price of the good old defender

[stig0000]

well, just a thought from you all about the price of the defender now that land rover will stop making the current "shape" defender, and the what i think is the original fender, not just td5(thebest:D) but all fenders

and with them been sort after as is, do you think that the defender will become a "classic" car and a priceless collectors item when they finally cease production;)

[Drover]

Stig000

I think the Defender is a unique vehicle, pretty much free of the techno-crap that haunts others, while through design can match all challengers off road.

It will be the end of an era for this type of vehicle, as I very much doubt the new Defender (if their is one) will be of the same ilk.

With that said, a good example that has been looked after will always be worth good money, regards less of age or model.

Long live the Defender.

Just my opinion.

Cheers

[HUE166]

I didn't know and am gutted!!!!! Why do they want to scrap the clasic shape??

[stig0000]

I didn't know and am gutted!!!!! Why do they want to scrap the clasic shape??
its dew to new laws for car safety thats coming out, and the fender shape,, well more so the chassis will not pass in anyway, it skimps in as it is. as it must have airbags, and all that stuff,

And rover say its just not cost effective to try and change the current car to make the new rules, and then they say for land rover to make a new car they have to sell at least 50,000 units a yr of a model, and the defender doesn't even make half that per yr, so its pretty much a no win for landrover and the defender as we no,

and i can't see landrover using the d3/4 chassis for the base of a new one,;)

[weeds]

i don't reckon prices will change when the end comes tot he current shape....i.e. i don't think there was a move when the 300tdi or td5 was fazed out 'end of an era', no different for shape

[inside]

and i can't see landrover using the d3/4 chassis for the base of a new one,;)
This is what is suggested will happen. As you said with the new model they need 50 000 units a year. They may sell half of that now but it's not sold in the US so there's a strong case for the Defender provided they can stick some airbags in it and DSC.

"Yes Mr Land Rover, in fact I would like to option up my new Defender with a supercharged V8, is it safe though?"

"Of course we have airbags and stability control!"

[stig0000]

This is what is suggested will happen. As you said with the new model they need 50 000 units a year. They may sell half of that now but it's not sold in the US so there's a strong case for the Defender provided they can stick some airbags in it and DSC.

"Yes Mr Land Rover, in fact I would like to option up my new Defender with a supercharged V8, is it safe though?"

"Of course we have airbags and stability control!"


yer thats true, is that cos 1 there only the puma engine and no 20,000,000L superchaged v10? or 2 a 110 to them is to small for them and they just simply can't fit in them:wasntme:,,

i still can't wate to see what the defender replacement will be, how can you folow on from such a icon;)

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Well I don't think LR will cock it up. I think they understand what they have and will do a good job on the next one. If they do that - then I think residuals on existing defenders will soften in time.

It may affect near new defenders (pumas) the most initially, and then as the second hand versions of the new ones come in it will affect all of them.

Having said that, at the moment the defenders routinely achieve prices (residuals) that would be the envy of all other brands. So, a little worse resale will still have them the equal or better of most competitors.

[Scallops]

i don't reckon prices will change when the end comes tot he current shape....i.e. i don't think there was a move when the 300tdi or td5 was fazed out 'end of an era', no different for shape

But this is different - moving from the "series" shape to ???? - still, prices will just reflect demand.

[PAT303]

I'm going to retire my old girl and buy one of the last puma's before the new one comes out.I want a defender,not a defender running on a disco floor pan which I recon the new one will be. Pat

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I'm going to retire my old girl and buy one of the last puma's before the new one comes out.I want a defender,not a defender running on a disco floor pan which I recon the new one will be. Pat

I understand what you're doing and I thought I might do that. I'll see what the new one is shaping up like, but have faith that LR might just do a really good thing :)
There is a chance they'll cock it up too but lets give them a chance!

[JamesH]

I understand what you're doing and I thought I might do that. I'll see what the new one is shaping up like, but have faith that LR might just do a really good thing :)
There is a chance they'll cock it up too but lets give them a chance!

Alas I'm not in the position to get a Puma before 2012 and freeze my beloved Tdi or even just trade up to a Puma. Getting dual batteries, aux tank, uhf, bull bar, tow bar etc for my Puma just to kit it out how my current car is would cost me how much? Nearly $70k? And I'd still be without vent flaps and a bonnet mount!

Nah, while I know exactly where Pat303 is coming from I don't have the coin to be a purist or sensible. When Landrover move on I have to follow. Ive said it before, I love Defenders but go nowhere a 2nd hand D4 with about 40000kms, a rugged set of tyres, and some floormats can't take me. If I have a the $ at the time a new Defender would be a treat regardless of the running gear. It'll be an auto too, shame on me.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Alas I'm not in the position to get a Puma before 2012 and freeze my beloved Tdi or even just trade up to a Puma. Getting dual batteries, aux tank, uhf, bull bar, tow bar etc for my Puma just to kit it out how my current car is would cost me how much? Nearly $70k? And I'd still be without vent flaps and a bonnet mount!

Nah, while I know exactly where Pat303 is coming from I don't have the coin to be a purist or sensible. When Landrover move on I have to follow. Ive said it before, I love Defenders but go nowhere a 2nd hand D4 with about 40000kms, a rugged set of tyres, and some floormats can't take me. If I have a the $ at the time a new Defender would be a treat regardless of the running gear. It'll be an auto too, shame on me.

Yeah... funny thing that. Our fender is a 2005. I always thought I would upgrade to whatever the last of the fenders was before the new shape.

However - like you say, with all the stuff we've added to it, and all the fettling that has been done over the years I kind of love it now more than I ever have. :)

I'm not sure I could justify the upgrade plus re-fitting all the bits we need. :)

[clean32]

probably a disco Ute on a 110 wheel base