bullbar petrol disco3

[townse]

Hi all new to the forum and i cant seem to find an Arb or Tjm Bullbar for a petrol Discovery 3

[wyperfield]

TJM do an Alloy bar and ARB do a steel one.
Here is the flyer from ARB.

I am getting an ARB steel delux winch bar fitted for a diesel next week.
You should be able to find ARB's on their website,
Deluxe Bull Bars | ARB 4x4 Accessories » Products » ARB Protection Equipment » Bull Bar Model Range » Deluxe Bull Bars (http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-protection-equipment/bull-bars/deluxe-bull-bars/3232150/)

[townse]

Both Companies only do a bar for deisel now

[WhiteD3]

I have a TJM alloy bar. Its actually their prototype No 2 as they used my car for the test bed. I gather the final product is the same or close to.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8091/091009rainbowbeachgclro.jpg

[Garry]

I too have the TJM bar as the ARB wont fit, standard one though

G

[DiscoSaffa]

I understand there is an issue with the ARB one and the D3 V8, you don't say whether you are wanting to fit to a V6 or V8..... I have the V6 petrol and had an ARB bar fitted in December last year with no issues at all.......

[townse]

Thanks all for the replies to my questions about the bullbar. I contacted both ARB and TJM and they still say their is no bar for a V6 petrol. I don,t understand what is going on but my local four Wheel Drive centre suggested a East Coast bullbar. Don,t know much about them.

[DiscoSaffa]

Thanks all for the replies to my questions about the bullbar. I contacted both ARB and TJM and they still say their is no bar for a V6 petrol. I don,t understand what is going on but my local four Wheel Drive centre suggested a East Coast bullbar. Don,t know much about them.

That really is strange..... when I rang ARB, I just said I wanted a bullbar for a D3..... the motor never featured in any discussions....... I know (and this is due to reading a thread here subsequently) that there is possibly an issue with the V8.......

It is a bit worrying that I might now have a bull bar that shouldn't be on my vehcile......

Which ARB branch are you talking to?

[Tombie]

That really is strange..... when I rang ARB, I just said I wanted a bullbar for a D3..... the motor never featured in any discussions....... I know (and this is due to reading a thread here subsequently) that there is possibly an issue with the V8.......

It is a bit worrying that I might now have a bull bar that shouldn't be on my vehicle......

Which ARB brnach are you talking to?

Nothing to worry about, the chassis dynamics are the same, so if it fit, its fine (simplified but correct in this case) :cool:

[DiscoSaffa]

Nothing to worry about, the chassis dynamics are the same, so if it fit, its fine (simplified but correct in this case) :cool:

Fair enough, and thanks for that. I just worry whether there are any issues similar to the V8, ie modifying brackets etc etc....... but I like to think the blokes at ARB in Artarmon are professional enough not to have done a bodge job........ :o

[Garry]

The ARB bar wont fit without modification to the Bar or the Vehicle, I made them prove it to me in person

There are two bars at TJM, a petrol and a diesel version, I presume it is only the brackets hat are different

G

[DiscoSaffa]

The ARB bar wont fit without modification to the Bar or the Vehicle, I made them prove it to me in person

There are two bars at TJM, a petrol and a diesel version, I presume it is only the brackets hat are different

G

I gather that that relates to the V8 only.......

[ADMIRAL]

Thanks all for the replies to my questions about the bullbar. I contacted both ARB and TJM and they still say their is no bar for a V6 petrol. I don,t understand what is going on but my local four Wheel Drive centre suggested a East Coast bullbar. Don,t know much about them.

ECB are probably the largest manufacturer of alloy bullbars in Oz. The powder coated versions are more user friendly. I don't believe they make a winch bar for the Disco though. Should be some data on their website. Last time I looked Opposite Lock were agents for ECB.

[townse]

Thanks ADMIRAL i will go with the ECB Bar[Not much choice] The powder coated bar seems to be the go.

[djhampson]

Is the ECB bullbar winch compatible?

[ADMIRAL]

Is the ECB bullbar winch compatible?

You will need to check their site, but the last time I looked, they did not have a winch compatible bar for the Disco 3.

They put a steel cradle in to support the winch on their other alloy winch bars. Probably means the weight saving is not actually very much. <Mainly rust resistant though.

[trobbo]

was having a look around the ARB site. There is a 21 page instruction book on how to fit a bull bar :eek:

Deluxe Bull Bars | ARB 4x4 Accessories » Products » ARB Protection Equipment » Bull Bar Model Range » Deluxe Bull Bars (http://arb.com.au/products/arb-protection-equipment/bull-bars/deluxe-bull-bars/3432150/)

[Ashes]

Posted in another forum so not my work. After some minor front end damage (not my fault) and seeing the parts cost from a qoute, I'm looking at bull bars for my petrol D3 as well.. Like the ARB but maybe not an option if the following is true.

Originally Posted by Disco3SE http://www.4x4earth.com.au/forum/tangerine/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.4x4earth.com.au/forum/body-chassis/7811-disco-3-v6-winch-bar.html#post121899)
Problem is, rang ARB HQ this afternoon, and they only make the bullbar for the diesel version of my Disco 3. I have the petrol, and they have told me that it is something to do with the placement of the water bottle..... Tried TJM, and they discontinued it last year. So apart from Land Rover genuine parts, (it is $1300 just for a nudge bar), I don't know where to go......??????????

Posted by Walkabout
The issue with the ARB bar is the way the transmission cooler lines are run, it interferes with the crush can that is used to mount the bull bar to provide crumple zone compatibility.
With so little inquiry for bars on the petrol variant, retooling to suit was not an option.
EBC don't make a comparable bar either.
If TJM used to make a compatible bar it may be worth hunting through wreckers online to try and find one and paint it up like new but I would make very sure first that it does not have the same problem with the cooler lines.
Another option would be to find a comparable bar (non winch) and use a custom chassis winch mount then modify the bar to accept a fairlead - this may open a whole new can of worms though.
Lastly buy the Gen winch nudge and put up with its shocking looks (am told its about $3300.00)
Cheapest and easiest option - buy a Trifor or other good brand hand winchhttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/ depending on the kind of wheeling you want to do (and I suspect your cars purpose is as a tourer) you may never use it but its there for peace of mind.

[ADMIRAL]

A fair few changes since those postings. I would revisit the ARB, Opposite Lock, and ECB options again before making any decision. I don't believe you will find the TJM is available, so not an option

[HarryO]

I also have a MY08 V6 Disco 3 petrol and I contacted ARB and they confirmed that their winch bulbar will fit but you need to move some piping, parts around to make it happen. They also said that this could cause all sorts of vehicle alarms.


That being said as far as I can see ARB are the only option I have. TJM don't make it and the ECB bar is NOT winch compatible

DiscoSaffa said earlier in this post that he had the ARB fitted to his V6 Petrol D3.

DiscoSaffa - Do you know if the guys that fitted yours moved anything and have you had any alarm problems?

Cheers Harry

[Ashes]

I would think that as long as the pipes weren't linked to crash protection systems it might be worth a go if it was fitted by a reputable mob who backed up the mod.

[EDH]

I own a HSE V8 Disco 3 and wanted a deluxe winch bar with rap around side bars and had the same issue.

As other members have stated ECB make a basic non winch bar that will bolt on with a few minor adjustments.

I was also told that somone has had a diesel winch bar fitted to a petrol Disco 3 however some air conditioning components had to be relocated and this put me off getting it done.

TJM's quote was a few hundred dollars cheaper then ARB for the same (only) ECB bar that I was quoted and thanks to a very helpful landrover repair centre who made a number of calls to Brisbane and Sydney I was able to finally find out why I couldn't get the bar I wanted either.

:)

[grumpa]

I have a D3 S V6 and wanted to fit a bull-bar after a run-in with a small 'roo. I got the same run around, "can't be done" etc. I got in touch with Triumph Rover Spares in Adelaide and they got an ARB for me and fitted it too for under $2k.
So it can be done
Grumpa

[dominicbeirne]

Just finished call with ARB at Nundah who quoted me $2119 for a deluxe winch bar fitted on my Black 2009 Petrol V6 SE. They do have a note about Diesel though so it may require purchase from them and fitting by others.

Cheers Dom:wallbash:

[DAVESD3]

Hi all,
I have recently bought a 2009 v6 petrol d3 and want to mount a winch compatible bar but am having the same trouble finding a suitable doner as those in the thread. I was wonering if maybe anyone had fit an ARB bar themselves and done any mods needed as well? My local dealer is being far from helpful, but like i told him someone must have done it somewhere!?

Cheers Dave

[oldsalt]

Hi DavesD3,
give this guy (Roger Chestney) an e-mail, he's been very helpful to me re my bullbar "adjustment" problems, he may be able to give you some help. He is the National Customer Service Coordinator.

rchestney@arb.com.au


cheers

[Ashes]

Go to Opposite Lock. They will have no problems fitting a winch bar to your petrol v6. Bar seems very similar in looks and design the the ARB bar.
I got one done in May in Melbourne with no dramas.

[Heinrick]

HI,
I'm having the same problem with ARB in Mandurah south of Perth
who told me that the Delux winch bullbar they sell for Series 3 can only
fit a Diesel model due to the mounts being diffrent than a Petrol
Also the Diesel HSE models is diffrent and it wont fit them either.

So if the one's from ARB dont fit and TJ cant also and yet their is people
who had them fitted is beyond me some people working at ARB I think have no idea what their selling OR DO IT WITH A BIT OF BOTHER.

Question I have tho is can I do this on my own at home or do u need a hoist or workshop to do this fitment.

Cheesr

[AnD3rew]

The owner at Cremorne Prestige has a winch hidden behind his standard front bumper on his D4 without a bar.

I wonder if you could mount the same way and then fit a non winch alloy bar with a cutout fr the winch cable?

[Ivan]

I had the Opposite Lock winch bar fitted to my D3 V8 without any problems. Been on for over a year now. I too had the same run around with ARB. They said I had to buy the bar and if it didn't fit I still had to pay for the bar.

Ivan

[sniegy]

I really can't understand why there are so many different answers from different ARB stores/franchises?

You would think in a company that has built its reputation on supplying so called "proper" off road gear can't get a simple answer to
It's clients, people willing to spend big dollars with them.
As far as I am aware the Bull Bar WILL fit all models.
I know they will, I have seen them on a V6 petrol, a V8 Petrol & obviously the TDV6 Discovery 3's.

I would take it up with ARB direct in Kilsyth, Victoria as they are the head office.
I am also sure that one of the members either works for or is in some way involved with ARB or one of its franchises.

Very Frustrating for potential owners.

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[ARB 4X4 Accessories]

Hi guys, the D3 bars have been designed and tested for fitment to diesel models only (excluding HSE) as indicated in our price list.

I will make some enquiries with our engineers to find out what the issues are with fitment to petrol models and post it here for clarification.

Cheers, Sam.

[Sadie]

My local Oposite Lock store assured me that their post bar would fit my V6, so I ordered one. I would have had it fitted, too, if they hadn't stuffed me around for three months promising me week after week that it would soon be delivered (after suggesting it could be as little as two weeks)....:(

[Thommo]

Whilst all the talk of bull bars, did I read correctly on the LR Australia site that there is now a factory D4 alloy Bullbar available? Would these be able to be fitted to a D3?

[SBD4]

Whilst all the talk of bull bars, did I read correctly on the LR Australia site that there is now a factory D4 alloy Bullbar available? Would these be able to be fitted to a D3?

You did, and most likely it would - you would need to check though. Here is a post about it:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/125759-d4-landrover-bull-bar-latest-news.html#post1454470

It is very expensive compared to the other offerings.

[rufusking]

Had a look through Topix and couldn't find any installation instructions. Like to know how it comes together re: trimming wheel arches, infill between headlight and bar. Curious if it is compatible with discrete LR winch mount. Anyone the wiser?

[TerryO]

Hi guys, the D3 bars have been designed and tested for fitment to diesel models only (excluding HSE) as indicated in our price list.

I will make some enquiries with our engineers to find out what the issues are with fitment to petrol models and post it here for clarification.

Cheers, Sam.


Hi Sam,

Re excluding HSE diesels, you better tell all the existing HSE owners that have ARB bars that they won't fit.

I went into a ARB store over a year ago and was told that ARB don't make a bar that can be fitted to a diesel HSE, knowing there are plenty that have them fitted I rang the head office and the person I spoke to told me that their bars can be fitted to HSE's no problem at all.

cheers,
Terry

[DoctorJ]

Whilst all the talk of bull bars, did I read correctly on the LR Australia site that there is now a factory D4 alloy Bullbar available? Would these be able to be fitted to a D3?

Gday Thommo, they do make alloy bullbars, 2 problems though

1- they are over $4,000 fitted
2- it will probably be the UGLIEST accessory you added to your LR

Cheers
Julian

[Triplebbb]

I contacted ARB here today (Adelaide) asking for a quote on a bullbar for my 2007 Disco 3 2007 V6 Petrol and was told that they would contact Melbourne (head Office?) and ring me back as they had had an email within the last 2 weeks asking them if they had fitted a Bullbar to this vehicle. Anyway they rang back and said they would order a bar and attempt to fit it! they would need the vehicle for 2 days and quoted $2100 inclusive GST for a winch bar. I expressed surprise that no one had attempted this before. What do you think???

[bbyer]

Hi guys, the D3 bars have been designed and tested for fitment to diesel models only (excluding HSE) as indicated in our price list.

I will make some enquiries with our engineers to find out what the issues are with fitment to petrol models and post it here for clarification.

Cheers, Sam.

The link below is the ARB USA website. All LR3's and LR4's here are petrol, either V6 or V8. The part numbers listed are for both winch and bull bars, for the LR3 and LR4. I do not think the steering wheel location makes any difference to the bars.

http://www.arbusa.com/uploads/PDF/accessorizeYourRig/landRover3.pdf

[robertj]

Opposite Lock Springwood fitted a steel bullbar and winch to my D3 about 4 months ago - very happy, said it would take 2 weeks to order in and was on the next week.

[grumpa]

I had a similar experience with ARB but spoke to Triumph Rover Spares in Adelaide and they got an ARB for me and did slight mods to fit. Cost $2000 to supply and fit and looks good!

[ARB 4X4 Accessories]

Hi guys, to date, we have had no correspondence from our ARB network to categorically confirm whether or not our bars will fit the petrol D3s, with or without modification.

In light of the discussion on this forum, we've recently sent a memo to our entire network requesting information from stores/stockists who have first hand experience in fitting an ARB bar to a petrol D3, and, what modifications (if any) were required.

If and when this information comes through, we'll be sure to adjust our fitting recommendations.

Cheers, Sam.

[gghaggis]

Hi guys, to date, we have had no correspondence from our ARB network to categorically confirm whether or not our bars will fit the petrol D3s, with or without modification.

In light of the discussion on this forum, we've recently sent a memo to our entire network requesting information from stores/stockists who have first hand experience in fitting an ARB bar to a petrol D3, and, what modifications (if any) were required.

If and when this information comes through, we'll be sure to adjust our fitting recommendations.

Cheers, Sam.

I'd suggest you contact your dealers in the USA - as mentioned earlier in this thread, ALL D3's and D4's over there are petrol.

Cheers,

Gordon

[ARB 4X4 Accessories]

I'd suggest you contact your dealers in the USA - as mentioned earlier in this thread, ALL D3's and D4's over there are petrol.

Cheers,

Gordon

Yep, we're onto it.

[Triplebbb]

Opp LockSouth Road Adelaide fitted the Bar today with no fuss and way cheaper than ARB, thanks to Craig and the boys!!:)