Best Tyres D3 (moved from FAQ)

[Retired727]

HI Guys I have D3 HSE, I'm just about to replace my 2nd set of tyres, both sets have been Goodyear Wranglers, done approx 45000 ks on each set, but out of the 90000 plus ks 50000 ks have been towing a 2.5 ton caravan I'm looking at Toyo, Yokohama or Pirelli. Your thoughts much appreciated
Cheers
Ross:)

[discojools]

Do you have 17s, 18s or 19" wheels? I have 18s on mine and have General Grabber AT2s fitted. They are a little noisy and not alot of grip in the wet but otherwise seem to wear well and no trouble with the dirt rd to my house. I have crossed the Simpson with them. If you are mainly on road there maybe something else less aggressive and therefore not as noisy. Hope that helps.

[WhiteD3]

Very happy with my 18" Pirelli Scorpion ATR's

[DiscoSaffa]

........have General Grabber AT2s fitted. ..........not alot of grip in the wet........

Am about to swap to a set of these (after much thought and discussion), and this statement is a little worrying...... my time is about 50/50 dirt roads/highway....... and not a lot of grip in the wet at highway speed is a worry........

[discojools]

Discosaffa,
Yeah they (AT2s) are not that bad. You won't have a problem.

[djhampson]

I'm not that impressed with the way the General Grabbers have worn espically offroad, they have picked up a lot of nicks and cuts.

I wouldn't recommend them.

[jonesfam]

How do Pirelli ATR's hold up off road, like large rocks on loose gravel?
Having 19" rims I think ATR's are my only after market choice?
Jonesfam
A very confusing subject.

[gghaggis]

How do Pirelli ATR's hold up off road, like large rocks on loose gravel?
Having 19" rims I think ATR's are my only after market choice?
Jonesfam
A very confusing subject.

For 19" AT's, the Pirelli's are your only current option. Apparently Dunlop will be introducing one soon - although it'll fit, it's oversize (at 275/55/19).

The Goodyear MTR's are still available, but a bit more aggressive.

Cheers,

Gordon

[WhiteD3]

I've done 15,000km on my 18" Pirelli ATRs with no dramas at all. Good on anything but mud.

This poll of mine might be of interest.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-zone/80033-18-tyre-poll.html

[rmp]

GG AT2s hang on all right on wet bitumen IMHO.

[chuck]

Gordon

Do you know what type of tread pattern for the Dunlops?

Regards

Chuck

[gghaggis]

Gordon

Do you know what type of tread pattern for the Dunlops?

Regards

Chuck

I'm currently away from the workshop (on holiday) so I don't have the specific info with me, but I believe it's the AT3, a light AT tyre similar to the Pirelli.

Cheers,

Gordon

[DiscoSaffa]

Hi All

I have seen them mentioned briefly in some other threads...... but does anyone have any comments/experience with Continetal Cross Contacts? :confused:

[djhampson]

GG AT2s hang on all right on wet bitumen IMHO.

I agree, after the rain we've had over the last few days I was really impressed. I deliberatly hammered it around a shopping centre roundabout last night and they didn't understeer at all.

[Forest]

I just posted my results of my 18' cross contact in a seperate thread (litteraly just now). If you go off road, I believe they are the way to go. I have chatted with people that have the general grabbers, and I will be sticking with the conti's.

Great all round tyre.

[rmp]

I agree, after the rain we've had over the last few days I was really impressed. I deliberatly hammered it around a shopping centre roundabout last night and they didn't understeer at all.

The stability control would kick in before you got serious understeer.

[djhampson]

True but it didn't kick in. I wasn't going crazy but I was pushing the boundries of what was a sensible speed for the conditions.

[rmp]

In which case as you say it proves they hang on reasonably well. The D3's chassis and 4WD system helps of course. I was just saying the first indication of loss of grip would be the ESC kicking in, not really very noticeable understeer. Like most vehicles the D3 naturally understeers anyway.

[Forest]

I should add, that when on road, I like to run mine at least at 36 psi. I am sure I will got lots of abuse for this post, but I have found that although not as soft as some would like, for handling higher is better. At 100k I run at 40, and that how I like it.

[rmp]

Well mine are at 40 usually so no abuse here.

[DiscoSaffa]

I just posted my results of my 18' cross contact in a seperate thread (litteraly just now). If you go off road, I believe they are the way to go. I have chatted with people that have the general grabbers, and I will be sticking with the conti's.

Great all round tyre.

I was all but sold on the grabbers, but changed my mind last minute to the conti's...... so far very happy although have only had them for a week..... but in that week that have been off road, on road, dry and wet.... aside from being a little noisier than the standard rubber, I am very happy...... oh, and they seem to pick up (and hang on to) a lot of small stones..... but that comes with the territory......

[Verydisco]

Hello,

after two sets of Cooper STs in 245/70R17, I recently fitted BG Goodrich Mud tyres KM/2.

Now with over 15 000Km I can really tell you that they are better off road than the Coopers since the are MT Vs AT for the Cooper.

Though the BF are as good as the Cooper on the tarmac and even seem to wear out a bit slowly.

Indeed now i'd recommand the BFs, whereas I use to recommand the cooper since they are pretty good themselves (though were the only one availble for 17" LR rims when the D3 came out)

cheers

[discojools]

Verydisco,
Did you fit 245/70/17 KM2s?

Discojools

[DiscoWeb]

DiscoSaffa,

I like the sound of the conti's, I for one would appreicate it if you keep us updated on their performance throught one of your regular AULRO twitters.

MY 2008 D3 came with a set of the conti UHP Cross contact . Very nice on the road but not designed for any serious off road ? I have of course taken them off road a few times and the tread is getting a bit cut up and with nearly 27,000 kms I am strating to consider my trye options.

Has anyone tried the Cooper Zeon LTZ, they come in a 285/60R18 with a load index of 120s. Not sure on pricing and probably outside the legal 15mm increase however they look, and sound from the marketing guff like a high performance ATR if that makes any sense.

At the momnt I am bouncing between the Pirelli ATR, Cooper HT or possible Cooper ATR and or the Conti's ATR.

Still a few thousand Km's till I have to make the decision, unless I damage the currnt ones beyond repair in my next few off road trips.

George
TDV6

[gghaggis]

If you want to stick to a legal size, consider the Mickey Thompson 5-rib ATZ in 245/70/17. They're probably one of the best AT tyres you'll get in that size for the D3. If you're willing to go up to 265/70/17, look at the 4-rib version - closest you'll get to an MT without buying an MT.

Cheers,

Gordon

[DiscoSaffa]

DiscoSaffa,

I like the sound of the conti's, I for one would appreicate it if you keep us updated on their performance throught one of your regular AULRO twitters.

Hi George

Only done a few km on them but, for what it is worth, here are my initial impressions.

To date I have driven them on road (obviously) wet and dry, and on our construction site which could be considered light 4x4 (you can’t get around in a 4x2, but it doesn’t come close to testing the D3’s capability) and so far so good.

They are noisier than the standard rubber, but unless it is on your radar, you wouldn’t really notice. Grip on road, wet (some VERY wet) and dry is good. Grip on dirt roads is good, they struggle a little in gummy mud. One issue that I have is that they pick up stones for nothing, but that is to be expected with the aggressive tread (about the most aggressive I have seen on an AT). They also look pretty good…….. :D

Fuel consumption seems to be up a little, but that could just as easily be the sort of driving I have done since I have fitted them (no long distance cruising as yet).

Will keep the updates coming as time goes by.

DS

[DiscoWeb]

gghaggis,

Do Mickey Thompson do 18's.

Might have been my oversight below but I am on 18 inch rims, I do not do enough off road to justify a separate set of 17 inch rims so not sure the MT's are an option.

George.

[gghaggis]

gghaggis,

Do Mickey Thompson do 18's.

George.

Oops - sorry, my mistake. Got confused with VeryDisco's post. No, they don't do an 18" that will fit.

Cheers,

Gordon

[DiscoSaffa]

I should probably have said something about the thinking in deciding on the Contis.

Like you George, I don’t do enough off road work to warrant 17 inch rims, which limited me to either the General Grabbers, the Pirelli ATRs or the Contis. I had all but decided on the grabbers, but local availability narrowed it down to the Pirellis or the Contis. I didn’t like the outer tread pattern on the Pirellis because it is almost “closed”, and I had seen some reports on here that in the wet, once worn a bit, they weren’t great. Price wise the Contis also won out, so decision made.

I was a bit apprehensive because of lack of information and experience of the tyre here on the forum. In the end I came across this thread:

Continental Cross Contact AT - Any thoughts? (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/67953-continental-cross-contact-any-thoughts.html)

Job done

DS

[shining]

The Conti website only shows the ATs in 15 and 16 inch. I assumed from the thread that you were on 18s. What wheels are you running?

[DiscoWeb]

Shining,

Not sure exactly what wheels but they are round and came with the car ?, seriously they are the standard 18 inch alloys that came with a 2008 D3, not sure exactly what type.

Trivett at Alexandria have or had a Conti cross contact AT displayed in their service area last time they stole my money for a servcie and they look fairly aggressive as noted by discosaffa, might have to invest in a set of mud flaps if they do spit stones as noted.

George

[shining]

I went with the Scorpion ATRs. Much improved ride and feel over Cooper HT+ but these were clapped out and badly scrubbed as the wheel alignment had not been looked after by the previous owner. I wanted to go back to OEM sizes (Coopers were 265s) as the spare was still new and a 255. Have only been on dirt and bitumen as yet but so far so good.

Cheers,
Steve.

[AnD3rew]

I have 18" GG AT2's on my D3 since new and have done about 9 thousand k, now. About 5000 of that is on highways, most of the rest on suburban bitumen, but it has also done a reasonale bit of dirt road, some extreme offroad in very hilly loose dirt and rock, some deep mud and some sand.

Overall I can't fault the tyres, I have had no punctures, they have performed very well in all situations and I havent been stuck or bogged even once, they handle just fine on wet bitumen, I have never experienced any loss of traction in normal wet bitumen driving. So far they seem to be wearing fine, but probably a bit early to tell.

They are slightly noisy on bitumen, but it is not intrusive and the sound system is awesome, so I just turn it up. I think it is virtualy impossible to get a set of AT's that are worth having in the rough that don't increase your road noise a little bit.

So far no complaints whatsoever.

[DiscoSaffa]

The Conti website only shows the ATs in 15 and 16 inch. I assumed from the thread that you were on 18s. What wheels are you running?

Website needs updating, I seem to remember that I found the same thing when I was looking for info.

I am running the standard 18 inch rims and tyres are the standard size, 255/60-18 if memory serves.

[shining]

Website needs updating, I seem to remember that I found the same thing when I was looking for info.

.

The old adage of garbage in/garbage out still applies :p

[DiscoSaffa]

The old adage of garbage in/garbage out still applies :p

So very true...... although one would expect better of a world wide brand like Conti........ :confused:

[DiscoSaffa]

......might have to invest in a set of mud flaps if they do spit stones as noted.

They don't so much spit them, as hang onto the darn things...... drive off the dirt onto bitumen and you sound like the Wallabies and Springboks running down the tunnel at Kings Park Stadium in their studs……..

On that subject, and assuming that if the tyres hang on to the stones, at some point they are gonna spit them (never follow me down the highway!) do you get front mud flaps for the D3?

[DiscoWeb]

you sound like the Wallabies and Springboks running down the tunnel at Kings Park Stadium in their studs……..


what a great analogy, I have heard that sound up close at Ellis Park, do not recall the result however ?

Conti's are sounding better all the time.

George

[djambalawa]

Gday folks - I have 18" rims and would like to buy a set (probably 6) of 17" rims and BFG KM2s for an offroad set... doing a Gibb River Rd trip soon up to Mitchel Plateau etc and just feel better with a bit more air between me and the road :)

I saw some posts here a fair while ago about what kind of rims etc but can't find them...

Just wondering if anyone has suggestions of a supplier to look after me with these - would get them freighted to Darwin (unless someone knows an ok Darwin supplier).

I have an 07 D3 TDV6.

[trobbo]

Dynamic do a steel rim for the D3. not sure if you can fit d2 rims.

Dynamic 4x4, Simex 4x4, Sime 4x4, General tire, Dynamic Wheels, Sime, Grabber, Extreme Trekker, Wheels (http://www.dynamictyres.com.au/html/s02_article/article_view.asp?id=147&nav_cat_id=160&nav_top_id=55)

[DDdisco]

Has anyone tried the Yokohama Geolander A/T-S in 265/60 18?
Yokohama / OUR TYRES / Geolandar A/T-S (http://www.yokohama.com.au/ourtyres/tyre.aspx'tyreid=204)

They look like they have a bit of aggression to them but claim to be quiet on the road too. I've had Yokos on a Triton before and was very happy with them.

[chuck]

Has anyone tried the BF Goodrich all Terrain ATKO in 265 x 65 x 18 on a D3.

Regards

Chuck

[djhampson]

BFG don't have that size on their Australian website. Wonder if we can get it shipped in?

[chuck]

They are not on their website but are available.
Fiendishly expensive but I am checking out importing directly from the US.
At this stage this equates to about $330 per tyre including freight against approx $550.00 from Australia.

Regards

Chuck

[Graeme]

Has anyone tried the BF Goodrich all Terrain ATKO in 265 x 65 x 18 on a D3.

Regards

Chuck
Not personnally, but from the reports on a D3 these would be my first choice if I can get 18" rims that fit my D4.

[Forest]

As long as you never want to use snow chains.......

[chuck]

I thought you could still fit chains if you went to a max of 265mm wide.

Regards

Chuck

[trobbo]

i can feel a group buy coming along. :angel:

5 please :D

[chuck]

I got some firmer pricing from Tire Rack today.

265 x 65 x 18 BF Goodrich All Terrain (true all terrain & light truck)
$246.00 ea x 5 = $1230.

+ freight (Fed Ex)$ 363.28 (5-6 days ex US)

Sub total $ 1593.28

+ 10% exchange rate $160.00 approx

Should be about $1760.00 landed in AUS.

If you ship in 2 consignments avoids GST

I was quoted $550.00 each at Bob Jane - Preston.

Significant savings!!!

Can anyone see a problem with the size?

regards

Chuck

[Graeme]

IIRC (& often I don't!) they can rub on the raised section at the front of the rear inner guard where it budges to make room for the protective metal guard for the rear a/c and/or heater hoses. The metal guards can be hammered flat and the plastic slit and welded flat if you don't have rear a/c & heater.

Will total freight cost be the same if the shipment is split?

[chuck]

Graeme

Thanks - I don't have rear air so that sounds good.

I will enquire more about splitting consignments shortly.

Regards

Chuck

[gghaggis]

IIRC (& often I don't!) they can rub on the raised section at the front of the rear inner guard where it budges to make room for the protective metal guard for the rear a/c and/or heater hoses. The metal guards can be hammered flat and the plastic slit and welded flat if you don't have rear a/c & heater.


'as he said - been there, done that .....

Cheers,

Gordon

[ADMIRAL]

I got some firmer pricing from Tire Rack today.

265 x 65 x 18 BF Goodrich All Terrain (true all terrain & light truck)
$246.00 ea x 5 = $1230.

+ freight (Fed Ex)$ 363.28 (5-6 days ex US)

Sub total $ 1593.28

+ 10% exchange rate $160.00 approx

Should be about $1760.00 landed in AUS.

If you ship in 2 consignments avoids GST

I was quoted $550.00 each at Bob Jane - Preston.

Significant savings!!!

Can anyone see a problem with the size?

regards

Chuck

Ummm...Who fits them. Using the sandwich analogy. If you walk into a sandwich shop with a loaf of bread, and a roll of ham, and ask them to make you lunch, what reception do you think is on offer ?

[rmp]

Not an issue...if you're polite, pay the full f+b fee, chuck in an alignment as well then they're ahead on the deal. Never been a problem in the past.

[mattbuzz77]

I would be interest in purchasing 4 x BFG AT-KO All Terrain tyres from the tire rack in the USA for delivery to Gold Coast.

Chuck - would freight be any cheaper for 1 order of say 9 tyres (5 for you and 4 for me) to be delivered to 2 addresses in Aust?

Cheers,
Matt

[chuck]

Matt

It is definitely cheaper to import 5 tyres than 2 consignments of 2 & 3.
If we were both in the same city I am sure the freight would be cheaper for nine tyres to one location.
I got a second price for the BFG's in Melbourne today - $500.00 supplied fitted & balanced.

Regards

Chuck

[ADMIRAL]

Not an issue...if you're polite, pay the full f+b fee, chuck in an alignment as well then they're ahead on the deal. Never been a problem in the past.

That's good. As long as everything is up front, I would guess they know what they are getting out of it.

[mattbuzz77]

Hi Chuck,

I just got a price from Tire Rack. Delivery for 4 tyres is US$298. BFG All Terrrains in 265/65/18 are $246. So delivered for 4 tyres is US$1,282 or around AUD$1,410. I currently run 20inch RRS Stormer wheels for around town daily driving and want to use the 18inch standard alloys as my off road rims. I am also considering changing to a 17in rim so I can get some BFG Mud Terrains in 245/75/17. Price is US$196 a tyre. So around $1,190 delivered. Bargain. Most of my off road driving is on Moreton, Fraser and North Straddie so lots of sand work.

Would I be best going for a BFG All terrain or the muddies? Any thoughts anyone?

Cheers,
Matt


Matt

It is definitely cheaper to import 5 tyres than 2 consignments of 2 & 3.
If we were both in the same city I am sure the freight would be cheaper for nine tyres to one location.
I got a second price for the BFG's in Melbourne today - $500.00 supplied fitted & balanced.

Regards

Chuck

[Dirty3]

Why the heck does it cost so much when our dollar is almost even stevens with the US dollar.....methinks the tyre dealers are not passing on the savings? Maybe with a little bargaining you might be able to do better here? $500 for a tyre.....man it would have to be special for that. Isn't it funny how as the wheel sizes go up, so do the tyre prices.....it's like computers and memory/power, as it goes up, so does the price......think about it, no more rubber but you pay more for the privilege. Maybe the car makers are in cahoots with the tyre manufacturers? Hey we'll release a new model.....let's increase the wheel size, next D5? will it have 22 inch wheels?

[chuck]

Hedley,

What is even worse is that I enquired with Goodyear Customer Service about placing a special order for a set of MTR's that are not available in the size I want in Australia although readily available in the US.
They wanted twice as much for a tyre than I can buy off a retailer in the US & then they quoted me $700.00 sea freight with 5 month delivery when tyre rack quoted me $380.00 air freight with 5 day service.

Now that is a rip off.

Regards

Chuck

[Neil P]

I was quoted USD430 for a set of Offrovering sliders to BNE from SF
by sea ; upto 75 days . 2@85kg in reo boxes for folk lift. There's alot
of folks markups in this game.
Pacific Tyre Group are ***** with a monopoly .
They fight dirty to stop any retailer who imports tyres
to distribute themselves , by threatening the US manufactures
with an distribution embargo/alternative brand promotion to
damage them. Guy in Cairns tried this a couple of years ago ,
and the US Supplier halted the deal after 1st shipment. Pacific
found out and the intimidation of US supplier began.
I was informed of this by a tyre wholesaler in FNQ
There should be a gouging case against this Mob.
Our entire Nation is being stiffed !

[Neil P]

.....methinks the tyre dealers are not passing on the savings?

You'll find that the price is not being passed on by the importer.
I personally know several importers in BNE , and only one is not
pocketing the huge profits of a strong Aussie . For those of you
wondering,their price goes up when the Aussie declines . They have
it both ways , and a very nice living too , thankyou !
4x4 drivers are seen as Cash Cows . Service costs are no different
in this respect either . 500 Bucks plus , for a can of oil and a filter.
They're taking the **** . All these leased vehicles and the inclusive
services don't help the cause whatsoever.
Bottom line ; no one needs to buy these , it's our choice.
Pity we don't have the same situation for government. I didn't
vote for this ; I'm not paying !

[DiscoSaffa]

Hi George

Only done a few km on them but, for what it is worth, here are my initial impressions.

To date I have driven them on road (obviously) wet and dry, and on our construction site which could be considered light 4x4 (you can’t get around in a 4x2, but it doesn’t come close to testing the D3’s capability) and so far so good.

They are noisier than the standard rubber, but unless it is on your radar, you wouldn’t really notice. Grip on road, wet (some VERY wet) and dry is good. Grip on dirt roads is good, they struggle a little in gummy mud. One issue that I have is that they pick up stones for nothing, but that is to be expected with the aggressive tread (about the most aggressive I have seen on an AT). They also look pretty good…….. :D

Fuel consumption seems to be up a little, but that could just as easily be the sort of driving I have done since I have fitted them (no long distance cruising as yet).

Will keep the updates coming as time goes by.

DS

Just to follow up on this post. Done near enough 2000km on the tyres now and still think the Contis are great, all the comments above still stand, great in the wet and dry, on or off the road.

The minor annoyance of small stones still remains, the tread picks up and hangs onto small stones. Aside from the annoying sound it makes, they start to throw them at high speed (never drive close behind a grey D3 in the Northern Rivers area of NSW :o). Hopefully as they wear a little and the tread is not so deep this will stop.......

To close out the fuel consumption comment...... my initial impression was that the contis were using more fuel...... with a few more kms under the belt, it would seem I was wrong..... if anything they are using less....... :)

Depending on the mileage I get out of them, they will be replaced with the same when the time comes. :D

[TerryO]

I got some firmer pricing from Tire Rack today.

265 x 65 x 18 BF Goodrich All Terrain (true all terrain & light truck)
$246.00 ea x 5 = $1230.

+ freight (Fed Ex)$ 363.28 (5-6 days ex US)

Sub total $ 1593.28

+ 10% exchange rate $160.00 approx

Should be about $1760.00 landed in AUS.

If you ship in 2 consignments avoids GST

I was quoted $550.00 each at Bob Jane - Preston.

Significant savings!!!

Can anyone see a problem with the size?

regards

Chuck


Hi Chuck,

Just wondering if you did end up getting a set of BFG's from the US or not?

Cheers,
Terry

[chuck]

Terry

I have not purchased the tyres yet, still weighing up some options, including some leads for purchase in Australia.

Will probably buy just before the end of the financial year.

Hankook may have some options with their new all terrain & mud terrain.

Also waiting for some possible suspension option to cater for larger tyres ie 275 x 65 x 18.

It seems that the new Code of practice may be adopted in victoria thus making a 50mm lift & 50 mm bigger tyres legal.

So given the above the wait suits me at the moment.

Will post when I have more info.

Regards

Chuck

[TerryO]

Hi Chuck,

I must admit I hadn't looked at the Hankook ATM's, but after your comment I went and checked them out.

Another reason I considered looking at the Hankooks for the D2 was I also had to order some new 255 x 60 x 18's for the wifes Rexton as at 104 ks the final two oem fitted Hankooks needed to be replaced. The front two wore out at 87 k. I replaced them with Kumho's as they were the only reasonably priced tyre in the right size I could get here in Goulburn. Well the Kumho's will need to be replaced in another 5000 ks so they have lasted bugger all and were no better tyre then the Hankooks.

So after I read about 100 + comments on various 4x4 websites around the world on the Hankook ATM's I found that 99% were very positive. I even found a website that had back to backed them with BFG A/Ts and Toyo A/Ts on very similar modified D1 Disco's. Some of the pictures showed them giving all the tyres a reasonable bashing in a rock garden. They rated the Hankooks as being as good if not better in some instances then the BFG's and quieter on road and better in the wet. They didn't say much about the Toyo's.

So I have ordered five of them for the D2a to be fitted this Saturday, they are the same size as the ones you are thinking of, being 275 x 65 x 18. At the very reasonable (meaning very cheap compared to other 18" A/T's) price if they are anywhere near as good as the BFG's A/T's that I'm used to on my highly modified D1 then I'll be extremely happy.

And chances are if they are like with the other Hankooks I had on the Rexton they will last some very big miles.

I guess time will tell how good the Hankooks are but I can't wait to get the Good Year Wranglers off of the old girl as they really are rubbish.

cheers,
Terry

[chuck]

Terry,

Any chance of a ball park figure & a link to those reviews.

I did have some 33" muddies on a 60 series GXL many years ago & come to think of it they were very good.

Thanks

Chuck

[gps-au]

I'm thinking its probably time for "rmp" to do a size/pattern/availability chart soon....

Maybe this time a separate one for LT construction ??

[Disco4SE]

Hey Chuck, found the link Welcome to Hankook Tyre Australia Website (http://www.hankooktyre.com.au/Product/product_main.aspx?pageNum=1&subNum=1&ChildNum=1&FnCode=01)
They look alright

[rmp]

I'm thinking its probably time for "rmp" to do a size/pattern/availability chart soon....

Maybe this time a separate one for LT construction ??

I've had enough pain on that front for a while ;-)

[TerryO]

Hi Chuck,

below is the link to the article I mentioned with the comparision.


BFGoodrich Hankook Dynapro Toyo Open Country Tires - 4-Wheel & Off-Road Magazine (http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/wheels/131_0903_hankook_toyo_bfgoodrich_all_terrain_tires/index.html)

There are plenty of forums discussing these tyres just Goggle them and take your pick.

Regarding price I didn't bother to haggle to much or even ring around given some of the exorbitant prices I've seen quoted for other 18" All Terrains that are usually very close to standard OEM sizes and are usually more road orientated then these Hankooks.

I'm just happy that I have found a local retailer that can sell me a All Terrain tyre that is the actual size that I was looking for being 275 x 65 x 18's (32") for only $260 each fitted ($1300 for five). This price seems pretty good to me given the reviews and comments I'd read on various websites and forums and as they were purchased locally there is a warranty if there are any problems.

I guess time will tell if I made a wise purchase or not.

cheers,
Terry

[TerryO]

Sorry to say I still have the poxy old out of round Wranglers on the D2. I decided to take with me on Saturday a worn 285 x 75 x 16 (33") BFG All Terrain that had come off of my D1 to compare to the 275 x 65 x 18 (32") new Hankook tyres, so I could compare actual sizes. As I had been told that I might get a surprize at their actual size, especially width.

Well I put them side by side and there was no difference in height or width even though their should have been. In fact in width they actually looked bigger.
As 33's won't fit on a standard height D2 and these supposed 32's were every bit as big as 33's I decided not to go ahead with fitting them.

So back to the drawing board for now.

cheers,
Terry

[trobbo]

Hi TerryO, how did you measure the tyre sizes?

I have found that my 285 X 75 X 16 BFG A/T's are substantially smaller than most other tyres in that size once I have measured them. Using a visual comparison can be misleading and so I use a piece of string to run around the circumference of the tyre.

Tyre size will also change stlightly depending on what size rim the tyre is fitted to. A fat tyre squeezed onto a narrow rim will be taller than when fitted to a wide rim.

[gghaggis]

I had a set of these (Interco SSR) fitted to the 17" D3 alloys. The placard size was 265/70/R17, which calculates out to 31.6", but the measured size was 32.5"

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/05/1523.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/17452)

These were the most aggressive tyres I have fitted to a D3. They just fitted on my D3, but that was with the ARB bull bar. You'd need to trim the internal plastic wheel-well liner otherwise.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/01/118.jpg (http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/17453)

Cheers,

Gordon

[TerryO]

Hi Trobbo,

no I admit that I didn't measure the tyres exactly to see what measured what.

What I had done, which I know is not exact science either, was put the same BFG alongside the wheel on the D2 and it filled the guard completely.
Given that the Hankook looks as big if not bigger when side by side with the BFG 33" I decided that I would go no further until I knew exactly what the go was, as once the tyres were fitted I would own them whether they fitted or not.

I did pick up a set of four original D2 16" steel wheels on the weekend while up in Newcastle that I brought on ebay a couple of weeks ago as spares for a set of muddies, for more serious off road playing in the D2, so I might for now fit up some tyres on them until I resolve what to do with the 18's.

I'd do just about anythng to get rid of the poxy Wranglers.

cheers,
Terry

[trobbo]

I'm with you there Terry, that and finding a good mud tyre for the 18's on the D3.

Perhaps I will have to succumb to the enevitable and fit 17's to expand my tyre options and live with forever changing wheels.

tony robbo

[TerryO]

The other option I'm considering is just going down the BF Goodrich All Terrain 265 x 65 x 18 direction.

Has anyone fitted this size BFG All Terrains to their 18's?

cheers,
Terry

[jonesy63]

Has anyone tried the Yokohama Geolander A/T-S in 265/60 18?
Yokohama / OUR TYRES / Geolandar A/T-S (http://www.yokohama.com.au/ourtyres/tyre.aspx'tyreid=204)

They look like they have a bit of aggression to them but claim to be quiet on the road too. I've had Yokos on a Triton before and was very happy with them.Hi DDisco,

Yes - I am on my 2nd set of them, as I liked the first set so much. I got 25,000km out of original Wranglers, then changed to Yokohamas. I changed them after about 60,000km for another set. I kept the two rear ones for spares, as they still had a bit of meat in the tread. I'm now at 94,000 km and they're still like new.

I also have a set of Dynamic steel 17" with BFG MT KM2s for serious work.

I think this is a great combination - Yokos for everyday and weekends away - quieter, better in wet/dry/offroad than Wranglers; and BFG MT for hard core trips.

Cheers,
Rob

[DDdisco]

Thanks Rob. The Wranglers are getting close to the end of their life. Something else to think about.