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crump
2nd January 2010, 05:51 PM
Had the sump off the Defender today checking the Oil pump bolt and all was well BUT any ideas where the M6 x 25 bolt that I found in the sump may have come from???:( Nothing obvious missing from underneath, maybe its a spare?

d2dave
2nd January 2010, 06:29 PM
Some engines have a support bracket for the oil pick up. Have you looked there?

Dave.

crump
2nd January 2010, 07:07 PM
Some engines have a support bracket for the oil pick up. Have you looked there?

Dave.
nothing missing there.:(

alien
2nd January 2010, 07:18 PM
Wonder if it's been there from new?
If the sumps still off have look between the timing chain for the lubrication jet and bolt.
The bolt head is below the jet outlet and around 60mm above the top of the bottom gear.
Also check the lower "brace"/stiffener plate to block bolts are all there.

lro11
2nd January 2010, 07:24 PM
Well I will tell you a funny story. I was in the Land Rover factory watching a range rover sport being built. The worker had just put the front and rear suspension on to the car and he was waiting for the next vehicle when a bolt fell out of the car onto the ground, he looked to the left and to the right and then threw it into the bin. So you say you found a bolt in your sump, I am really not surprised

crump
2nd January 2010, 07:40 PM
Wonder if it's been there from new?
If the sumps still off have look between the timing chain for the lubrication jet and bolt.
The bolt head is below the jet outlet and around 60mm above the top of the bottom gear.
Also check the lower "brace"/stiffener plate to block bolts are all there.
yeh, I sorta thought that might be the case, but being a Landy AND with the run of luck I've had with it lately I thought it more likely to be from a key component!

crump
2nd January 2010, 07:42 PM
Well I will tell you a funny story. I was in the Land Rover factory watching a range rover sport being built. The worker had just put the front and rear suspension on to the car and he was waiting for the next vehicle when a bolt fell out of the car onto the ground, he looked to the left and to the right and then threw it into the bin. So you say you found a bolt in your sump, I am really not surprised

forgot to mention I also found a Kipper and a cucumber sandwich!:D:D:(

lro11
2nd January 2010, 08:34 PM
forgot to mention I also found a Kipper and a cucumber sandwich!:D:D:(

Well you are lucky then I have a friend who worked at the rover car factory I bet you can't guess what they used to leave under the back seat of some of the cars (starts with s)

LandyAndy
2nd January 2010, 09:24 PM
HIT:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Thats so wrong!!!!!
Andrew

Bigbjorn
3rd January 2010, 07:55 AM
forgot to mention I also found a Kipper and a cucumber sandwich!:D:D:(

True Story. About 1960 a friend bought a new Morris Elite. In the boot was a square lump about 6" x 6" x 1" under the sound deadener and blue paint. At first service he asked the service dept. what it was as it was not shown in either the owner's handbook or sales literature. Dealer's staff had a look at others and were mystified. Eventually someone scraped off some paint and sound deadener to find a jam sandwich.

p38arover
3rd January 2010, 08:59 AM
I understand from blokes who worked in the UK Rootes factories that workers would put nuts or bolts inside box sections of a body, e.g., sills, etc., to rattle around.

This was done to annoy management! Only a Brit car worker would think like that. Not smart enough to realise that, in the long term, they were putting the whole company at risk

crl
3rd January 2010, 09:14 AM
True Story. About 1960 a friend bought a new Morris Elite. In the boot was a square lump about 6" x 6" x 1" under the sound deadener and blue paint. At first service he asked the service dept. what it was as it was not shown in either the owner's handbook or sales literature. Dealer's staff had a look at others and were mystified. Eventually someone scraped off some paint and sound deadener to find a jam sandwich.

Emergency rations in case you get lost in the country.

350RRC
3rd January 2010, 11:25 AM
A guy I know was directing the building of a car ferry a few years ago and apparently got under the workers skins over the months. They knew he was also going to be one of the skippers when it was finished.

In response to his demeanour they placed a large ball bearing on a horizontal bit of steel bracing in a wall of the master's stateroom behind the bridge. (where they correctly assumed this skipper would be entertaining 'guests' from time to time)

The slightest bit of roll would cause the ball bearing to roll from side to side hitting the vertical steel bracing each side, all day and all night. :)

Cost a lot of money to get removed.

cheers, DL

Bigbjorn
3rd January 2010, 11:34 AM
Emergency rations in case you get lost in the country.

Likely an assembler was eating on line, put his sanger down in the car and the line moved, and the guy at the next line station just sprayed on the deadener without looking. Eating on line was a common habit. This avoids wasting time eating at the pub in the short lunch break ensuring you can skol4 or 5 or more schooners in the half hour.

crump
3rd January 2010, 12:59 PM
A guy I know was directing the building of a car ferry a few years ago and apparently got under the workers skins over the months. They knew he was also going to be one of the skippers when it was finished.

In response to his demeanour they placed a large ball bearing on a horizontal bit of steel bracing in a wall of the master's stateroom behind the bridge. (where they correctly assumed this skipper would be entertaining 'guests' from time to time)

The slightest bit of roll would cause the ball bearing to roll from side to side hitting the vertical steel bracing each side, all day and all night. :)

Cost a lot of money to get removed.

cheers, DL
yeh, I heard one about a nut on a piece of MIG wire in the door pillar of a 70's Holden with a note on it saying "So you finally found me!"

p38arover
3rd January 2010, 01:08 PM
Had the sump off the Defender today checking the Oil pump bolt and all was well BUT any ideas where the M6 x 25 bolt that I found in the sump may have come from???:( Nothing obvious missing from underneath, maybe its a spare?

I've been going through the parts catalogue on the engine and have found there are ten M6 x 25mm bolts that hold the oil pump assembly into the block. Do you have them all? (These are in addition to the twelve M6 x 40mm bolts)

That's the only M6x20 bolt I can find in the engine.