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johnbmcgregor
22nd January 2010, 08:27 AM
Iam considering upgrading from D1 Td to a series 3. Looking at a 2005 model.
were there any major design proplems with this year model. Should i be looking at say 2006,2007. Diesel of petrol?
Appreciate any advise.
John

Neil P
22nd January 2010, 09:47 AM
I'd say buy a 4.0 petrol . ( Incoming ! Duck ! ) :lol2:

As for "year" , well that's a price point for you to decide
I don't know what's involved in getting a vehicle's repair
history from LRA . No doubt you will be helped by members
here ..... they're a good bunch ( usually ;) )

DiscoSaffa
22nd January 2010, 10:06 AM
I'd say buy a 4.0 petrol . ( Incoming ! Duck ! ) :lol2:

I am with you on this Neil........ *dodge*

John, the guys here will have plenty advice, on what to look for and what to avoid...... You won't regret buying a D3. There are also numerous threads out there already on this topic, so have a look at those….. I am a big fan of the petrol, but there are more fans out there of the diesel….. That choice, and that of year model will more than likely come down to price. :confused:

I believe there were some issues with the early D3s, but these should all have been sorted, I would be looking for evidence of this. If you are looking at an 05, it will more than likely be out of warranty, so look for evidence that a “pre-expiry” check, a lot of more knowledgeable owners will have had that done……..

At some point they changed the standard spec on the SE models, leather as standard and a few other things which makes a later model more desirable…….

Also look into an extended warranty….. the D3s are complex vehicles, and if things do go wrong it could be pricey (there is a recent thread debating this)…….

Being relatively new to D3s, I can’t tell you too much on the technical front, but no doubt others will jump in here!

CaverD3
22nd January 2010, 01:47 PM
Petrol 4.0 litre is OK 2.7 diesel is better but you pay more. V8 has the same fuel economy as the 4.0 litre and is more fun. :D

Get a leter model if you can afford in MY 07 onwards are better more of the old part numbers are gone.
Get one in warranty and go for the extended warranty (expensive but good insurance in case something major goes wrong)

101RRS
22nd January 2010, 01:53 PM
Coil spring models as standard are pretty ordinary off road due to average ground clearance - not much better than my Freelander.

So go the air suspension models or consider a bit of a lift for a D3 coiler.

Garry

Guss
22nd January 2010, 02:30 PM
if you want limited slip diff, make sure it's already fitted.

Also, buy a 7 seater, I believe the 5 seaters are harder to sell.

isuzurover
22nd January 2010, 02:41 PM
Don't the 2.7TD models need the body removed to replace the turbo?

If so - I would either stay away from that model or make sure the turbo is in A1 condition.

DiscoSaffa
22nd January 2010, 02:48 PM
Don't the 2.7TD models need the body removed to replace the turbo?

:eek: First I have heard of this, but I am no expert....... tis these sorts of things that make the extended warranty important.......

101RRS
22nd January 2010, 02:49 PM
Don't the 2.7TD models need the body removed to replace the turbo?

Removed from what? There is no separate chassis. Do you mean remove the engine to replace the turbo?

Garry

CaverD3
22nd January 2010, 05:03 PM
D3 has a composite chassis: a ladder chassis and the body has a monocoque chassis bolted together.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/516.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/01/517.jpg

You undo some connectors and lift one off the other. Not too difficult. But the dealers have worked out how to replace the turbo without lifting the body.

big guy
22nd January 2010, 06:16 PM
Yeah they remove the body and fit an Isuzu. NOT.

That was once mentioned by someone and the story made its rounds.
My mate had his turbo swapped over by Local dealer here and they undid body as in pictures above and cleaned whole drive train at same time.

That was an option though and did cost him extra because he is very fussy and did want the clean.

His turbo was faulty from factory was reason and no more was said.
His wife always said it sounded funny, we told her she was a woman and what did she know.
Well, she was right.

roverrescue
22nd January 2010, 06:42 PM
Tell me that is the dampers running INSIDE the rear air spring...
that is so cool and compact... a little OTT maybe and not overly "bush bodge-able" but it is a D3 so that makes it very cool. Makes geometry clean.

I want a pair on a trailer!!!

Steve

Tote
25th January 2010, 05:59 PM
*wonders how long before someone puts a defender body on a rolled D3 :twisted:

Regards,
Tote

meggsie
30th January 2010, 09:00 PM
Hi,
I recon if you can find a clean 05 or 06 V8 SE you will be doing fine.
I have a 2005 one and its fantastic. I just came back from a camping trip, sand driving and covered 1400km and got an trip average of 16.5lt /100kms.
This was with a car full of family and gear and towing an off road camper too.

Bushwanderer
1st February 2010, 02:22 PM
Yes, as (Garycol?) says, the factory-fitted LR springs are not suited for off-road. I quickly fitted the Kings Springs with amazing results.

I believe that Pedders also market a set now.

Best Wishes,
Peter