go. One on my Td5 Disco which couldn't be explained and I put down to a crook seal as the filter kept loosening. The other, that really let go, was on the Tdi Defender when I bought it and had been put on so hard I struggled to remove it. Managed to get it off with the 3 pronged Kincrome filter tool in a badly damaged state. In this case it was obvious the previous owner had over tightened it.
I only ever hand tighten but I found on the Td5 I couldn't get my hand in properly and so used a webbing strap as it wouldn't let me over tighten.
Incredibly the Puma has the easiest filter to change that I have ever encountered and conveniently the filter housing is the same size as the wheel nuts so you always have a socket handy. Unbelievably Ford did something right.
Define hand tight, I have always only ever hand tightened oil filters and have never lost one.
When removing I have always needed a filter wrench so my hand tight and Pedro's hand tight maybe real tight as we might be very strong in the wrists from riding off road bikes in my case.
AS a computer IT person who does not exercise this part of their body might not have the equivalent strength.
So their hand tight will not even be close to ours.
I have changed the oil filter on my TD5 3 times in the past 12 months of ownership, all hand tight and none have fallen off or loosened.
Maybe you should get a gym membership:p
Cheers Lionel
Utemad
28th December 2009, 08:12 AM
hmm, let me count,,
40 odd on the D1,
9 on the D2,,
all hand tightened,,
can I add all the Suburu ones?
thats another,,er, 35,
none have leaked or fallen off,,
have i just been lucky?
I dont think so Ean,,,:D
Checking the tightness of the oil filter was a weekly ritual on the F250s we had. They were always coming loose.
Gold_TD5
28th December 2009, 08:14 AM
I might have to try a different brand then cause my oil filter on the td5 always weeps, I even checked the housing when I removed the turbo last time thinking it may be warped or something.
I always make sure that the old O ring comes off so its not that. Always seem to be able to get it a little bit tighter the next time I check it as well, so it may be that particular brand.
Cheers Ean
I always wipe the mating surface with a clean rag and liberally smear some new oil on the new filter O ring before installation helps to seal it .
Just a thought if your not already doing it.
Cheers Lionel
scarry
28th December 2009, 08:17 AM
I have never changed an oil filter on the TD5 as they have either been under new car or extended warranty,so services have to be done by a qualified mechanic.They do look like a bugger to do though.
Have changed 100's on our work vans over the years as well as other vehicles such as dunny dores,etc.
What i always do is smear oil on the new seal & do them up as tight as possible by hand,on the smaller filters i often use a rag so i can get a good grip on it.
Never had a problem.
If you are concerned it is not tight enough,& may leak ,you could nip it up a fraction more with the removal tool.
greg smith
28th December 2009, 08:26 AM
I have a webing type that connects to ratchetdriver wind it on clockwise or reverse to tighten or release. Hard to get at: use an extension or swivel joint
BMKal
28th December 2009, 12:41 PM
I have a webing type that connects to ratchetdriver wind it on clockwise or reverse to tighten or release. Hard to get at: use an extension or swivel joint
I've made my own on a similar principle.
Simply a length of webbing strap pop-riveted to a length of steel square tubing. Ratchet drive simply pushes into the end of the square tubing - can use universal joint if you like, but I find I don't need it on the Disco. Use a longer length of square tubing than you think you will need, and cut it to length once you have tried it.
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