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Rangier Rover
16th February 2010, 07:54 AM
Have officially settled AYI 077 at approximately 6:30pm 15/02/10 and got it home 2AM on the 16/02/10.

It all traveled home well with the help of a car trailer.
The Rego ran out 4/02/10 so will have to sort the well being of the original number plates very soon! As covered here http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/97393-starting-thread-ayi-077-a.html



Mechanically appears in fair shape for its vintage. I'll take it for a run today to see how it behaves and have a listen for any issues before standing it down for the long haul.

The main concerns for a start will be to repair the chassis,lower door frames and bulk head firstly. Wile that goes along the diffs asys,brakes and steering can get fully overhauled if needed. The clutch feels horrible as most GMH conversions are:(

I'm still chasing up some info from the previous owner (overseas ATM) as they purchased it from the Leyland Brothers.

Tony

frantic
16th February 2010, 08:32 AM
Quick suggestion for the No. plates, get a high quality laser printed copy and laminate them then put the laminated copy inside a numberplate holder with a glass/ perspex cover and keep the originals inside your house. Former boss had HSV ### as his number plates and got sick off them being stolen so did this as it only cost him $5 to replace instead of the RTA rip off . This is not strictly legal but the cops could never tell and he was pulled over far more in his hsv than you would ever be in a landie!

Also talk to your accountant and see if you can write off your expenses/repairs and interest on the purchase as an investment?
You may never want to sell it but you could claim that your investment is increasing in value!:D

Fusion
16th February 2010, 10:33 AM
Nice one mate ! ....... one little thing tho .......










:rulez::bat: wheres the pics at my good man [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][tonguewink]

Rangier Rover
16th February 2010, 10:53 AM
Nice one mate ! ....... one little thing tho .......










:rulez::bat: wheres the pics at my good man [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][tonguewink]

Patience:mad::D
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22612&stc=1&d=1266281261

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22613&stc=1&d=1266281549

Rangier Rover
16th February 2010, 11:01 AM
Had a closer look in detail this morning and took it for a run. No horrible noises or vibrations and the GMH and gear box are sweet as. Clutch is nasty though:mad: Very sudden.

Ran it up to 55 mph and surprisingly pleasant to drive. steers OK and brakes work quite well.

The chassis has had some fairly ordinary work done over the years including the demise of the lift it had. It was chopped off and welded back on. Had plate welded over the bottom rails so has trapped moisture and rusted. Two of the out riggers are almost beyond it as well. All repairable or on the case of the out riggers replaceable.:) Has had a new rear X member recently.

Newbs-IIA
16th February 2010, 05:33 PM
Great find there mate, good to see someone is saving one of these iconic landrovers

What specs are you restoring it to?

Rangier Rover
17th February 2010, 07:56 AM
Great find there mate, good to see someone is saving one of these iconic landrovers

What specs are you restoring it to?

Firstly get it very mechanically roadworthy and deal with any structural rust.

As others have pointed out we have to be careful with restoration of this as can lose its appeal.

Hope to get it back to how they had it in the "off the beaten track" days.

Change the shackles and hangers back.

Get all the bar work back on.

Re-manufacture the water tanks in the front guards

Find the original bonnet or fit one with the spare tyre carrier.

Do the cut on the front guards as they had at on stage.
Fit the rear tyre carrier.

Try to find similar of exactly the same tyres.

A few other things I may have missed of don't know about yet.

The interior is a hard one to leave as is...
The upholstery really needs to be replaced.
Everything rubber has perished from age including door seals,window seals etc.
Some of the aftermarket gauges are buggered so may have to renew the lot.
Rust in the door frames, Window channels, bulk head and front foot wells so once all repaired we are going to have to respray it unfortunately.


I will put some pics together soon that will help describe its current condition more accurately.

The ho har's
17th February 2010, 09:28 AM
and very important is to add it to your signature;)


Mrs hh:angel:

Rangier Rover
17th February 2010, 09:55 AM
and very important is to add it to your signature;)


Mrs hh:angel:
Yes, I do need to tidy the signature up a little:) Or just put something in that another member has quoted:lol2:

I'm going to have to document my collection as will loose count soon:eek:

101RRS
17th February 2010, 10:24 AM
Are we going to get to see some pics of it - rather than the ones already up that have it in the dark or hiding behind your Defender? :)

Garry

Rangier Rover
17th February 2010, 10:34 AM
Are we going to get to see some pics of it - rather than the ones already up that have it in the dark or hiding behind your Defender? :)

Garry
Absolutely:) I just didn't want to spoil the mystery to soon that's all:)
I have a lot of pics here. Just have to sort them out a bit so are relevant.
As I come and go today we'll see what happens:)

Lotz-A-Landies
17th February 2010, 10:43 AM
Had a closer look in detail this morning and took it for a run. No horrible noises or vibrations and the GMH and gear box are sweet as. Clutch is nasty though:mad: Very sudden. ...<snip>.Holden type clutches are a nightmare, however you can fix it! :)

Get a "Borg and Beck" pressure plate from a TE20 Ferguson tractor or Vangard Velox also get a Land Rover OEM "Borg and Beck" pressure plate for a series Landy. Have the internals from the Landy pressure plate installed and set-up into the TE20 housing. The TE20 housing bolts directly to the OEM Holden flywheel and then you will have a Holden engine with the clutch "feel" of the standard Land Rover. :BigThumb:

Rangier Rover
17th February 2010, 11:13 AM
We'll see how this goes... I've used paint to put images together otherwise over time the pics will get very resource hungry:eek:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22649&stc=1&d=1266369085
If this works OK I will continue to do so:)



In its former glory
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22650&stc=1&d=1266369127



Edit... Looks OK to me. I'll put some together of the interior, Structural problems and other smaller details soon.
Tony

Basil135
17th February 2010, 11:21 AM
Looks good from this end too... :)

Looking forward to the rest

Rangier Rover
17th February 2010, 02:56 PM
I would invite anyone to come forward with any pics or info from books etc. Some of you must have them:confused:
Every small bit of information will help this cause from here:)

Tony

bigcarle
18th February 2010, 05:01 PM
cooool:D glad to see it starting its new life
i have a couple of photos from the book my life as a leyland brother by mike leyland. is that where you got the photo in the previous post from?;)

101RRS
18th February 2010, 05:26 PM
I would invite anyone to come forward with any pics or info from books etc. Some of you must have them:confused:
Every small bit of information will help this cause from here:)

Tony

Why not write to Mal Leyland and ask him?

Garry

Lotz-A-Landies
18th February 2010, 05:37 PM
Why not write to Mal Leyland and ask him?

GarryFar better than writing to Mike Leyland, who recently hasn't been replying to any letters, emails or phone calls. (Vale: Mike Leyland 1941-2009)

Jeff
18th February 2010, 05:46 PM
I have the book Discovering Australia, by the Leyland Brothers with some pictures. I don't have a scanner but will try to get access to one.

I remember at primary school the library had Off The Beaten Track, Further Off the Beaten Track and Leyland Brothers' Australia , these were longer versions of the same with lots more pictures of the Land Rovers used in the Off the Beaten Track TV series. I used to borrow these a lot:D. They also had books of the Trekabout series, when they used lesser vehicles, I didn't borrow these as much:unsure:. I remember Mike and Mal came to the school once with a film called Kerry's Animal Roundup, so maybe they donated the books to the school library then.

Jeff

:rocket:

Sleepy
18th February 2010, 07:28 PM
Glad to see you got her home alright RR. Looking forward to the progress.

I'd be so tempted to get some wet-n-dry onto those doors to see if the LB logo is still there.

Had any luck tracking that episode down ?

mike 90 RR
18th February 2010, 08:02 PM
I have the book ... Leyland Brothers with some pictures. I don't have a scanner

Just take a "Digital photo" and load it up that way .... put the Camera setting on "Macro"

Rangier Rover
18th February 2010, 08:51 PM
Why not write to Mal Leyland and ask him?

Garry Working towards:) I just have to be very careful how I go about this. I really need a second contact that knows Mal very well so things go smoothly.:)


I'm also currently working on channel 7 via a mates contact so should get a positive response.

Rangier Rover
18th February 2010, 09:22 PM
Glad to see you got her home alright RR. Looking forward to the progress.

Traveled home really well on the trailer.... Would have driven home on its own steam no worries. Mechanically very sound for its age. The past owner has put a lot of effort into the running gear. Be the best 2a Ive ever driven other than the clutch:mad: Would have been a nice vehicle in its days as fully was optioned with trim etc.


I'd be so tempted to get some wet-n-dry onto those doors to see if the LB logo is still there.
The recent paint will all have to come off so will be done with a lot of care.:) I cant pick it with light angles so may have been feathered back. It's just toooo straight:eek:

On this subject I have a Kiwi mate who has a lot of experience in this type of restoration... He also agrees we need to get this thing back to its period and age the paint and trim to this current day and save anything that's within the time scene + reproduce the bits that were custom made at a given time. Can be done with expertise. I've seen his work and is good:cool: Just got to entice him into this some how:eek: He is very interested so that's a start:)


Had any luck tracking that episode down ?
Yes, a good member here has captured most of it and is very kindly making a DVD.:)

Sleepy
18th February 2010, 09:40 PM
I have a Kiwi mate.....Just got to entice him into this some how
Hmmm.....has it got sheepskin seat covers:wasntme:

Rangier Rover
18th February 2010, 09:49 PM
Hmmm.....has it got sheepskin seat covers:wasntme:

:lol2::lol2: It has!:eek: I'm about to throw the wellies in!:twisted:

Rangier Rover
18th February 2010, 11:03 PM
I would like to reproduce it similar to the pic below. Have both sets of tyres with it when on show as was run with either.
Any one recognise the boat? We need to find one the same:) Then the other gear.... camera etc. Be great to replicate most of what they had in the 70's.

I have just purchased two books (Off the beaten Track and Further off the beaten Track) that will now live with the vehicle as should add to its appeal.


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22712&stc=1&d=1266498160

Tony

Sleepy
19th February 2010, 09:30 AM
Those tyres were huge, and watching that episode (Trek to the Tip) I don't think Mike and Mal were all that impressed. I recall they made the comment they reverted to Light Truck tyres later, due to the high number of punctures.
You'd need arms like popeye too.:o:D
The guards looked very similar to the Mil cut guards - maybe you could source a couple of mil outers?
They certainly liked loading their vehicles up.:eek:

wander
19th February 2010, 11:28 AM
Nice project watching progress with interest,if dvd is available at some time i would be interested in purchasing one.

mrapocalypse
19th February 2010, 11:59 AM
Gidday,

That camera looks to me like a 16mm Arriflex ST with an Angenieux 25-250mm lens on a Miller Wooden Leg 100mm bowl tripod.

Angenieux 25-250mm f/3.2 Type 10 x 25 T2 Movie Lens - eBay, Lenses, Photographic Accessories, Cameras. (end time 25-Feb-10 15:15:35 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Angenieux-25-250mm-f-3-2-Type-10-x-25-T2-Movie-Lens_W0QQitemZ290404080111QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ca meras_Photographic_Accessories?hash=item439d6e99ef #ht_500wt_1182)

ARRIFLEX 16 ST 16MM MOVIE CAMERA 3 SCHNEIDER LENSES - eBay By Type, Cameras, Vintage Movie Photography, Cameras Photo. (end time 13-Mar-10 10:33:23 AEDST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ARRIFLEX-16-ST-16MM-MOVIE-CAMERA-3-SCHNEIDER-LENSES_W0QQitemZ280437927140QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414b672ce4#ht_524wt_1167)

Still sort after gear so it might cost you to get a kit together.

"Ask The Rangier Rover" has a nice ring to it. 16mm film is an expensive but romantic way to make Docos! :-)

Cheers

Ian

Rangier Rover
19th February 2010, 12:45 PM
This should give you an idea of what the interior looks like now. Would have been nice in its days.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
So hard to know what is best to do here. Some of it is a bit far gone to leave the way it is I think.
Most of the doors need repairs for rust so will have to dismantle the door trims either way.

Landy Smurf
19th February 2010, 03:26 PM
personally i think you wanna return it to the way it was so that means replacing them then do so

Rangier Rover
19th February 2010, 03:34 PM
I lot do do here.:(
The spring hangers all have been cut off and drilled or welded back on to lower it down.
Rust is mostly in the back rails and two of the out riggers.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22729&stc=1&d=1266557590

Rangier Rover
19th February 2010, 03:43 PM
On a hole its very straight. Too straight in fact. Will find a lot of filler under that paint. Has had a respray or two over the years.

The bulkhead,foot wells and doors will need repairing as has the odd rust hole or bits missing. Will have to lift the skins off the doors to do a good job.

All the seals and window channels will need replacing one all done.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22730&stc=1&d=1266558117

See the power outlets on the lower image.

AYI077
19th February 2010, 05:46 PM
Very happy to read you are reconditioning our old girl! This has been our family car ( old Aunty) for the last 38 years. Know every hole interior and exterior and how they got there ha ha! Had some awesome adventures in her, learnt to drive in her and drove her all thru my twenties, never let me down :)) Was very sad to see her finally leave our family. Good luck with the reco, would definately love a dvd of the job. Thanks for saving her from the scrap heap! :)) PS got lots of pictures of her life with us...prob could get u copies..

The ho har's
19th February 2010, 06:12 PM
Very happy to read you are reconditioning our old girl! This has been our family car ( old Aunty) for the last 38 years. Know every hole interior and exterior and how they got there ha ha! Had some awesome adventures in her, learnt to drive in her and drove her all thru my twenties, never let me down :)) Was very sad to see her finally leave our family. Good luck with the reco, would definately love a dvd of the job. Thanks for saving her from the scrap heap! :)) PS got lots of pictures of her life with us...prob could get u copies..

and thankyou for looking after her for 38 years....and a big welcome to the forum:D

AYI077
19th February 2010, 07:43 PM
and thankyou for looking after her for 38 years....and a big welcome to the forum:D

Thanks! We can now watch her progress to her former glory:) My Father has done all of her regular mechanical upkeep and kept her moving along for so long!

Rangier Rover
19th February 2010, 07:48 PM
Very happy to read you are reconditioning our old girl! This has been our family car ( old Aunty) for the last 38 years. Know every hole interior and exterior and how they got there ha ha! Had some awesome adventures in her, learnt to drive in her and drove her all thru my twenties, never let me down :)) Was very sad to see her finally leave our family. Good luck with the reco, would definately love a dvd of the job. Thanks for saving her from the scrap heap! :)) PS got lots of pictures of her life with us...prob could get u copies..

I got your PM:) And a big welcome to the forum! I have a feeling this will all be watched very closely by some of the boys at ALL four X 4 as they're aware I kick around here a bit;)
Feel free to add any comments or thoughts here any time. Any history or pics of AYI 077 would be great. I'm thankful they contacted you as I asked a few times.

Tell me this.... Was that clutch always vicious like it is now:eek: I don't know know you ever drove it in heavy traffic:o
I had a bit of fun running her up onto the trailer as the engine was cold.:lol2:

Cheers Tony

Rangier Rover
19th February 2010, 07:58 PM
Thanks! We can now watch her progress to her former glory:) My Father has done all of her regular mechanical upkeep and kept her moving along for so long!
He has done a very good job of that. It actually still drives very well!

AYI077
19th February 2010, 08:11 PM
Thanks! I'm the keen daughter whos joined the forum and loved our AYI077 but I reckon my Dad, whos maintained AYI for the past 38 years will be pretty keen to tune into the forum from time to time to watch your progress :) The blokes from All 4 apparently did contact him to see if he had any more orig gear off the ol girl he he..He drove her 5 days a week, about 30 kms a day to work ever since I can remember, and yes, this includes the heavy traffic in peak hour! :))
Hopefully I'll get him on the forum soon and you will be able to chat with the holder of AYI077 mechanical secrets direct!

Rangier Rover
19th February 2010, 08:21 PM
Such a small world some times:) I'll be in real trouble if Mal finds this as well:lol2:

Will be an interesting venture as we go along:)

Tony

AYI077
19th February 2010, 08:44 PM
Ha Ha Yeah! Just sent you back a reply PM but don't know if it worked! It is a small world, quite by accident one year I stayed at Mal's B&B he was running ( still is???) at Glen Innes. Was bizaare, looking at OUR car on HIS walls..he also had a coffee van business...

The ho har's
19th February 2010, 09:11 PM
Ha Ha Yeah! Just sent you back a reply PM but don't know if it worked! It is a small world, quite by accident one year I stayed at Mal's B&B he was running ( still is???) at Glen Innes. Was bizaare, looking at OUR car on HIS walls..he also had a coffee van business...

oh another female on this site...GREAT news:D
Mrs hh:angel:

AYI sister
19th February 2010, 10:16 PM
hi everyone and lovers of AYI077! im the OTHER daughter who learnt to drive her and drove in peak hour traffic! Number one: never take your eye off the road as you need to know what is happening well in advance,the steering is NOT sensitive! Number two: careful with the choke on cold days! I remember finishing work at 3AM in the winter and id be the LAST one in the carpark,me and ayi trying to start!Number three: balance that clutch or she'll kick like a horse and you will stall,on that hill,in peak hour traffic!! ha ha :odad is responsiblefor her going so well for so long!

THANKYOU FOR GIVING HER HER NEW LEASE OF LIFE! It was a sad day when we dropped her off to the parts place,mum was going to a funeral that day and i remember her saying it was like going to 2 funerals! we had a family photo with AYI, our defender and brand new landy the day we gave her up.Good luck with her restoration,we will be keeping watch :)give her a pat for me;)

The ho har's
19th February 2010, 10:49 PM
and another comes out of the woods:D...please post regularly girls as we are few and far between;)

Mrs hh:angel:

AYI077
20th February 2010, 06:33 AM
No prob Mrs hh! There are other landy loving females!:p

Rangier Rover
20th February 2010, 08:13 AM
hi everyone and lovers of AYI077! im the OTHER daughter who learnt to drive her and drove in peak hour traffic! Number one: never take your eye off the road as you need to know what is happening well in advance,the steering is NOT sensitive! Number two: careful with the choke on cold days! I remember finishing work at 3AM in the winter and id be the LAST one in the carpark,me and ayi trying to start!Number three: balance that clutch or she'll kick like a horse and you will stall,on that hill,in peak hour traffic!! ha ha :odad is responsiblefor her going so well for so long!

THANKYOU FOR GIVING HER HER NEW LEASE OF LIFE! It was a sad day when we dropped her off to the parts place,mum was going to a funeral that day and i remember her saying it was like going to 2 funerals! we had a family photo with AYI, our defender and brand new landy the day we gave her up.Good luck with her restoration,we will be keeping watch :)give her a pat for me;)

Hi! And a big welcome to you as well:) How many more of you are going to pop up out of the woods:lol2:

You have described the clutch very well. :clap2:

Just been out to the the old girl this morning and now seems to have a living soul attached. If she could only talk!

With your new user names I'll have to stop referring to the Series 11a as AYI 077 or AYI or we will have some un politically correct confusion occur at some stage.:lol2:
Just been down to see AYI and well you get the idea:D
I'll be mindful of this but please forgive me if I miss something:eek:

Tony

AYI sister
20th February 2010, 11:45 AM
hi RR,

yeah sorry bout my sister and mines post names...we just got all excited when we'd finally found her and HAD to have her name as we identify all our lives but one year with her!!:p

we called her the old girl too so its nice she mite feel at home with you:)
she has many stories including the bonnet story which i think i read you had mentioned...one year,not long after we got her i guess, dad traded the bonnet..he didnt want the wheel clamp thing and the other bloke did so they traded! goodluck finding that! as far as we are concerned the green bonnet just gave her a personality all of her own whenever id pass dad wrangling her through traffic (we worked in the same part of town) id grin at her and her funny look ha ha.

we have told dad about her new life and are hoping he will show an interest but it was a hard day for him when she went and the topic is a happy but sore one for him as you can imagine. its great she isnt on a scrapheap but im sure he would have loved to have restored her himself one day:(..landies... theyre like tin people to owners:)

luck to you:)

groucho
20th February 2010, 02:31 PM
R/R
I'll start the ball rolling. Will donate 2 good 109 front outriggers. They came off a S/3 should be the same,
2 inner splash guards. New. If you want 2 LWB rear springs.
May have a 2A grille somewhere.
See if we can organise a pony express from my joint to your place
Anybody else going to kick the can........Mark







https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/274.jpg

Sleepy
20th February 2010, 02:59 PM
Onya Groucho! :BigThumb:

Tony, when you work it out, post up a list of what else you need. I am sure many of us would love to help.:ohyes:
Even if it just transporting or picking up stuff for you.

lane
20th February 2010, 04:35 PM
yeah sorry bout my sister and mines post names...

Well, it's certainly understandable that you didn't choose "The Leyland Brothers' Landy Sisters." :)

Hang on LBLS1 and LBLS2 would work... :o

And that would make your new Landy "The Leyland Brothers' Landy Sisters' Landy." I think. :cool:

Rangier Rover
20th February 2010, 07:04 PM
hi RR,

yeah sorry bout my sister and mines post names...we just got all excited when we'd finally found her and HAD to have her name as we identify all our lives but one year with her!!:p
One year with her.:confused: So was she your daily drive in the end?
I can promise you will all see her again and If you ask nicely very soon!.


we called her the old girl too so its nice she mite feel at home with you:)
she has many stories including the bonnet story which i think i read you had mentioned...one year,not long after we got her i guess, dad traded the bonnet..he didn't want the wheel clamp thing and the other bloke did so they traded! goodluck finding that! as far as we are concerned the green bonnet just gave her a personality all of her own whenever id pass dad wrangling her through traffic (we worked in the same part of town) id grin at her and her funny look ha ha.
I really need to change the bonnet and a few other very minor things back. Hope you don't mind:angel:
I have know resigned to the fact I have very little chance of tracking down the old parts:( That's OK we'll reproduce them as accurately as possible.
I have picked up you called her the old girl so that will stick although I have a few here now:eek: She will be known as AYI for clarification.

we have told dad about her new life and are hoping he will show an interest but it was a hard day for him when she went and the topic is a happy but sore one for him as you can imagine. its great she isn't on a scrapheap but I'm sure he would have loved to have restored her himself one day:(..landies... they're like tin people to owners:)

luck to you:)
I feel for all of you as 38 years is a long time and all the families memories would be attached to her. Let alone all the time your dad has put into keeping her going so well.

I intend to keep as much original as possible to retain its authentic feel.

Tony

AYI sister
20th February 2010, 07:06 PM
lane,

good idea ha ha like your work!:D

AYI sister
20th February 2010, 07:27 PM
hi RR,

thankyou for putting up with a bunch of softies like us! from reading all the posts here its plain that from the start she was always going to have a lovely retirement so thankyou again and yes we;d love to see her once and again...she wasnt OUR daily drive but she WAS dads right up til the day she arrived at kotara so he's pretty in tune with her. when i asked if i could have one last drive and he said not a good idea i knew she was pretty brittle or should i say cantankerous in the end so you really must have your work cut out:(

i see you are near Merriwah..in the 70's&80's we'd twice a year make the trip to Lightning Ridge to our holiday place in the opal fields so she's used to big trips to the bush!one year we were driving there & going down a hill when the bonnet unexpectedly flew up!! dad couldnt see a thing and had to pull off,head out the window:Danother trip there was a sudden fire between the front seats!!
we were born AFTER the landy in 72 which is why we had all but one year with her..
anyway hope she behaves well for you.its interesting to find where her brother is by the way.And we once visited the Leyland Bros theme park they had and one of the brothers came out and we almost had to point out what he was standing in front of.When he saw her he says"ha!its the old landy!" but no more talk! a little bit of a let down gotta admit ha ha:o

ill try get out of dad who he traded the bonnet with..
by for now.

Rangier Rover
20th February 2010, 08:46 PM
hi RR,

thankyou for putting up with a bunch of softies like us! from reading all the posts here its plain that from the start she was always going to have a lovely retirement so thankyou again and yes we;d love to see her once and again...she wasnt OUR daily drive but she WAS dads right up til the day she arrived at kotara so he's pretty in tune with her. when i asked if i could have one last drive and he said not a good idea i knew she was pretty brittle or should i say cantankerous in the end so you really must have your work cut out:(

Bit or rigamortis has set in. Be OK unless you got rear ended:eek: Has to be fixed! If you want a last drive PM me and can be arranged in a very controlled environment. In respect your Dad was very sensible as she's not really roadworthy ATM.


i see you are near Merriwah..in the 70's&80's we'd twice a year make the trip to Lightning Ridge to our holiday place in the opal fields so she's used to big trips to the bush!one year we were driving there & going down a hill when the bonnet unexpectedly flew up!! dad couldnt see a thing and had to pull off,head out the window:Danother trip there was a sudden fire between the front seats!!
we were born AFTER the landy in 72 which is why we had all but one year with her..
anyway hope she behaves well for you.
The Ridge... Had some good friends up there that were opal miners. Sure is an amazing place to visit. Can be hot and dry though:eek:
Don't worry about the bonnet and eleco fire... Wile I was on Morton Island a 94 Defender did the same:D



its interesting to find where her brother is by the way.And we once visited the Leyland Bros theme park they had and one of the brothers came out and we almost had to point out what he was standing in front of.When he saw her he says"ha!its the old landy!" but no more talk! a little bit of a let down gotta admit ha ha:o
That worries me a bit although I can understand why they may have reacted that way initially. I do intend to try contacting Mal but being very careful doing so.


ill try get out of dad who he traded the bonnet with..
by for now.
Be great but we have a slim chance of tracking it down after all these years I would imagine.



The second vehicle is AYI's older brother now in the museum.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22767&stc=1&d=1266660799



Tony

Jeff
20th February 2010, 09:00 PM
I think you are referring to AYI 566, the table top from the Off the Beaten Track series. The one they winched across the Jardine River to drive to The Tip. Is the Jardine salt? The chassis on that one may be well gone by now.

The ones used in the West-East crossing are much earlier, the 107 wagon is in a museum. Pics are on AULRO somewhere.

Jeff

:rocket:

Rangier Rover
20th February 2010, 09:12 PM
I think you are referring to AYI 566, the table top from the Off the Beaten Track series. The one they winched across the Jardine River to drive to The Tip. Is the Jardine salt? The chassis on that one may be well gone by now.

The ones used in the West-East crossing are much earlier, the 107 wagon is in a museum. Pics are on AULRO somewhere.

Jeff

:rocket:
She was refuring to AYI 566 may be... My bad/
I have the pics here of the 107 the Museum where AYI should be.;)
The table top is long gone...I have tried to find it infact (Or some of it), but no joy yet
I refer the 107 as being AYI's brother now as many
others do.
As far as I know these are the last two in existence:eek: Time will tell I guess:)

LandyAndy
20th February 2010, 09:34 PM
Tony,did you end up setting up an account that we can donate into???
Sorry if I missed it,Im sure plenty of us will support the cause.
Andrew

Rangier Rover
20th February 2010, 10:38 PM
Tony,did you end up setting up an account that we can donate into???
Sorry if I missed it,Im sure plenty of us will support the cause.
Andrew

Thanks Andrew, very awkward to do this fairly although I'm working on the best way to go about it. This as I've posted before will be a very tender topic with some understandably.
We may need a President, Treasurer etc:eek:

I'm most grateful for the support (Even if moral)from our members here so far:)

Tony

AYI sister
21st February 2010, 07:31 AM
thanks for the offer of a drive..it would be nice but im staying out of her... i wouldnt want to risk her or my life or others!
ta also for the pics!..you are all right i was talking about 566..i thought that one was the brother:oand it was the one in the museum!

i think the leylands had alot on their mind when we half offered them their landy back for their theme park and seemed uninterested...the park closed not long after so bad timing i think.im sure in time when the death of his brother and money troubles are in the past he may like to visit his past as i imagine he has some fond memories.

we have a 93 defender.cant believe they behave like the oldies too!
luck to you :D

Sparksdisco
21st February 2010, 11:38 AM
Thanks Andrew, very awkward to do this fairly although I'm working on the best way to go about it. This as I've posted before will be a very tender topic with some understandably.
We may need a President, Treasurer etc:eek:

I'm most grateful for the support (Even if moral)from our members here so far:)

Tony

Mabee you should set up a not profit orginisation and set it up like a club you could then form sub commities who could be in chage of funding, restoration and historical intrest. Im sure a lot of people would join you in your struggles and it could help you from trying to do it all yourself.

Just a thought

Sleepy
21st February 2010, 11:58 AM
Having been treasure of a small Ham Radio Club (70 members), juggling money can be a PITA. (Not mention GST exemptions, audits, :eek: etc) Not saying don't do it but we probably want RR to concentrate on the restoration;).

I would think if you approached it as:


Offers of bits. (There are a lot of sheds with bits a peices, just waiting to be offered - as per Groucho's fine offer)
Offers of skill (eg: Welders, Electrickeryests , Body, Paint, Spanner spinners) Surprising what a few coldies and burnt snags can achieve.:D
Logistics - getting all these bits to Tony - aulro courier service?

I would reckon we could help get it repaired without too many $$$ changing hands.

Anyway it's Tony's vehicle and his call - just offering ideas.

Rangier Rover
21st February 2010, 01:40 PM
Having been treasure of a small Ham Radio Club (70 members), juggling money can be a PITA. (Not mention GST exemptions, audits, :eek: etc) Not saying don't do it but we probably want RR to concentrate on the restoration;).

I would think if you approached it as:


Offers of bits. (There are a lot of sheds with bits a peices, just waiting to be offered - as per Groucho's fine offer)
Offers of skill (eg: Welders, Electrickeryests , Body, Paint, Spanner spinners) Surprising what a few coldies and burnt snags can achieve.:D
Logistics - getting all these bits to Tony - aulro courier service?

I would reckon we could help get it repaired without too many $$$ changing hands.

Anyway it's Tony's vehicle and his call - just offering ideas.

So hard:( I see every ones point of view on this matter. The restoration will work with little funds but the Rego and ongoing cost after that are going to be a real problem. I'd like to see her back on the road and taken by trusted members other than my self show to show so the public can appreciate her.

Back on track of the resto... Its the new parts we need that will be a little costly... Baily channels, seals, Brake parts oil seals etc.

My location will make it hard for any one who wants to help out with the labour side of things.

Once I get these books and some film footage the chassis,Bulk head and doors are first jobs. Just thinking the doors could be couriered to anyone who has the skills to repair them as will be a bit fiddly:) That will leave me the chassis and bulk head to repair.

I'll make a more accurate list shortly

Tony

LandyAndy
21st February 2010, 08:01 PM
Tony
Another idea.
If you could get a parts supplier onside,ie Rovercraft etc etc.You could give them your wish list for parts needed.Get a total price they will let you have them for.
Say the bill is $1000.
You could list the invoice number and members could chip in to help cover whats needed by sending money to the supplier,you get the balance owing if any.
Vehicle still remains wholy yours,just a way we get to help you preserve it.
A couple of other ideas.
A working bee weekend on a long weekend.
Inventory of GOOD secondhand parts you would like.
GOODLUCK
Andrew

Shonky
24th February 2010, 09:33 AM
Wow! :D

Top stuff Tony. Have just got back from O/S and my have you been busy! Glad the pickup went smoothly. :)

All okay for storage?

Rangier Rover
24th February 2010, 10:04 AM
Wow! :D

Top stuff Tony. Have just got back from O/S and my have you been busy! Glad the pickup went smoothly. :)

All okay for storage? I'm working on a community shed nearby. I'll fill you all in on this if it works out.:)
If this all goes sour not sure what I'll do yet:confused: I'll keep your idea in mind Shonky:) One thing for sure is It cant stay here for to long as to much going on in the workplace and sheds here ATM:(

As posted the trip was OK but a long day. Was going to do a detailed post but never got around to it. A few other things happened along the way:eek:

Good the hear your back safely:)

Cheers Tony

kaa45
24th February 2010, 11:26 AM
Anyone think to ask Inc's advice re: setting up donations....he has it for the forum (which he owns). He must know how to organize it and the problems involved. Be good to get some ideas from him.

Ownership should stay with RR as when committees get involved politics soon follows (other people have other ideas). Keep it simple...keep it private, with supporters.

Danny ;)

Rangier Rover
24th February 2010, 08:12 PM
One book has arrived! In great nic and an original.

I'm having a hard time getting my hands on the films though:(

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Jeff
24th February 2010, 08:22 PM
Nice table cloth!

That book is one of three. The one I have is the condensed version of the three, with a lot less pictures of Land Rovers unfortunately.

Jeff

:rocket:

Rangier Rover
24th February 2010, 08:35 PM
[QUOTE=Jeff;1189828]Nice table cloth!

:wasntme: Kids love it!



That book is one of three. One of three? I only know of one other.... Further off the beaten Track. It should be here friday.



The one I have is the condensed version of the three, with a lot less pictures of Land Rovers unfortunately.


Could you tell me what is the third book? I must find it:angel:

Just noticed your location... Nice spot that. My in laws live near there so we come and visit often. Seen a few landys in the area.:)

Sleepy
24th February 2010, 08:56 PM
You got a good shot of the Logo there Tony, a good sign-writer should be able to replicate it.


I'm having a hard time getting my hands on the films though

I know a bloke at work, who used to work as a cameraman at a couple of TV channels in Melb - I wonder if he can give us a lead. (I'll buy him a coffee!):angel:

Jeff
24th February 2010, 09:00 PM
The third book is called Leyland Brothers' Australia, I believe. I remember it from about thirty years ago so it might not be part of the series, but I think it is. It had the later trips when they didn't have the big tyres. The one I have now is Discovering Australia.
Jeff

:rocket:

The ho har's
25th February 2010, 10:15 AM
You got a good shot of the Logo there Tony, a good sign-writer should be able to replicate it.

I know a bloke at work, who used to work as a cameraman at a couple of TV channels in Melb - I wonder if he can give us a lead. (I'll buy him a coffee!):angel:

signs/logo's aren't a problem around here;) just need a good pic and some dimensions would be good...


Mrs hh:angel:

Rangier Rover
25th February 2010, 11:30 AM
A good friend of mine has carefully made contact with Mal for me.
In respect for Mal and his family I wont post any details etc with out permission at this stage. The main thing is Mal is very interested in the fact AYI 077 has been saved and is happy to talk about her. She was in fact Mike's Landy so is a sensitive topic.
I'm about to write Mal a letter and send some photos etc.
I'm also hopeful of tracing AYI566 (Mal's Landy)or any remains of it. Will depend on the chain of contacts.

I like a lot of you am amazed how it all came to an end:( I think a lot can still be done to bring the Leylands back to light. Even if another book was produced covering their entire life to this current day in detail.


I have also been in contact with AYI 077's last owner who has done a fabulous job of keeping her as original as possible and in good mechanical condition. Seems a bit unfair refering her to being the Leyland brothers as the last owners had her for so long:( All part of her history so If they are happy I will document it all during the restoration.
Infact very little has been changed cosmetically or mechanically other than the usual wear and tear. One lay shaft in the gear box in 1976 being the only major thing to speak of other than a few GMH 186's:eek:
The bonnet was changed as the original had a well that used to collect water and conveniently drain it onto the fan with interesting results! Lots of other small details that we'll cover latter on:)

Tony.

Redback
25th February 2010, 11:32 AM
This should give you an idea of what the interior looks like now. Would have been nice in its days.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22728&stc=1&d=1266547396
So hard to know what is best to do here. Some of it is a bit far gone to leave the way it is I think.
Most of the doors need repairs for rust so will have to dismantle the door trims either way.


R/R
I'll start the ball rolling. Will donate 2 good 109 front outriggers. They came off a S/3 should be the same,
2 inner splash guards. New. If you want 2 LWB rear springs.
May have a 2A grille somewhere.
See if we can organise a pony express from my joint to your place
Anybody else going to kick the can........Mark







https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/02/274.jpg

I'm in Helensburgh, if you can get this to my place or if you not that far away, I can get it to Sydney or further if I have the time.

Baz.

fraser130
25th February 2010, 11:34 AM
One book has arrived! In great nic and an original.

I'm having a hard time getting my hands on the films though:(

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22881&stc=1&d=1267005446

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22882&stc=1&d=1267005613

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=22883&stc=1&d=1267006090

So sorry RR,
I have just cut the ads out and burned it to DVD.
Will post tomorrow as I have a job interview I need to get ready for.......
As I said earlier the start is missing, but there is some great footage of the Landies in it!

Cheers,
Fraser

subasurf
25th February 2010, 03:58 PM
:o
Send me a copy!!!! hahahha.

Sleepy
25th February 2010, 06:18 PM
Fantastic news Tony. I am glad Mal is happy about your saving his brothers vehicle. He must have many great memories. Your right though, it all came to a sudden end in the 80's.
I think we were a little ashamed of our aussieness in the 80's. In the late 60's and 70's there were a number of Aussie naturewalkabout type shows on TV. Suddenly in the 80's we were so interested in being like America that we hid a "dorky" past and let Paul Hogan represent everything aussie.

Sleepy
25th February 2010, 06:28 PM
signs/logo's aren't a problem around here;)
Sounds like another offer;)

Rangier Rover
25th February 2010, 07:28 PM
So sorry RR,
I have just cut the ads out and burned it to DVD.
Will post tomorrow as I have a job interview I need to get ready for.......
As I said earlier the start is missing, but there is some great footage of the Landies in it!

Cheers,
Fraser
Don't be sorry, I damn thankful you have some of it in captivity! Plenty of time yet.:)
If its not to late good luck with the interview:)

Tony

Rangier Rover
25th February 2010, 07:29 PM
Sounds like another offer;)

Would be nice:cool::cool:

The ho har's
25th February 2010, 07:55 PM
Sounds like another offer;)


Would be nice:cool::cool:

not a problem and since hh's boss knows Mal personally I wouldn't be surprised if he did the original signage....way back then;)

Mrs hh:angel:

Sleepy
25th February 2010, 08:33 PM
not a problem and since hh's boss knows Mal personally I wouldn't be surprised if he did the original signage....way back then;)

Mrs hh:angel:

Wow - that would be :cool:

Rangier Rover
26th February 2010, 11:33 AM
I'm on my way to the RTA to sort out a solution for these number plates:eek: I know one thing.... They're not getting their hands on them if I can help it.
I may have to transfer them onto the 120" for a wile in the worst case scenario.:)

subasurf
26th February 2010, 12:12 PM
Just read through this thread from start to finish. Sound like this car is the epitome of what Land Rovers are all about. So many feelings, emotion and history all packed into to one simple vehicle. Bloody love it.

RR, you really are a legend mate. I'm really happy that someone like you has got a hold of this vehicle. I know you'll do a good job 'restoring' her and that you have the right mindset about not butchering her and restoring her to brand new. It's lovely.

Anyhoo, I use to do documentaries and such for SBS so if you ever decide to film what you're doing and want to make a short mini doco about it, gimme a yell. More than happy to contribute somehow.
Cheers :)

Mick_Marsh
26th February 2010, 12:21 PM
Just read through this thread from start to finish. Sound like this car is the epitome of what Land Rovers are all about. So many feelings, emotion and history all packed into to one simple vehicle. Bloody love it.

RR, you really are a legend mate. I'm really happy that someone like you has got a hold of this vehicle. I know you'll do a good job 'restoring' her and that you have the right mindset about not butchering her and restoring her to brand new. It's lovely.

Anyhoo, I use to do documentaries and such for SBS so if you ever decide to film what you're doing and want to make a short mini doco about it, gimme a yell. More than happy to contribute somehow.
Cheers :)

Now that would be good.

Cover the restoration and try to find the others.

You'd probably get an hour show out of it if you included the other Leyland Brother Landrovers how they were used and background info of the early Leyland Brother expeditions.
I'd even buy the DVD.

regards
Mick

fraser130
26th February 2010, 06:00 PM
Don't be sorry, I damn thankful you have some of it in captivity! Plenty of time yet.:)
If its not to late good luck with the interview:)

Tony

Tony, guess what??
I POSTED IT TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy, you'll love it, there's even a repair they attempt that happened to me years ago up at Mount Beauty and we ended up doing the same thing they did.

I love the interior shots you have above, my S11a Dormobile had the same door trims and handles, I'd forgotten how they looked.

It's a great thing you are doing.

Fraser

Edit: I think I got the job, there was a message on the phone this evening from the principal of the school that I applied at, I'm guessing he wants to talk money, start date etc......
More money comming for my favorite money pit.......

subasurf
26th February 2010, 07:22 PM
I think I got the job.

Me too! hahah, I'm currently self employed but got offered a fulltime position today. Got selected out of over 300 applicants. yeeew!

Also, any chance of getting a copy of the DVD too? hahahah happy to cover costs :D Maybe we should compress it into an appropriate video file and host it. Or even break it up and post in on youtube :cool:

fraser130
26th February 2010, 07:35 PM
Me too! hahah, I'm currently self employed but got offered a fulltime position today. Got selected out of over 300 applicants. yeeew!

Also, any chance of getting a copy of the DVD too? hahahah happy to cover costs :D Maybe we should compress it into an appropriate video file and host it. Or even break it up and post in on youtube :cool:

It's a 3Gb file unedited, not sure of the size after editing as the burning software I used deletes the temporary files after burning.
If you can wait a little while, I'm happy to edit/burn another one and send it to you.
It would be a shame to over compress the video, perhaps I'll try a few runs to mpeg4 at different qualities and see how it comes out.....

There may also be copyright issues with youtube etc....


Fraser

subasurf
7th March 2010, 10:34 AM
I am soooooo stoked.
Went to the local swap meet this morning and found a copy of the "Off the Beaten Track" book. In great condition too for $3. w000h000.

Rangie Rover, did you manage to get a copy of the book? Are those scans good enough for you? I'm slightly hesitant to give this book away as I'd love to show it to my future kids and all, but I'm more than happy to send it over to you for a little while if you want to have a look.

Rangier Rover
7th March 2010, 11:11 AM
I am soooooo stoked.
Went to the local swap meet this morning and found a copy of the "Off the Beaten Track" book. In great condition too for $3. w000h000.

Rangie Rover, did you manage to get a copy of the book? Are those scans good enough for you? I'm slightly hesitant to give this book away as I'd love to show it to my future kids and all, but I'm more than happy to send it over to you for a little while if you want to have a look.



Great find! Look after it.:)

I managed to get two of the books.... Off the beaten track and further off the beaten track now in a folder and belong with the Series 2a.
Thanks for the offer anyway:)

Tony

subasurf
7th March 2010, 11:17 AM
No problem mate :)

My eyes lit up when I saw the book. hahah also managed to nab the workshop manual for my Holden 6 for $2. Great start to the day :D

Rangier Rover
23rd March 2010, 11:02 PM
Not much progress to report as yet but I have just purchased a car trailer:eek: Another rego:mad: I'm so sick of hiring other trailers that have major problems... Electrics,wheel bearings, tyres and brakes being the main issues. All the time I have spent stuffing around in the past. Then the long haul to take it back.
The trailer will be a great asset during this restoration as will now be able to drag larger parts or wrecks and move AYI from shed to shed till finished.

Disco_owner
24th March 2010, 07:55 AM
Not much progress to report as yet but I have just purchased a car trailer:eek: Another rego:mad: I'm so sick of hiring other trailers that have major problems... Electrics,wheel bearings, tyres and brakes being the main issues. All the time I have spent stuffing around in the past. Then the long haul to take it back.
The trailer will be a great asset during this restoration as will now be able to drag larger parts or wrecks and move AYI from shed to shed till finished.


I'm still having nightmares about that "Rutherglen" episode, you could have bought this "Trailer" sooner.:mad: :p

seriously it is a wise decision to buy your own seeing you will be regularly using it and you know the condition of the trailer yourself as it will be serviced in the rangier workshop:twisted:

Rangier Rover
26th March 2010, 01:39 PM
I'm still having nightmares about that "Rutherglen" episode, you could have bought this "Trailer" sooner.:mad: :p
So am I:eek: You did very well to recover that wile going down hill at over 80kmh:cool:

seriously it is a wise decision to buy your own seeing you will be regularly using it and you know the condition of the trailer yourself as it will be serviced in the rangier workshop:twisted:
Never had one come up for the right price till now. It's in good condition as is but only has override brakes on the front axle. I'm going to convert it to four wheel electric brakes, all new wheel bearings, rewire it & fit led lights all round, re bush the springs + realign the axles so runs true and fit four new light truck tyres + mount two spares on either side, fit an electric winch, and your job will be respraying it with some colour:p

This one will be a me haul. I will never lend it out with out keeping an eye on things. However I will help others in need when I can. Especially stranded or damaged landy's if it ever happens to anyone in our area.
Be so nice just to hook it up and go with out all the dramas of the past:)

series3
26th March 2010, 11:39 PM
Leyland Brothers on channel 7 right now!

EDIT - they're in Jeeps though...

marko66
27th March 2010, 06:28 PM
Hi All

Rangier if i was fixing the trailer as you describe i'd attach stubs to hold the spares as you then have spare hubs as well and i'd attach the spare wheels to the left front and drivers side rear so as to make door access easier:). Feel free to ignore this advice :)

Regards Mark

Rangier Rover
27th March 2010, 09:08 PM
Hi All

Rangier if i was fixing the trailer as you describe i'd attach stubs to hold the spares as you then have spare hubs as well and i'd attach the spare wheels to the left front and drivers side rear so as to make door access easier:). Feel free to ignore this advice :)

Regards Mark
Will do:D Thats a great idea:) No need to carry spares this way.:) If on hubs I can mount them lower in the rear:twisted:

Sleepy
3rd April 2010, 01:47 PM
Saw another episode of Land Rover World the other night with a brief glimpse of your beast. (It was on late about midnight on 7TWO)
Again, they were flashing back to earlier trips and showed a canoe adventure down a river from the Barrington Tops. Not too many Landy scenes but nonetheless your S2a was clearly visible. They had the ute too. We need to source that whole series - I think I'll shoot off an email to Channel 7.
Classic Leyland Bros stuff too - dorky music, constant cuts to kookaburras and kangaroos - loved it. :D

Sleepy
3rd April 2010, 06:48 PM
Looks like Channel 7 don't like email enquiries. Looks like I'll have to do it the old fashioned way.;)
http://www.sevencorporate.com.au/default.aspx?page=contactdetails

Rangier Rover
4th April 2010, 08:17 AM
Looks like Channel 7 don't like email enquiries. Looks like I'll have to do it the old fashioned way.;)
SevenCorporate - Contact Details (http://www.sevencorporate.com.au/default.aspx?page=contactdetails)

I have tried once with no response:( Maybe if you tell them we have the vehicle here and send a pic for proof.

Someone here must have a contact in the TV industry.... Please come forward:)

Tony

Jeff
10th April 2010, 07:54 AM
Just saw Quest For Vanished Giants, where the Leyland Brothers travelled to Lake Callabonna to search for Diprotodon bones. Lots of shots of AYI077, the bits are a bit different to the Trek To The Top episode, They trailered some three wheeled bikes to explore the lake. There is another episode on now but they are in Jeeps.

Jeff

:rocket:

Cap
10th April 2010, 03:07 PM
This is a great thread. It makes my heart swell with Oz pride that there is so much love for our history and respect all around.

Great to be part of the LR community, nothing else like it! :D

Chops
10th April 2010, 04:43 PM
Just saw Quest For Vanished Giants, where the Leyland Brothers travelled to Lake Callabonna to search for Diprotodon bones. Lots of shots of AYI077, the bits are a bit different to the Trek To The Top episode, They trailered some three wheeled bikes to explore the lake. There is another episode on now but they are in Jeeps.

Jeff

:rocket:


Was a good episode,, I arrived home from work just after it started,, an excellent way to unwind with all that country, and those cool cars,,,:D

korg20000bc
10th April 2010, 07:31 PM
Has Harry Butler's vehicle turned up at all?

agrojnr
17th April 2010, 01:31 PM
Leyland brothers were on this morning over tanking on Cape york in 1972 (ute and wagon)

Great stuff

Adam

Jeff
17th April 2010, 01:41 PM
Has Harry Butler's vehicle turned up at all?

Or Malcolm Douglas' Series 1 from Across The Top.

Jeff

:rocket:

Sleepy
17th April 2010, 02:21 PM
Leyland brothers were on this morning over tanking on Cape york in 1972 (ute and wagon)

Great stuff

Adam

Yes that was an amazing episode. Enjoyed the Jardine Crossing.....mustn't have had crocs back then :lol2::eek2:

djam1
17th April 2010, 02:39 PM
The vehicle in question can be seen in this clip

YouTube- Wolf Creek - Leyland Brothers

Rangier Rover
17th April 2010, 07:17 PM
I have done very little with AYI to date for various reasons.
A local paper here has done an article on it and I have had a overwhelming amount of interest from many people in our area. Some who want to help get her back on track.
A few have suggested when its all done to partly rein-act some of the expeditions. Just need to find a nice 109 Tray back to make the picture;) I think a few members here have a 2a six 109 tray in the same colour. :)
If I cant find any remains of the original I may come up with a replica of it for the purpose if this all happens.

Or should AYI be displayed only.

What do you think?

Any one want to have a crack at knocking up a look alike of that moon buggy thing;)

Hopefully as winter sets in we will get back on track with this.:)

Sleepy
17th April 2010, 08:23 PM
With all due respect, that buggy looked like a dog to drive - offset steering wheel, no suspension travel - I couldn't see the point of driving into the crater - why not walk? It wasn't carrying anything other than Mal and the missus. :confused:

Oh well, I s'pose back then you could drive anywhere so ; why not?

I reckon you need the big tinny strapped to the roof though.:D

Rangier Rover
17th April 2010, 08:32 PM
With all due respect, that buggy looked like a dog to drive - offset steering wheel, no suspension travel - I couldn't see the point of driving into the crater - why not walk? It wasn't carrying anything other than Mal and the missus. :confused:

Oh well, I s'pose back then you could drive anywhere so ; why not?

I reckon you need the big tinny strapped to the roof though.:D

Your right about the buggy. It would have done a lot better with some flex. I guess they tried to keep the weight down.

I'm working on a Tinny and a few other small items that were familiar at the time.:) The tinny looks like a Quintrex so should be a few about I hope.:)

akelly
18th April 2010, 03:15 PM
Definitely use it - love the idea of re-enactments too.

The ho har's
18th April 2010, 04:43 PM
we need a realy good pic of the door decal LBF?? so if anyone can work how to get a pic would be good:D

Mrs hh:angel:

pop058
18th April 2010, 04:52 PM
we need a realy good pic of the door decal LBF?? so if anyone can work how to get a pic would be good:D

Mrs hh:angel:

I feel some ledgenday "Harry magic" is about to occur

The ho har's
18th April 2010, 05:18 PM
I feel some ledgenday "Harry magic" is about to occur

yep have already offerded;):D

oh a pm needs to be sent


Mrs hh:angel:

vnx205
18th April 2010, 05:30 PM
Your right about the buggy. It would have done a lot better with some flex. I guess they tried to keep the weight down.


Did that thing have any suspension at all? A bit of articulation certainly would have made it a lot better.

Rangier Rover
19th April 2010, 09:21 PM
Did that thing have any suspension at all? A bit of articulation certainly would have made it a lot better.

No suspension travel at all:eek: It did have four wheel steering though:twisted: The V Wee engine must have been injected or had a non standard carby as would not have run very well in that situation if its any thing like my type 3 powered buggy I have here.

Rangier Rover
19th April 2010, 09:27 PM
we need a realy good pic of the door decal LBF?? so if anyone can work how to get a pic would be good:D

Mrs hh:angel:


I feel some ledgenday "Harry magic" is about to occur


yep have already offerded;):D

oh a pm needs to be sent


Mrs hh:angel:

I have had a few goes but not happy with the result as yet. I'll try scaling the image and touch it up some how.
There should be no copyright issues with this as Mal is happy for AYI to be restored:)

101RRS
24th April 2010, 12:17 AM
Saw`heaps of your truck on Leyland Bros world tonite on their trip to Cameron's Corner. They also had a tray back with a similar rego number AYI??? the rest is obscured by what looks like a winch pully.

Garry

Rangier Rover
25th April 2010, 12:52 AM
You know what is rather frustrating and some what upsetting:( Because of my location I do not receive free to air TV let alone digital:(
In all fairness one should be allowed to record or capture it for me without getting into strife:)

Tony

pop058
25th April 2010, 05:39 AM
Saw`heaps of your truck on Leyland Bros world tonite on their trip to Cameron's Corner. They also had a tray back with a similar rego number AYI??? the rest is obscured by what looks like a winch pully.

Garry

AYI 556 or AYI 566
IIRC


You know what is rather frustrating and some what upsetting:( Because of my location I do not receive free to air TV let alone digital:(
In all fairness one should be allowed to record or capture it for me without getting into strife:)

Tony


Can we (anyone) assist with this ??

The ho har's
26th April 2010, 05:47 PM
AYI 556 or AYI 566
IIRC




Can we (anyone) assist with this ??


yes we can:D...ho har has been putting all the episodes on the hard drive for me to watch so have asked him to put all relevant episodes on a DVD to send to Tony:D


Mrs hh:angel:

The ho har's
17th July 2010, 05:49 PM
Anything else happening Tony...any more progress?:) Harry is still working on the door graphics;)

will let you now soon what date we will be down at chrissy;)

Mrs hh:angel:

Rangier Rover
18th July 2010, 10:08 PM
Anything else happening Tony...any more progress?:) Harry is still working on the door graphics;)

will let you now soon what date we will be down at chrissy;)

Mrs hh:angel:

A few more oil leaks have appeared and two slave cylinders have tossed it in:D

Nothing really to mention. The shed has fallen through so have to make room for it here some how:eek: Too much going on in my work shop and surroundings ATM.:(

I have found a good chassis for her although not ex mill so wont have the lifted spring mounts etc. I'll fab it.:)
Lots of stuff to source for her yet. I'll populate a list soon:)

Coming up with some shed space is first priority. May end up in an older shed here with a dirt floor unfortunately.

You and Harry any good with concrete:angel:

Things have got a bit out of hand here in the past. It will take me two years to tidy this place up:eek:

Had a good week, so we're heading in the right direction now:)

Date is flexible in December, going nowhere as the fire thing will have me tied here this year:)
Note to self.....Must fix that busted pipe at the shearers quaters that the frost froze a few weeks back. Knowing me, I'll fix it the day you arive:D

Tony

The ho har's
19th July 2010, 08:18 AM
A few more oil leaks have appeared and two slave cylinders have tossed it in:D

Nothing really to mention. The shed has fallen through so have to make room for it here some how:eek: Too much going on in my work shop and surroundings ATM.:(

I have found a good chassis for her although not ex mill so wont have the lifted spring mounts etc. I'll fab it.:)
Lots of stuff to source for her yet. I'll populate a list soon:)

Coming up with some shed space is first priority. May end up in an older shed here with a dirt floor unfortunately.

You and Harry any good with concrete:angel:

Things have got a bit out of hand here in the past. It will take me two years to tidy this place up:eek:

Had a good week, so we're heading in the right direction now:)

Date is flexible in December, going nowhere as the fire thing will have me tied here this year:)
Note to self.....Must fix that busted pipe at the shearers quaters that the frost froze a few weeks back. Knowing me, I'll fix it the day you arive:D

Tony

Just so happens we have a spare one here (I think) will check;)

Concrete...we are on holidays:o:D

Don't stress to much about the busted pipe we are both fully self sufficient and we will be there 21st Dec :D x 2 vehicles

Mrs hh:angel:

Jeff
29th July 2010, 09:48 PM
There was another Off The Beaten Track episode the last week. They took their Land Rovers to the Kimberley. AYI 566 ended up on it's side. I Love seeing these episodes.

Jeff

:rocket:

Fluids
28th October 2010, 04:12 PM
Just a quick heads up!

LAND ROVER FEATURED IN BOOK WITH THE LEYLAND BROS (eBay item 230543763133 end time 07-Nov-10 14:55:57 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LAND-ROVER-FEATURED-BOOK-LEYLAND-BROS-/230543763133)

"Discovering Australia" ... "WOW !!! DON'T SEE THIS BOOK TO OFTEN ,DISCOVERY AUSTRALIA BY MIKE AND MAL LEYLAND AND THERE TRUSTY SERIES IIA LAND ROVERS ,GREAT BOOK LOTS OF GREAT PICTURES ALL IN COLOUR 208 PAGES ALL IN MINT CONDITION RARE BOOK ,HAPPY BIDDING ... "

I think someone needs to snap this one up ASAP!

pop058
28th October 2010, 05:46 PM
Just a quick heads up!

LAND ROVER FEATURED IN BOOK WITH THE LEYLAND BROS (eBay item 230543763133 end time 07-Nov-10 14:55:57 AEDST) : Cars, Bikes, Boats (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LAND-ROVER-FEATURED-BOOK-LEYLAND-BROS-/230543763133)

"Discovering Australia" ... "WOW !!! DON'T SEE THIS BOOK TO OFTEN ,DISCOVERY AUSTRALIA BY MIKE AND MAL LEYLAND AND THERE TRUSTY SERIES IIA LAND ROVERS ,GREAT BOOK LOTS OF GREAT PICTURES ALL IN COLOUR 208 PAGES ALL IN MINT CONDITION RARE BOOK ,HAPPY BIDDING ... "

I think someone needs to snap this one up ASAP!


Done :)

The ho har's
28th October 2010, 06:22 PM
Done :)


right now....we need a close up photo of the pic with the decal....have a photo of the door scanned in so we know the size of the decal but a closer pic for correctness would be great;) :D

getting there slowly Tony;)


Mrs hh:angel:

Designosaur
29th April 2011, 11:48 PM
Hi Rangier Rover, I have a bullbar which looks similar to the pic from the book, it has an extra bar across under the headlights though. I have attached a pic please have a look and let me know if this would be useful to you in the resto.

It is great that you are saving this Landie. I loved watching the Leylands as a kid.
B

Killer
30th April 2011, 01:14 PM
Note to self.....Must fix that busted pipe at the shearers quaters that the frost froze a few weeks back. Knowing me, I'll fix it the day you arive:D

Tony


Gee Tony, you were pretty accurate on that one, fixed the day after we arrived.:D:D:p

Cheers, Mick.

The ho har's
30th April 2011, 03:37 PM
Funny you should say that Mick...but for the life of me I can't see Rangier/Tony/Rover in this pick fixing the broken pipe:p:D:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/668.jpg

Mrs hh:angel:

Killer
30th April 2011, 05:06 PM
Yes I didn't say it was tony who fixed it.:angel::angel: He did supervise for a while though, until he had to give you lot a grand tour.

Cheers, Mick.

The ho har's
30th April 2011, 05:25 PM
Yes I didn't say it was tony who fixed it.:angel::angel: He did supervise for a while though, until he had to give you lot a grand tour.

Cheers, Mick.

Yes and grand tour was muchly appreciated:D:D;)

Mrs hh:angel:

wagoo
2nd May 2011, 05:54 PM
Great to see at least one of the old girls has survived.Those early Leyland Bros,and Mal Douglas "Across The Top" films are what inspired me in part to put myself in hock for 3 years and buy my first Landy back in 1970 ish.
With respect to the brothers Mike and Mal, I do recall reading an interview with them in an early 4wd magazine many years ago after they started using Jeeps, that the Brothers weren't very complimentary about their LandRovers, listing what they considered an unreasonably high incidence of serious breakdowns and expensive repairs. That may in part explain why little interest was shown when the girls took the old wagon back to visit its famous former owners.
Wagoo.

Rangier Rover
17th May 2011, 10:37 PM
Gee Tony, you were pretty accurate on that one, fixed the day after we arrived.:D:D:p

Cheers, Mick.


Funny you should say that Mick...but for the life of me I can't see Rangier/Tony/Rover in this pick fixing the broken pipe:p:D:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/668.jpg

Mrs hh:angel:


Yes I didn't say it was tony who fixed it.:angel::angel: He did supervise for a while though, until he had to give you lot a grand tour.

Cheers, Mick.

:lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2: now have 24 hr security on the place as has more silver in it than Marks and Spencer's ;);)

Oh, and nothing has changed either...... er, light switch, power point :angel:

Must fix them the day before you arrive, again:D

JDNSW
18th May 2011, 05:41 AM
Great to see at least one of the old girls has survived.Those early Leyland Bros,and Mal Douglas "Across The Top" films are what inspired me in part to put myself in hock for 3 years and buy my first Landy back in 1970 ish.
With respect to the brothers Mike and Mal, I do recall reading an interview with them in an early 4wd magazine many years ago after they started using Jeeps, that the Brothers weren't very complimentary about their LandRovers, listing what they considered an unreasonably high incidence of serious breakdowns and expensive repairs. That may in part explain why little interest was shown when the girls took the old wagon back to visit its famous former owners.
Wagoo.

I encountered them at Old Andado on their trip across the Simpson in 1966, and I am quoted in their book as pointing out that their vehicles were grossly overloaded. This may have something to do with their breakdowns! At that stage I had been working in the desert for over a year and was on my way out on a break (actually drove my 2a, with my brother as a second driver, non-stop to Sydney).

John

Xtreme
18th May 2011, 06:02 AM
John, have you ever thought about writing a book about your pioneering days of vehicles and exploration in the Simpson?

I've picked up a few interesting snippets that you've dropped in various posts and I would love to see them recorded. For anyone interested in the Simpson and the people who ventured there before much was known about it I'm sure your experiences would make a fascinating read.

isuzutoo-eh
18th May 2011, 09:09 AM
Hey John, I second Roger's idea! Alternatively i'd like to sit around the campfire whilst you tell your stories! There's more than one book's worth in those memories of yours.

Jeff
19th May 2011, 05:18 PM
With respect to the brothers Mike and Mal, I do recall reading an interview with them in an early 4wd magazine many years ago after they started using Jeeps, that the Brothers weren't very complimentary about their LandRovers, listing what they considered an unreasonably high incidence of serious breakdowns and expensive repairs.
Wagoo.

I remember them similarly rubbishing Jeeps when they went to Toy#@%s, saying they had lots of problems waiting for parts, and simple things breaking.

Jeff

:rocket:

Dinty
19th May 2011, 05:40 PM
G'day All, I have always remembered this quote " if it has tits or tubes it's going to give you trouble", so whats the big deal LOL cheers Dennis:angel:
ps the leyland lads were probably being paid to rubbish the other brands, just like that so n so who recntly came back on the airwaves,,.

wagoo
19th May 2011, 05:51 PM
I remember them similarly rubbishing Jeeps when they went to Toy#@%s, saying they had lots of problems waiting for parts, and simple things breaking.

Jeff

:rocket:

The old CJ6 jeeps weren't all that flash.3spd gearbox, weak front end etc etc.They were quite capable while they stayed in one piece,but tended to fall apart before they reached the end of the production line.I never saw them actually do much offroading in them on film either.
As John pointed out, They did tend to overload the Landies somewhat considering the terrain they intended to cross. Why they used to cart the dead weight of that useless Willys Mule around on the trayback Landy baffles me.They were only designed and useful for urban warfare, for ammo resupply and retreiving casualties.
wagoo.

The ho har's
19th May 2011, 06:33 PM
Right back on track, Rangier/Tony how about designosaur's offer:)

sounds like a good one to me;)

Mrs hh:angel:


ps when we come next to visit we may bring the 101 FC:o:D:D:D

Rangier Rover
25th May 2011, 07:20 PM
Right back on track, Rangier/Tony how about designosaur's offer:)

sounds like a good one to me;)

Mrs hh:angel:


ps when we come next to visit we may bring the 101 FC:o:D:D:D



So you want to swap the 101 for AYI:D:angel::p

The 101 would do well here, go right up to that fence and carry lots of post:angel: Should also pull that trailer with the backhoe :cool:

Yea, back on topic.... BTW, dont mind the facts, but, where are the jeeps now?

Also enjoy other members experiences over the years. I don't mind the past quotes as relevant to the period of time.

On over loading and breakage, if you look at the films and the now rear diff, it has a sals:angel: Quite a tough unit and would have been expensive in its day. Not sure if Leylands fitted it etc.

Most of all, Mal is now very interested in the vehicles future.
There is a lot more to this as our local editor made contact with Mal and Lorain. May involve a book if we find the nerves to have a crack.

Right back on topic..... :angel:

On designer stuff, is a hard call, was painted AFAIK, but thinking sticker would be easier with this partial restoration as may have to replace the door skins if I bugger up wile removal and repairing the frames.

Another good member has offered a 6cyl bulk head to help repair this one.
Thanks Dennis.:cool:

JDNSW
25th May 2011, 08:28 PM
I am currently scanning a lot of my old slides. I came across this one, which may be of interest to those looking at this thread. It was taken in the camp I was in charge of in 1966 in the middle of the Simpson Desert.

John

The ho har's
25th May 2011, 08:47 PM
I am currently scanning a lot of my old slides. I came across this one, which may be of interest to those looking at this thread. It was taken in the camp I was in charge of in 1966 in the middle of the Simpson Desert.

John


OK John I can see at least 1 leyland bro there, I supose you are taking photo:)


Mrs hh:angel:

drifter
25th May 2011, 09:32 PM
I am currently scanning a lot of my old slides. I came across this one, which may be of interest to those looking at this thread. It was taken in the camp I was in charge of in 1966 in the middle of the Simpson Desert.

John

Fantastic. I have just, literally, been watching a DvD of the 2006 'remembrance' crossing and they had archive footage of the 1966 traverse.

JDNSW
26th May 2011, 05:41 AM
OK John I can see at least 1 leyland bro there, I supose you are taking photo:)


Mrs hh:angel:

No, I was actually not in the camp - I had met them at Old Andado the previous day, when they were going in and I was going out. See page 134 of "Where Dead Men Lie"! The photo was taken by one of my crew.

John

wagoo
27th May 2011, 05:17 PM
No, I was actually not in the camp - I had met them at Old Andado the previous day, when they were going in and I was going out. See page 134 of "Where Dead Men Lie"! The photo was taken by one of my crew.

John

Re the photo at your camp John. Was that where they had to do extensive rewelding and reinforcing to the series 1 SWs rear crossmember, tow coupling etc? They asked the manager of the camp about spare diffs, but it was an all Toyota outfit?
Wagoo.

The ho har's
27th May 2011, 05:23 PM
Re the photo at your camp John. Was that where they had to do extensive rewelding and reinforcing to the series 1 SWs rear crossmember, tow coupling etc? They asked the manager of the camp about spare diffs, but it was an all Toyota outfit?
Wagoo.


Are you in the photo as well then???

:angel:Mrs hh

wagoo
28th May 2011, 08:16 AM
Are you in the photo as well then???

:angel:Mrs hh

No! Strange question. If I was in the photo I wouldn't have asked John about the scenario would I? In 1966 I was 16 yrs old, still at school, a wide eyed wannabe adventurer, dreaming of the day I would have my own 4wd so that I could follow in the footsteps, or rather wheeltracks of Len Beadell and the Leylands.

JDNSW
28th May 2011, 10:47 AM
Re the photo at your camp John. Was that where they had to do extensive rewelding and reinforcing to the series 1 SWs rear crossmember, tow coupling etc? They asked the manager of the camp about spare diffs, but it was an all Toyota outfit?
Wagoo.

Yes on all counts. I can't at this time remember who was left in the camp, but it would only have been two or three acting as caretakers - the whole camp was on a field break, as in those days we did not run a continuous operation, probably because there was more a shortage of key skills than of equipment. So the person in charge would not have been an actual manager. I have a vague memory that one of those who was there was the mechanic, staying in camp because of a tendency to drink unwisely in town, the others would have remained to save money.

The crew had been newly equipped for this job. Initially our light vehicles consisted of a fleet of two wheel drive IH AB120 utes, an FJ40 for the surveyor, and an FJ45V for myself as party chief. By this time however, all the Inters had been replaced by Landcruisers, mostly FJ45 traybacks, but one FJ40. The original surveyor's vehicle was destroyed in a fire (petrol leaked from the under seat tank, which on Landcruisers of that time was inside the body, plus smoking). As far as I know, the remains are almost certainly still there, if my memory is correct, at the campsite where that photo was taken.

John

wagoo
28th May 2011, 02:52 PM
Thanks John. From my vague recollection of the story from thw ''Wheels Across The Wilderness'' book that I read around 30years ago, there may have only been one person left at camp who from the answer to the query about diffs stated, "we only have Toyotas, will they fit"? was probably not a mechanic either.
Wagoo.

series1buff
29th May 2011, 05:11 PM
Hi All,

The little mule was driven into the crater purely for " the camera" . They wanted to make the episode more exciting for the viewers, the whole reason for taking it along was to provide entertainment for prospective TV viewers.

They were well known for overloading their vehicles: Ever heard the one about their overloaded 4X4 tipping over just after they set off on a trip ! They just got around the corner from their house and it went on its side. I always got the impression that they weren't the most practical people in terms of vehicle " common sense "

Mike

wagoo
30th May 2011, 05:56 PM
Hi All,

The little mule was driven into the crater purely for " the camera" . They wanted to make the episode more exciting for the viewers, the whole reason for taking it along was to provide entertainment for prospective TV viewers.

They were well known for overloading their vehicles: Ever heard the one about their overloaded 4X4 tipping over just after they set off on a trip ! They just got around the corner from their house and it went on its side. I always got the impression that they weren't the most practical people in terms of vehicle " common sense "

Mike

I recall they were members of the LROC of New Castle, as I read an account in a club newsletter before the WATW expedition of their tyre testing trials with aircraft tyres on the SWB. During the period they were using landRovers surely there would have been a few more experienced overlanders in the club that offered a bit of guidance as to vehicle "common sense".If I had been the mechanic they took on the WATW expedition I would have insisted on them fitting an ENV diff to the rear at least on the series 1 wagon before agreeing to go with them.
Poor bugger! They half worked him to death trying to keep that old bucket of bolts going.
Wagoo.

JDNSW
30th May 2011, 08:48 PM
I recall they were members of the LROC of New Castle, as I read an account in a club newsletter before the WATW expedition of their tyre testing trials with aircraft tyres on the SWB. During the period they were using landRovers surely there would have been a few more experienced overlanders in the club that offered a bit of guidance as to vehicle "common sense".If I had been the mechanic they took on the WATW expedition I would have insisted on them fitting an ENV diff to the rear at least on the series 1 wagon before agreeing to go with them.
Poor bugger! They half worked him to death trying to keep that old bucket of bolts going.
Wagoo.

I think in some ways you are being a bit harsh on them. In 1966, unless I am mistaken, the ENV diff had not been fitted to any Landrovers (first was the 2b FC 110, which would not have appeared in Australia by the time of the expedition). Their Series 1 wagon was fitted with a Rover six, which, given heavy axle loading, and sand driving, was almost certain to bust the diff (in a Series 2 it would have broken an axle).

Remember that at this time, Landrovers were the only four wheel drive available in any numbers. Toyotas were starting to come into use, but for most users they were an unknown quantity, and Patrols had only just appeared. Jeeps had been around for a while, and in fact I think, were actually being assembled in Brisbane at the time - but had few supporters. Scouts existed, but were unproven. There was the IH AB120 4x4, but they had a distressing tendency to break just about everything.

That they were using a Series 1 suggests that they were not exactly flush with funds anyway, but given the realities of the time, it is difficult to see what they should have used. Certainly, given all the junk they were carrying, they were bound to have breakages. But it is all too easy to see the problems in hindsight.

Interesting to note that when we started work in the Desert, we also used aircraft tyres or other very wide tyres on our vehicles. By the time of their expedition though, we had found that better results came from using normal or larger diameter sized tyres, but radial ply - which at the time were very expensive and hard to get.

John

wagoo
1st June 2011, 06:58 PM
I think in some ways you are being a bit harsh on them. In 1966, unless I am mistaken, the ENV diff had not been fitted to any Landrovers (first was the 2b FC 110, which would not have appeared in Australia by the time of the expedition). Their Series 1 wagon was fitted with a Rover six, which, given heavy axle loading, and sand driving, was almost certain to bust the diff (in a Series 2 it would have broken an axle).

John

Perhaps I am being a little harsh. But ever since shattering the diff on my first LandRover in 1970, only 3 weeks after purchasing the vehicle I've been anal about them, and for what was intended to be a pioneering and potentially dangerous expedition into remote unchartered territory with peoples wellbeing at stake, if a stronger option were available, which it was, as the ENV became standard on series 2a FC circa 1965 and available as an option for normal control control 109s.I would have spent the money and fitted one to the series 1 wagon.
Yes, it is easy to be critical with the benefit of hindsight.But even at 16 years of age, having read about the exloits and ordeals of many other LandRoverlanders both here and overseas, I would have taken advantage of their hindsight when determining how to prepare my vehicle.
Anyway, I apologise for straying well off topic. AYI 077 had nothing to do with the east/west crossing.

The ho har's
1st June 2011, 07:24 PM
I apologise for straying well off topic. AYI 077 had nothing to do with the east/west crossing.


And AYI 077 is a pleasure to drive:angel:...though the brakes need attention

Mrs hh:angel:

Rangier Rover
4th June 2011, 01:40 AM
Alright,

We dont mind the general discussion of the Leylands, their period and others that made some form of contact as very interesting + relevant....

If we insist on discussion on the weak points and Leylands choice of vehicles at the given time we may need to start a new thread, then merge the relevant topics.


I can see the original cause here getting snowed in at this rate. :angel:


On this dear old 109, please keep in mind we're trying to save what may have been scrapped.

She does have authentic charm and some Australian history attached.:)

Oh, the brakes seem to work fine atm:angel:




Will post a wish list of much needed fresh spares soon:cool:


Tony:)

Ratel10mm
13th August 2011, 10:08 AM
Hey Tony, how's the project coming along?

bigcarle
7th September 2011, 05:00 AM
X2 :D:D

Rangier Rover
10th September 2011, 06:54 PM
Hey Tony, how's the project coming along?


Hi all,

have been off the radar for a wile and looks like I need to resubscribe here as PM box full etc:o

Not much progress as short on shed space etc, so cant strip her down as yet.

Have wheels in motion to move AYI to the local mens shed for a wile (Temporary) and work on it in there. Will involve our local community to some extent, but will always belong here. AULRO:cool:

I need to dig up many pms and some long lost emails on many generous offers of various spares inc a chassis and bulkhead.

Sorry I have been lapse on this, many life changing challenges that I have been up against recently have been beyond my control:(

Hopefully things will look up from here on.;)

Edit, The original AYI 077 number plates are in storage at RTA so still on the system. I have some replica's (Laminated prints only) for show use only.

Regards, Tony

Disco_owner
16th September 2011, 03:44 PM
Hi foks , I may have nothing to contribute except to go around tony's place and Lend a Helping hand in restoring the old girl , I'm sure that the Labour of love to contribute into restoring AYI077 would be much appreciated by the community. Well , Tony I'll be waiting for an invite. :D

Jeff
14th October 2011, 08:17 AM
Trek to the Top was on this morning:D. Does anyone know anything about the 'big tyres' they used for that trip? I see in one shot it appears to say Goodyear on the side. What size are they?

Jeff

:rocket:

wagoo
14th October 2011, 09:35 PM
Trek to the Top was on this morning:D. Does anyone know anything about the 'big tyres' they used for that trip? I see in one shot it appears to say Goodyear on the side. What size are they?

Jeff

:rocket:

I vaguely recall them being described as 15'' wide Goodyear Terra tyres.Wasn't much around in specialist offroad tyres back then.
Wagoo.

Rangier Rover
17th November 2011, 05:57 PM
Coolah has the annual Christmas street parade coming up. Depending on legalities, I plan to make a run with AYI so a few can see her. I'll need some help to create some laminated posters with clips from books etc to tell her story.

I'll get our local jurno to write a tribute for the Leyland's and in particular Mike.



Once the street carnival is out of the way, AYI will be sat on a jig and disassembled for much needed renovations. I have decided to try and save as much original metal as possible. This will be tough with the poor condition of the chassis and bulkhead.

Also need to find a complete running rover six (2.6 or 3l will do) as the 186 holden was dropped in latter in life.

Inevitably the entire vehicle will be stripped then resembled over the next years.:(

Sleepy
17th November 2011, 06:18 PM
Well done Tony, good luck with the carnival and future restoration.

Dont forget.:rulez::angel:


Make sure you keep in the spotlight here on aulro as I am sure plenty of us would love to contribute (in any small way) to help keep an iconic vehicle alive.
If nothing else those of us in the city may be able to help pick up bits for you from local suppliers.

Have you got a wanted list going yet? Dont be shy:D

Rangier Rover
17th November 2011, 06:36 PM
Well done Tony, good luck with the carnival and future restoration.

Dont forget.:rulez::angel:


Make sure you keep in the spotlight here on aulro as I am sure plenty of us would love to contribute (in any small way) to help keep an iconic vehicle alive.
If nothing else those of us in the city may be able to help pick up bits for you from local suppliers.

Have you got a wanted list going yet? Dont be shy:D

Thanks Paul,

Sure will keep things alive here, I have been inactive for various reasons hence the silence.

AYI will always belong here (AULRO)


Have been offered a chassis and bulk head etc but had no time to organise collection.

Sadly I lost a lot of contacts a wile back when we had a computer melt down.





Once she is dissembled, I'll put a wish list together. .:cool:



The local mens shed plans have fallen through ATM as my good old mate has had a turn for the worse.:( I'll be keeping AYI here for time being.

Making a chassis jig for her, then it wont be an issue as can move her around when I need the work shop.

Storing the parts will be the worst.

The ho har's
17th November 2011, 06:56 PM
We will be down sooner or later;) make sure you put that parts list up for when we decide to visit so we can bring what parts we can scavenge??.lost my spell check:mad:

Mrs hh:angel:

Rangier Rover
1st May 2012, 12:56 AM
AYI survived the street parade OK. The unsuspecting driver had to do a three point turn to perform a simple U turn.:angel: Now under a large tarp being preserved till we make shed space and I have put the original plates on hold again with the RTA.:o

I have a massive wish list already for much needed parts and help with the ongoing refurbishment.

Main ones being a running Rover 6 donk complete with ancillaries, a 11A 6cylinder bulkhead, a 109 6 chassis in fair nick and Door frames (Mainly fronts)
From here will be door and window seals, Brake kits, minor trim work, several gauges to refurbish, working out how to age paint work to keep her charm, Some close to original decals (Two kind members have put wheels in motion for this) manufacturing the bars, racks and water tanks, winch as they used to be in the 70's.

isuzutoo-eh
1st May 2012, 11:23 AM
working out how to age paint work to keep her charm

Hi Tony,
I'll be doing something similar in the next month or two on a pair of doors- have a few tricks up my sleeve that the railway and military modellers use that should work ok on full scale...will let you know how I get on. If the finish I get is alright i'd be pleased to lend a hand too.

The ho har's
1st May 2012, 04:29 PM
hmmmmm diesel or petrol motor;)

Mrs hh:angel:

pop058
1st May 2012, 04:34 PM
AYI survived the street parade OK. The unsuspecting driver had to do a three point turn to perform a simple U turn.:angel: Now under a large tarp being preserved till we make shed space and I have put the original plates on hold again with the RTA.:o

I have a massive wish list already for much needed parts and help with the ongoing refurbishment.

Main ones being a running Rover 6 donk complete with ancillaries, a 11A 6cylinder bulkhead, a 109 6 chassis in fair nick and Door frames (Mainly fronts)
From here will be door and window seals, Brake kits, minor trim work, several gauges to refurbish, working out how to age paint work to keep her charm, Some close to original decals (Two kind members have put wheels in motion for this) manufacturing the bars, racks and water tanks, winch as they used to be in the 70's.


hmmmmm diesel or petrol motor;)

Mrs hh:angel:

they made a 6 cyl diesel ???? :D

Rangier Rover
1st May 2012, 10:06 PM
Santana do a six diesel.:D
Land Rover Santana 109 Especial 6 cylinder diesel engine - YouTube

Seriously thou,

I'd like to put the original troublesome 2.6 petrol six back in place of the very reliable 186 that now powers AVI. :angel: Seems a crazy thing to do, but I believe its in the interest of most to regain some originality. Besides, those old six's will pull a stump out at idle if running well.

AYI077
6th May 2013, 03:20 PM
Hi!
Any pics of the restoration of our dear old girl AYI077 yet? How's she going??It's been a while, miss her..
:-(
Ta,
Gal who grew up in AYI077 for nearly 30 yrs.

Tim Jones
28th May 2013, 10:37 PM
I know its a year later but did you find the six? I`ve got one down the back that I`m trying to give away. Its painted red as it is an army replacement from 4wd blackburn about 15 years ago. It was running OK 18 months ago but has been sitting under a tarp ever since. Your welcome to it if it suits your needs.....

Mick_Marsh
29th May 2013, 09:03 AM
I know its a year later but did you find the six? I`ve got one down the back that I`m trying to give away. Its painted red as it is an army replacement from 4wd blackburn about 15 years ago. It was running OK 18 months ago but has been sitting under a tarp ever since. Your welcome to it if it suits your needs.....
If it is not gone by the time I get over to SA, I'll pick it up.

Tim Jones
29th May 2013, 08:22 PM
I was kind of hoping it would go in AYI077 but if theres no interest go for it Mick...its looking a bit tatty tho.... Theres a 202 with an adapter plate down the back too....

The ho har's
29th May 2013, 09:08 PM
I was kind of hoping it would go in AYI077 but if theres no interest go for it Mick...its looking a bit tatty tho.... Theres a 202 with an adapter plate down the back too....


No don't let it go...

I rang Tony, no answer....please let Tony, the owner of AYI 077 get first preference, will ring him again tomorrtow:)

Sleepy
30th May 2013, 12:18 AM
I could be wrong but I think mick was offering to help transport it to Tony. That's the way I read it anyway.

Mick_Marsh
30th May 2013, 08:20 AM
Lets get the old AULRO courier thing happening.
First leg, Adelaide to Melbourne.
PM me your address and contact details. I'll let you know when I am coming over.

Hey. I'll have it. These things shouldn't be thrown out. I know of a few Holden conversions that need to be unconverted. If Tony needs it for the AYI077 restoration, I'm sure we can get it up to him.

Rangier Rover
30th May 2013, 08:30 AM
Hi everyone, I have just been alerted by a friend there is some activity over here. (I dont get much time to log in ATM.)

Please do keep the six aside for this restoration.:cool:

My PM box is very full ATM so only reliable contact is email tony@spvindustries.com

(I'm seldom in to take phone calls and mobile is much use as an ash tray on a motor cycle out here)



I have been offered two rover sixes locally, but both have no ancillaries and are non runners. (Cooked)

I haven't done a lot with the vehicle to date as still accumulating much needed parts and resources. (She is kept high and dry in a new shed here.)

Good news is, she still runs and is driven every few months. I also take her into the local Christmas street carnival every year. (Main reason I haven't started full strip down)

Once we commit, its going to be a big journey as will be a full strip down to bare chassis.

I have access to a chassis jig on rollers when the time comes.

When I get time, I'll update this thread with needed parts such as door frames etc.

As discussed earlier in the thread, its a very delicate restoration as we must keep the vehicles authentic charm. To do this, it needs to look, feel and smell 40 years old.

Kind regards,
Tony

Landy Smurf
30th May 2013, 09:31 AM
The smell part will be the easiest

The ho har's
30th May 2013, 06:52 PM
Good to hear,

Harry was working on your shed lights, have got some for FREE:D

OH Bugger that means another trip down:p

Next March on the way to Corrowa, hopefully the Pinz will be there as well:D

Mrs hh:angel:

Tim Jones
4th June 2013, 08:21 AM
Rightyo Tony...yes I did think that was what Mick was offering but I wasn`t sure. My six was still running but I was suspecting a head gasket starting to blow (pressure in the coolant)...and the water pump drips.....But it didn`t over heat. I have a few spares, carby, distributor drive etc etc I`ll send the whole lot. I may be going to Adelaide in the next few months, otherwise we have a reliable and reasonable freight mob here. Keep us up to date.

Rangier Rover
5th June 2013, 10:00 AM
Thanks Tim:cool:,

So it hasn't burnt the exhaust valves yet?:angel:

I've had very little to do with the sixes as all our series here had four cylinders.

I'd assume we can still get an overhaul kit to freshen it up? Are the water pumps serviceable on these old lumps, or do we need to find a new one?

We'll need to find all the ancillaries for it too. We'll also need a flywheel, clutch, engine mounts, manifolds, engine pipe etc.

The dizzy and starter probably should be rebuilt too so is reasonably reliable for longer trips.

Once done, she's going back on the road and will be going a few road trips too.

It's been suggested to me that we try and re-enact some of the earlier trips this particular vehicle was involved in.
I'll pass on dragging that heavy lump of a caravan thou.:angel:

If a rover 2.6ltr six didn't come up, I was going to look for a P5 rover car 3ltr six and hope no one noticed.:angel: I believe they go quite well in a 109.

Tim Jones
5th June 2013, 08:25 PM
I don`t reckon the valves are burnt, The pumps are rebuildable I believe. The flywheel is fine but rusty, the manifold is there and I have a part of the exhaust (the first bit).

Weekender
21st June 2013, 08:44 PM
This resto is very interesting. I was inspired by reading the 66 crossing to have a land rover, even though it took many years to get my Disco. Also loved the Off the Beaten track series of this 109. (Yeah - I hated Trekabout in those dammed Jeeps). My other car is a Kombi, and on the Kombi club forum, discussion turns up about their old Kombis from Ask the LB. Might use this thread to wind up the Kombi club!

Well done!

Jeff
25th June 2013, 01:30 PM
For those following this thread might find this of interest:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/marketplace-alerts/177015-leyland-brothers-books.html

Jeff

:rocket:

Tim Jones
9th July 2013, 06:24 PM
Mick came and picked up the six (from a muddy puddle) he `couldn`t believe how long it took to get here` !!! And hit a roo but lets hope its worth it. Great job Mick!

Mick_Marsh
14th July 2013, 11:41 AM
Finally arrived home.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1157.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/Misc/DSC_2952.jpg.html)

Rangier Rover
20th July 2013, 08:38 PM
Mick came and picked up the six (from a muddy puddle) he `couldn`t believe how long it took to get here` !!! And hit a roo but lets hope its worth it. Great job Mick!
I hope the damage isn't too bad. Poor Mick doing a good deed.


Finally arrived home.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1157.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/Misc/DSC_2952.jpg.html)
Wow, it looks pretty fresh from here.
Thanks Mick, what a mission you have been on!

Email sent.:cool:

The Rover Shop
28th July 2013, 05:33 AM
G'day mate...
Born and bred in Newcastle ( my dad is Big John who runs the local bike toy run there every year) and met the leyland brothers when I was a youngster.. Worked for land rover newcastle for a while back in the 80's..Took off traveling the world 24 years ago and started a very successful land rover repair shop in ft lauderdale Florida and recently sold it to drive around the world in our restored camel trophy defender 110 to come back home.. Also have another 2 ct trucks I am bringing home as well... Will be starting another rover restoration and repair shop when I get home.. Would love to get my hands on a Leyland brothers rig to restore her and use her as she was used before.. Would love to do some tribute runs of famous Leyland brothers routes also.. If you ever want to sell this one please let me know or if you know of any others I would love to save em.. You can check out what we are doing on our website at YoungRovers.com..

bobslandies
28th July 2013, 07:54 AM
Great adventure ahead of you - we look forward to more updates at:

Home Page (http://www.youngrovers.com/Home_Page.php)

and see you when you get back home Shayne (and Sandra):D

Bob

Rangier Rover
5th August 2013, 10:46 PM
Thanks for the interest, I intend to persist with this one and I also think it would be the wrong thing to do (selling it on) unless my health gives out etc.

Far as I'm concerned the vehicle belongs here at AULRO and should remain this way.:cool:

I plan to sell on my partly restored Range Rover Phase2 and put the resources towards the restoration.

Unfortunately I have major time restraints to do too much ATM, but she is high and dry.:cool: (Out of weather and out of direct sun light)

The Rover Shop
11th August 2013, 05:09 AM
I would never take it away from AULRO.., I am driving around the world and coming home to Newcastle where I will be having a collection/museum of my camel trophy vehicles and memorabilia as well as starting up a land rover repair and restoration shop (my business over here which started out as small "keep myself busy" kinda shop grew to 16 employees and was called The Rover Shop).. I don't believe in keeping these vehicles in a museum, I prefer to use them (gently) as they were meant to be used and hope to have some old school land rover get togethers or reunion runs as well as promoting these unique vehicles through tribute websites which I own (www.AskTheLeylandBrothers and www.TheLeylandBrothers... Yet to finish the building of these sites..). I am reaching out to Mr Mal Leyland at the moment and hoping to get some information from him as well as other Leyland Brothers items to add to my collection.. I am not a rich guy, just really into my land rovers.. Especially my older ones.. I was blessed to work at the Newcastle land rover dealer many years ago and the green got into my blood.. Upon my return my services and hopefully my shop will be at your disposal, I would be privileged to be a part of saving these bits of australian 4wd and exploration history..

The ho har's
12th August 2013, 06:26 PM
Thanks for the interest, I intend to persist with this one and I also think it would be the wrong thing to do (selling it on) unless my health gives out etc.

Far as I'm concerned the vehicle belongs here at AULRO and should remain this way.:cool:

I plan to sell on my partly restored Range Rover Phase2 and put the resources towards the restoration.

Unfortunately I have major time restraints to do too much ATM, but she is high and dry.:cool: (Out of weather and out of direct sun light)


We are hopefully coming through in March on way to the Corrowa Military event:)

Do you need us to bring anything down? We can stay a day or to to help:D

Mrs hh:angel:

Dinty
12th October 2014, 05:53 PM
After being away for an overnight run to Rangier Rover's place and seeing AYI-077 again, when I came home I did a bit of asking around/sniffing about etc and found out that the bulkhead I had for AYI-077 did indeed, still exist.
To cut a long story short, it was taken by mistake and I was under the understanding that it had been scrapped :(:(:(, well today I found it leaning up against a tree (image is sideways)
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_3237_zpsfbbb1cd7.jpg
and another shot
http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/DJM110/IMG_3236_zps6d118e38.jpg
I'm chuffed that it is still available and hasn't been scrapped, so now it needs to be claimed and moved, cheers Dennis :angel:

BertR
12th October 2014, 07:46 PM
Only just found this thread, any advance on the restoration? I'd help out with the electrickery side of things but being in Tassie makes it a bit hard and I watched the Leyland brothers any and every time it was on as a little tacker. Was a Sunday night favourite in our family

wrinklearthur
13th October 2014, 06:47 AM
With that firewall, I have some bits and pieces that go with that year build and if whoever is reassembling then finds out there is something missing they could shoot be a PM and I should be able to round something up for them.
.

Rangier Rover
15th October 2014, 02:22 AM
I so pleased to see that six cylinder bulkhead turn up as they are a bit scarce.:cool:

Great to catch with you Denis and very much appreciate what you have done. Now I have an idea where you hide, I can pop in on my way back from the Sydney some time.



The Series 11A is in a very dry dark shed away from any harm whilst we are collecting much needed parts and we're still reorganizing a proper restoration area in the main workshop. Last thing I want to see happen is a full strip down and then get left for years.

Once we get started, we'll go through with the entire restoration till roadworthy again.

This will be much easier now we have moved houses as new location is only around twenty meters from the main workshop.

Some of our frequent visitors have put endless effort into making the area more user friendly too.


We still need door frames, door and window seals, window channels, perhaps a donor chassis. I have one from S111 Six that had a hard hit to RHS. Also need to track down a deluxe bonnet. (one with well for spare)

The rover six and all ancillaries will need freshening up so good for long running hours. Not sure if I'll take it on here or sub out.

The drive line is in very good shape thanks to last owners and brakes will need cylinders replaced/rebuilt just prior to finishing the project.

Dinty
15th October 2014, 06:35 PM
I have a Series 3 109 ex-mil chassis with only surface rust on it, very straight, not sure if you would want a military chassis though?? cheers Dennis
ps it is stored on it's side next to a shed n covered with black plastic and sitting on a couple of bricks to keep the metal off the ground, I haven't looked at it for some time, but I imagine it would be still very serviceable.

The ho har's
15th October 2014, 07:13 PM
I have a Series 3 109 ex-mil chassis with only surface rust on it, very straight, not sure if you would want a military chassis though?? cheers Dennis
ps it is stored on it's side next to a shed n covered with black plastic and sitting on a couple of bricks to keep the metal off the ground, I haven't looked at it for some time, but I imagine it would be still very serviceable.

If stored that way should be still good:) Bring the project on:D Oh bugger another trip down:D

Mrs hh:angel:

Rangier Rover
16th October 2014, 09:05 PM
Just got my car trailer registered again. Looks like I need to drag it with us next visit to Sydney. Is there room to drop it off for a few days?

I'd take this to PM but PM box is very overfull.

Agree, bring the project on now we are so close to having a designated restoration bay in our workshop.:cool:

I can move next project into AYI's resting place, so all goes around in effect.

Timj
16th October 2014, 09:42 PM
So have you got Rhonda off the hoist yet? :D

Scotty85
22nd February 2015, 11:25 PM
Great thread! Any updates??

The Rover Shop
16th November 2015, 12:26 AM
I have a deluxe hood that I will donate to the cause....its here in the USA but since I will be bringing all of my stuff home with me to Newcastle in the next 6 months (along with my 4 camel trophy trucks..:)..) I'm sure I can bring it over..
P.S.... I still want to buy this truck if you wish to sell it..