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M.Allison
28th February 2010, 05:11 PM
Hey guys,

Ok so heres the thing i need a new 4wd and i only want it for offroading...i have had to retire my p38 range. (p38 thread)

now im looking into getting all different makes and models of 4wd im not staying with landrover...i still might get a landrover just not sure.

here is what im trying to achieve..small maintence ie.cheap parts, i want something that i can easily put a 4" lift on and big mud tires. i also want something that is half decent with fuel economy which isnt really a must as ill only be taking it off road.

however one thing that is a must..A STRONG DIFF! and must have a little bit of power to get me through things.

i like the thought of a turbo diesel..but thats probably because ive never owned one. also i like basic so electronics is a luxury if its there yay but if not then im not gonna cry over spilt milk :D

kindest Regards,

Mike

p.s ill still be keeping the p38 ill just be making it into a touring vehicle.

justinc
28th February 2010, 05:25 PM
Sounds like you need a chipped Td5 110 Defender.

Pretty simple, good on fuel, more torque than a V8, strong diffs and axles (To a point, but easily upgraded) and a bulletproof chassis etc.

AND you can virtually hose it out:D

JC

Blknight.aus
28th February 2010, 05:27 PM
so that'd be a series with a new donk, A county with a turbo, a perentie Or a deefer out to about 2002/early03 then.

ok seriously

what size are you looking for, how much effort do you want to make and what do you want to spend?

Sleepy
28th February 2010, 05:29 PM
For my 2 bobs worth - and remembering this is a LR site ;)

I would suggest a Late D1, auto with tdi. _ pick up a nice one for say 10 grand

Front and rear lockers.
Strengthened axles
2 inch body lift
2 inch spring lift.
Cut guards
Get the tdi worked - - you get more out of it. (Intercooler etc)

Depending on how "basic" you want to go, you could also think about a County Isuzu or 300tdi Defender.

Lots of options though :angel:

M.Allison
28th February 2010, 05:46 PM
ok shoulda been more specific my price range is around 8k....i really only want to use it as an offroad thing.

mike

DEFENDERZOOK
28th February 2010, 05:52 PM
ah....well....in that case.....a gq on lpg.......

PAT303
28th February 2010, 06:01 PM
ok shoulda been more specific my price range is around 8k....i really only want to use it as an offroad thing.

mike

So you want an unbreakable 4WD with 35'' tyres,4'' lift,cheap to fix,cheap to run and only want to spend 8K?,good luck. Pat

Blknight.aus
28th February 2010, 06:17 PM
I was going to sugggest a suzuki..

rovercare
28th February 2010, 06:23 PM
ah....well....in that case.....a gq on lpg.......

Pretty much that

I'd be looking to buy something built to be honest

Actually a mate of mine will be selling a GQ shorty on 35's, fresh auto and 355 stroker, 10:1, balanced etc....may need to chip a few more k in, but its sorted:D

Alot of tough rangies sell for that figure and less, just wait for something to pop up

Michael2
28th February 2010, 06:24 PM
Defender 300Tdi Trayback Ute (alloy tray)

(1) Electrickery proof Turbo Diesel (You can tweak the pump and add a bigger intercooler)
(2) Fuel Economy / Range
(3) Cheap Parts
(4) Hardly any panels to damage
(5) Bush ready
(6) Within Budget
(7) Salisbury Rear Diff - include strengthened axles & flanges + difflocks if you like.
(8) Light weight / full size
(9) Excellent Suspension / Articulation *
(10) A trayback is an easy configuration for a off-road only vehicle, it allows easy access to under the vehicle (with room for water tanks etc), it allows dirty recovery gear to be easily thrown on.


* You may need to rethink the 4" lift. A Defender has so much axle articulation that 2" is heaps. More than that, it gets more expensive to get longer shocks, trailing arms etc. 2" also make it insurable. If you want a 4" lift, why not consider a 110 on air bags, you can keep the standard height to access, egress, loading and getting under fallen trees, and you can pump it up to 4" when required. That way the taller suspension settings won't affect on-road handling.

McDisco
28th February 2010, 06:32 PM
So you want an unbreakable 4WD with 35'' tyres,4'' lift,cheap to fix,cheap to run and only want to spend 8K?,good luck. Pat

I dont know...I got my Rangie for about $8k....with all the goodies! Its on LPG so its cheap to run...

My advice is to to buy someone elses toy. Its the cheapest way to get into things. Sure it might have been treated rough, but if its built tough it should be fine. :twisted:

Angus

Chucaro
28th February 2010, 06:33 PM
I was going to sugggest a suzuki..

or a Subaru Brumby :)

McDisco
28th February 2010, 06:41 PM
or a Subaru Brumby :)

:lol2::Rolling: But seriously, I have seen some Brumby's in some interesting places!

How about this one? Looks tough -http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic202242.php

Sleepy
28th February 2010, 06:48 PM
or a Subaru Brumby :)

Ah, now there's a fun car.
No so sure how it would go with a 4 inch lift and 35" tyres. :o

Sleepy
28th February 2010, 06:50 PM
:lol2::Rolling: But seriously, I have seen some Brumby's in some interesting places!
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I drove one to the tip in 1986 - up the telgraph track. You had to be careful but it was stronger and more capable than you think.

robzilla
28th February 2010, 06:54 PM
in SA, but this would be cool

My Hilux Turbo DIesel - Hardtuned.net (http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.php'showtopic=431674)

whyatts
28th February 2010, 08:43 PM
those suzuki's or daihatsu's seem very popular and both have low range

Tank
1st March 2010, 09:04 AM
ok shoulda been more specific my price range is around 8k....i really only want to use it as an offroad thing.

mike
I have a 4L V8 (2003MY) with simple 3.5 electronic dissy and EFI Fuel system 93 Disco, Auto, 94 diffs and axles (fine spline), alloy B/bar, alloy wheels, ARB rear bar, extractors, 21/2" exhaust, 135L fuel tank for $5K, Pink Slip, 6 months rego, Regards Frank.

Cap
1st March 2010, 12:55 PM
I have a 4L V8 (2003MY) with simple 3.5 electronic dissy and EFI Fuel system 93 Disco, Auto, 94 diffs and axles (fine spline), alloy B/bar, alloy wheels, ARB rear bar, extractors, 21/2" exhaust, 135L fuel tank for $5K, Pink Slip, 6 months rego, Regards Frank.

Wow- there ya go... and its still LR :) :)

Ace
1st March 2010, 02:57 PM
:lol2::Rolling: But seriously, I have seen some Brumby's in some interesting places!

How about this one? Looks tough -Outer Limits 4x4 Board :: Log in (http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic202242.php)

i have seen corolla's in interesting places. Its suprising where you can get a stolen car :Rolling::lol2:

I reckon a nice cheap early model Tdi, put some stronger axles, a detroit auto locker and fit A 2in body and 2in suspension lift, as suggested above.

But for 8k it will be stretching it. If its only for 4wding you would get a cheap V8 disco or rangie and have about $5000 left for accessories.