Mick's 101 Projects

[Mick_Marsh]

No, I don't have 101 projects, I have two.

Here is one you may not know I have.
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The other is here
Australian Land Rover Owners (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mick_marsh-albums-my+101+gun+tractor.html)

They're stalled at the moment but you can help.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-items-wanted/96576-101-rear-body.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-items-wanted/96575-101-hoodsticks.html

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-items-wanted/96577-101-rear-bumperettes.html

I would like to drive one of them to Corowa next year so I'll pull my finger out over winter.
I don't think the first one (101-1) needs much to get roadworthy. The other one needs more work (101-2). I have just sourced some new brake and clutch fluid reservoirs for them. Next will be new tyres. I'm looking for those funny little flaps for the spare wheel also. Two of them.

Well. What do you think?

PS Pete. Can you change the title of my album to "My 101 Rapier Tractor" please?

[101RRS]

So it was you who bought that tourist bus that was on Carsales some time back. Did it come with the bits to change it back to a normal 101 and how is it?

Garry

[THE BOOGER]

I have been looking for 1 that i could afford and you have 2 not happy jan:D

[Mick_Marsh]

Yes. Cats out of the bag now.
Yes it came with bits. I have the original tray and hoodsticks. It looks genuine low km (about 76000) and appears to be in very good condition apart from surface rust on the chassis, rusty door frames etc. I think this is the one I'll be restoring to "in service".
It was an adventure collecting it.

But I'm still after bits for 101-2

[Mick_Marsh]

Geoff,
I have a problem. This forum helps me deal with it.
I'd quite like to have a series one and I've got my eye on one.
You too can have a problem like mine. You can afford one. Don't look at the price tag. If the want is strong enough, get a loan and buy it.
I know where there are a couple more 101's I'd like to have. You should buy at least one of them so I can't then my family, friends and neighbours would be grateful to you. We can discuss this further at Corowa.

[Shonky]

So you're coming to Corowa then, Mick? :D

[Mick_Marsh]

Yes. I've got this disease real bad now. I've got to get my fix.
If I don't see other ex-mil vehicles, I'l probably buy another.

Corowa, Is it like an AA meeting?

[Shonky]

Corowa, Is it like an AA meeting?

It's like an AA meeting with an open bar!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Yes. I've got this disease real bad now. I've got to get my fix.
If I don't see other ex-mil vehicles, I'l probably buy another.

Corowa, Is it like an AA meeting?No I don't think they have Anti-Aircraft weapons. Something to do with there being an airport.

However a few ex-Air Defence Battery 101's have been known to come! :cool:

In relation to a 12 step program, you just need to remember the first few steps.

1. I came to understand that my green stuff had become unmanageable.

2. Even with unmanageable green stuff, space can always be found for 1 more!

[Phoenix]

So come on, cough up the other chassis number ;)

[Mick_Marsh]

No I don't think they have Anti-Aircraft weapons. Something to do with there being an airport.

However a few ex-Air Defence Battery 101's have been known to come! :cool:

In relation to a 12 step program, you just need to remember the first few steps.

1. I came to understand that my green stuff had become unmanageable.

2. Even with unmanageable green stuff, space can always be found for 1 more!

I'm having trouble with the 2nd step. I've started storing them at other peoples places.
How are you off for space? Any spare? What address do I send the next one to?


PS Yes Richard. I'll be handing in the homework late.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I'm having trouble with the 2nd step. I've started storing them at other peoples places.
How are you off for space? Any spare? What address do I send the next one to?


PS Yes Richard. I'll be handing in the homework late.I currently have vehicles in my back yard, side driveway, out on the street, at the farm there are three the truck shed, in three of the four horse stalls (the 4th has a 4.6V8-R380/LT230 and a 1595cc engine), 1 SIIB and a Perentie 6X6 passenger body in the hay shed. A Mk3 Inter, an ex-SADF SIIB, 2 army trailers and a RRC body frame in a friends chook shed, another stage one up at Colo Heights. In fact there is also a SIIA FFW over in Nungarin W.A, another SIII in South Nowra, a FFT tub at Sanctuary Point.

I'm sure we can find more space.

What was the third step again?

[Mick_Marsh]

THIRD STEP

give in and buy a property with plenty of shedding
I'm looking for one now.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

THIRD STEP

give in and buy a property with plenty of shedding
I'm looking for one now.Yeah I just have to stop dad farming so I can have the tractor shed as well! :p

[LR V8]

Title change done Mick - only just noticed your request, sorry about that.

Pete

[Mick_Marsh]

This thread will be used by me to keep tabs on the advice you very helpful persons give me.
OK. So basically I have still done nothing to the 101's since the last post.
I've been busy with a new job and the Mercedes.

I have been, however, trying to source some Michelins through Costco. I'll be wanting ten.
This leads me into Paint.
I'll be wanting to clean and paint the rims before I put the new tyres on. While I'm at it, I'll get some other parts painted. What paint do I use? What paint have you used, why and what have your experiences been?
I've found this thread
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-technical/95411-more-olive-drab-paint-info.html


I spent the morning crawling over 30-248's motor trying to find the engine no. DoTSA have on record.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/fcs-military-variations/95326-engine-vin-no-locations-101-a.html
I've found the correct, original engine number in the correct location but that's not the one DoTSA has on record. I need to buy a pressure washer and “give it a gurnie”. I just have to find the engine number that starts with an “S” for the DoTSA paperwork.
While there I took a few pictures so I updated my albums
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mick_marsh-albums.html
I noticed under the paint on the door there are ridges. I can just make out the christmas tree symbol. Above the christmas tree symbol I can just make out some numbers 5484 about two inches high. Does anyone know the significance of these?


I have committed to have a 101 going to Corowa 2011. I think Dave Jump witnessed that statement.


Regards
Mick

[101RRS]

What tyres are you getting from Costco?

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

The XZL's
Apparently there are only eight in the country at the moment but they'll be getting new stock soon. Costco don't usually sell these but I've been talking to the manager of the tyre dept. and he said he will see what he can do for me.

[UncleHo]

G'day Mick_Marsh :)

Sorry to come in late to this thread,but I have just read through the saga of 30-248, and I might be able to shed some light on the subject, in the 80's or early 90's there were a couple of these 101's converted into tourist offroad buses,with hand built bodies, these predated the OKA's and it is from the 101's that the OKA idea stemmed, this vehicle could well be one of those hand built buses, hence the SA dept fixation on a bus,the engine number should be the same as is listed in the REMLR files, or very close to it,the "S" could well be a mis-read "6" or the "9" (dirt in the stamped No) {well! that's close enough} if it is the "6" then the "9" will be ahead, or if it is the "9" the the next number will be a 6 then 100675 with an "A" suffix, if the motor was changed to another 3.5 then the number would start with 18 or 22 "G" ******** or if it is a Rangie motor could have **"D"***** or the early ones 5*******

Also, just above the engine No is the Compression Ratio, either 8.13:1 or 9.35:1 if this has been confused with the Eng No then the 8 has been read as an "S" this may require the left manifold removal and the correct number being sighted by your local police officer,and him to endorse it on a statuary decaration which you then present to SA Transport Dept

There was at one stage a 101 with the powered trailer (Aust Army test vehicle that was with a 4x4 tour company in WA as their chuck wagon it had a 350ci Chevie V8 in it, I last heard of it when it was for sale in "Just 4 X 4 mag for $100,000+:eek: less trailer,

hope that is of some help

cheers

[Mick_Marsh]

Thankyou UncleHo, that info was very helpful.
Were the tourist buses an army thing or a civy thing?
You're not getting them confused with the Bill King 101's I heard of (I thought they were civy private imports and did not come through the Army).
I think I'll hold back on dismantling the back of 30-248 until I find out more about it.

I had a fiddle with 29-417 today. The fuel pump has ceased to function. I have measured 30V supply to the terminals at the top of the tank. Because there are no access panels in the floor, the tank has to be removed to get to the pump. I'll do that when I change it to an original tub. In the interim, I'll find a 24V pump to rig in series.
All the springs in the light switch were rusty and all but two were broken (some in several crumbs). Because of this, it had a current drain and no predictability as to which lights were on at which position. I have dismantled the switch and cleaned it up. New springs arrived not long ago so I'll spend this evening in front of the telly re-assembling the switch.

[101RRS]

The fuel pump has ceased to function. I have measured 30V supply to the terminals at the top of the tank. Because there are no access panels in the floor, the tank has to be removed to get to the pump. I'll do that when I change it to an original tub. In the interim, I'll find a 24V pump to rig in series.

What happened to the access points in the floor for the fuel pump and fuel sender.?

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Custom built back with chequer plate floor. No holes cut.
23979
23980
I must admit, this hardtop is starting to grow in me. I might work out where they're supposed to be and get some flaps made up.

I went around the auto shops today looking for a 24v fuel pump. Pointless exercise. I'm looking at them on the net now. I've found Facet and Goss. Does anyone know the flow rate required for a 101?

[justinc]

Custom built back with chequer plate floor. No holes cut.
23979
23980
I must admit, this hardtop is starting to grow in me. I might work out where they're supposed to be and get some flaps made up.

I went around the auto shops today looking for a 24v fuel pump. Pointless exercise. I'm looking at them on the net now. I've found Facet and Goss. Does anyone know the flow rate required for a 101?

Mick,

Between 3 and 6 psi is ample. Using 5/16" (8mm) fuel lines with this pressure is plenty of flow, (just checked and at 30 to 35 G/PH it is well and truly enough!). Standard twin carb 3.5?

JC

[101RRS]

I went around the auto shops today looking for a 24v fuel pump. Pointless exercise. I'm looking at them on the net now. I've found Facet and Goss. Does anyone know the flow rate required for a 101?

The pump is 12v - there is a stepper that reduces the voltage. The electrics are the same as early RR ones but because of the different tank size the lengths on the pipes etc are different. The original pump can be left in the system and an aftermarket one cut into the fuel line - I carry one of these as a spare Electric Fuel Pump 12 volt Solid State 3--4.5psi 120LPH - eBay Fuel Pumps, Air Intake, Fuel Delivery, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 17-Apr-10 21:18:21 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Electric-Fuel-Pump-12-volt-Solid-State-3-4-5psi-120LPH_W0QQitemZ120545021239QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c110b0d37)

I know they work in a 101 as on a trip another 101 had a pump failure and I lend him my spare - took about 20 mins to plump in and wire up - worked fine even with the old pump still in the tank.

You will have to get a 101 pump from one of the usual places.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

The pump is 12v - there is a stepper that reduces the voltage.
It must be integral to the pump itself. Both my 101's have 30v supply on the pump terminals.

The original pump can be left in the system and an aftermarket one cut into the fuel line - I carry one of these as a spare Electric Fuel Pump 12 volt Solid State 3--4.5psi 120LPH - eBay Fuel Pumps, Air Intake, Fuel Delivery, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 17-Apr-10 21:18:21 AEST) (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Electric-Fuel-Pump-12-volt-Solid-State-3-4-5psi-120LPH_W0QQitemZ120545021239QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c110b0d37)

I know they work in a 101 as on a trip another 101 had a pump failure and I lend him my spare - took about 20 mins to plump in and wire up - worked fine even with the old pump still in the tank.
Yes, that's why I'm looking for an external pump. A spare to get me out of trouble until I get a real one.

You will have to get a 101 pump from one of the usual places.
Secrets out now. I bumped into AJ at Corowa. The secrecy was worth it. Dave Jump was there when I was telling AJ of the latest purchase. I'll tell you about it someday. AJ is a 200-300km round trip through the heart of Melbourne for me. I'll be calling into AJ's after easter with a long shopping list that includes two fuel pumps.

[101RRS]

It must be integral to the pump itself. Both my 101's have 30v supply on the pump terminals.

How do you get 30v out of a 24v system - max maybe 27v but not 30v.

The stepper is not integral with the pump - my pump has 12v at the terminals and has been in and out a few times.

Dunno what is happening with your systems - maybe a new volt meter is required :)

[Mick_Marsh]

Now that you mention it, I thought it was odd at the time. Multimeter may be a tad inaccurate but slightly, not lots.
It measures the batteries at 34 volts.
The wiring diagram shows the power coming from the 24V batteries, through the pressure switch, through a suppressor to the fuel pump.
What is the suppressor?
If it is a resistor, when there is no current flow, I should be getting battery voltage across the terminals. When the pump is running, the current flow must be such that the voltage drop across the resistor is 12V. If I hook up another pump, I don't know if the current drawn is the same, so I cannot say the voltage will be 12V.
If the suppressor is not a resistor, I don't know what it is or anything about it. If it's showing full battery voltage and it should supply 12V, I can only assume it's stuffed and probably burnt out the pump. I'll find that out when I remove the pump and test it, after I empty and drop the tank, etc.
I can run a new supply bypassing the suppressor and confidently say it will be 24V. Add an external, temporary pump, hey presto, motor running again.
Now for my next trick........

The list of things to do for the first presentation to the roadworthy man is:
Get the brakes working
Get the lights working
Get the windscreen wipers working
Get the demister fan working
Get new tyres

Other things to do
Fix the original fuel pump
Put the original rear tub and soft top on
Source and fit a spare wheel access door

This list will continue to grow as I discover other things.

regards
Mick

[101 Ron]

My electric fuel pump.
The standard one is still there, but not used.( they are not the most reliable thing)
If you look hard you can see the electric fuel lock off for the LPG.
I carry a spare after market pump too, but have never needed it.
I have purchased my 101 this way and left it as is as I figure it is easier to change the after market pump on the side of the road especially if one has already been fitted.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/03/114.jpg

[Mick_Marsh]

Thanks Ron. That's similar to what I'm intending to set up.
The fuel pump in that photo looks exactly like the one is my Series 3 Stage 1. How many volts is it and where do you have it supplied from? What brand is it?

The automotive places (and there were several) I visited to order a fuel pump stocked (amongst others) Goss and Facet fuel pumps. All 12V. When I asked if I could see a catalogue to order in a 24V, they told me Goss and Facet didn't make 24V fuel pumps and there was no catalogue. You get used to that sort of lack of service out here. Then the local businesses whinge and whine about how locals are shopping in Melbourne. Goss and Facet do make 24V pumps. I have their catalogue. I'll order a couple today.

Thanks guys.
regards
Mick

[101 Ron]

The 101 fuel pump should be 12 volt regardless of the vehicle voltage.
like garrycol said, the 24 volt trucks use a voltage reducer for the fuel pumps and ignition coils.
24 volt trucks have electrical filters and suppressers thoughout the system to stop EMF detection by enemy forces
Most of the wiring in my 101 is non standard by a previous owner and it causes me much grief because of this.

[101RRS]

Mick,

I bought one of these for my spares - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/24V-to-12V-DC-DC-Car-Power-Supply-Converter-30A_W0QQitemZ260576569628QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item3cab92e91c
just in case I need to put something that is 12v in the truck in an emergency to run off 24v. You could use one to run your pump if the original suppressor is broke.

They push out 30A and are cheap.

My electrics are a nightmare with a lot of the insulation breaking down on the wiring and corrosion in the terminals so expect ongoing electrical issues - but unlike Ron I can normally use the handbook to trace wiring issues.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Thanks for the suggestion Garry. I made one up for Anthony when he first bought his 101 back in the early 90's. To my knowledge he didn't use it. He didn't trust it as it cost me about $15 in parts at the time and a commercially available one was lots more. I'll make another up when I install the UHF.
I've done a little reading.
There are no voltage reducers (except the voltage stabiliser in the 12V system (559052) for the instruments).
The fuel pump (589322) and suppressor (PRC1254) are common for both 12V and 24V models. The fuel pump motor can tolerate 12-24V.
The coil comes in a 12V (GCL111) or a 24V (552765) version as do all the other electrical systems. Starter motor 12V (589816) 24V (589817). Gauge panel (next to the speedo) 12V (589508) 24V (589339).
Bottom line is, if you have a 12V 101, there is 12V at the fuel pump terminals, if you have a 24V 101, there is 24V at the fuel pump terminals.
Garry, I'd say a previous owner has partially converted your electrics to 12V. This would make some parts easier to source. (I have also bought a new multimeter. This one has a thermocouple.)

I now have my emergency fuel pump. It is a Goss 24V. The local auto parts stores tell me Goss only make 12V pumps which is not correct. If it doesn't fit on a Commodore, they can't be bothered getting it in. "What's it for" they said. "A Landrover" I said. "What sort of Commodore is that, mate?"
Well, this weekend I'll hook it up and get it moving again.

[Mick_Marsh]

I had one of those days today.
Today was the day I was going to quickly install the external fuel pump. I didn't want to remove the tank. That meant draining and disconnecting the tank. If I did that, I'd might as well replace the original pump.
I wanted to install the external fuel pump near the fuel pickup end of the fuel tank. The area was too tight to get tools in so I removed the tank. Oh well, now I might as well replace the original pump.
With the tank removed, I'll give it a good clean and repaint it. I might even use some of that KBS Coatings fuel tank sealer. (Has anyone had any experience with this product?) The chassis behind the tank has lots of surface rust so I'll wire brush that, fisholene it and repaint. I'll install the external pump for when the internal pump fails at a most inconvenient time.

While the tank is out, I'll take it to a fuel tank fabricators to get a quote to fabricate one out of stainless. Would anyone else be interested or has anyone else done this before?

[chazza]

The chassis behind the tank has lots of surface rust so I'll wire brush that, fisholene it and repaint.

If you want to stop the rust forever then forget about Fishoilene and use Penetrol by Flood Paint Company instead.

I have just completed a 12 month outdoor trial with both products and several others using a control, and the bit of rusted steel coated with Penetrol still looks the same, whilst the others have significantly deteriorated!

I used to be a Fishoilene fan but my allegiance has now been taken by Penetrol - check out their website,

Cheers Charlie

[101RRS]

I have used the POR 15 tank sealer/liner and works exceptionally well. Can actually fill some decent sized as holes.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Allow me to be the first poster in this new section.

My 101's

29-417
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/https://www.aulro.com/afvb/http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47103&stc=1&d=1337614627

and

30-248
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=47104&stc=1&d=1337614709
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mick_marsh-albums-my+101+rapier+tractor+30-248-picture962-30-248-secret-location.html

[101 Ron]

I have two 101s.............show off.......:p:p:p:D

[stuee]

Is that two winches I see? Obviously you have one more than you need. I will volunteer to remove one of them for you :twisted:

But then I'd need to get the correct outriggers since the left hand side ones were replaced with ones to mirror the right and carry an additional fuel :mad:

[101RRS]

But then I'd need to get the correct outriggers since the left hand side ones were replaced with ones to mirror the right and carry an additional fuel :mad:

Hi Stuee - you have me confused - the outriggers on both sides are basically the same (mirrors of each other) - the winch is bolted to the chassis not the outriggers.

If you removed to winch, in theory you could put a tank in with virtually no modification to the outriggers or chassis - fuel filler in the body might be an issue though.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

I have two 101s.............show off.......:p:p:p:D
Ah, yes Ron but.....

my two aren't as good as your one.

Want to put it to a vote? No point really. Foregone conclusion.

Yes, I was very lucky getting the second one. I do like getting things in two's for some reason. Two Tracks. Two Mercs. I hope to get a couple of Perenties, preferably matched.

[Sleepy]

Has 30-248 got a name?
If not, "LES" would be a good one.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/403.jpg

There is a similarity with the "roof lines".:D;)

[Mick_Marsh]

Mum has named 29-417."That green thing".
It took her a week to acknowledge it's existance.
Not a popular purchase amongst the family members.
I wonder what will happen when they find out I have two?

I'm hoping to find out their names. I'm told they all had one. The Aussie one's that is.

[The ho har's]

i like LES be brave :D ;)

Harry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Has 30-248 got a name?
If not, "LES" would be a good one.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/05/403.jpg

There is a similarity with the "roof lines".:D;)Except there is an Isuzu 110 out there called "Les" that was used on the "Bush Tucker Man" series.

[stuee]

Hi Stuee - you have me confused - the outriggers on both sides are basically the same (mirrors of each other) - the winch is bolted to the chassis not the outriggers.

If you removed to winch, in theory you could put a tank in with virtually no modification to the outriggers or chassis - fuel filler in the body might be an issue though.

Garry

The outriggers are slightly different. The right hand side front outrigger has a large enough hole for the fuel filler to pass through the top and out the side. Looking at the parts manual, the left hand side does not allow for this. Regarding the winch, I was under the impression the winch was tied into the outriggers, however, I looked at the parts manual and its only a pulley situated on the front outrigger which I could easily fabricate a mount for.

So... Mick if you want to dispose of a winch in the future give me a shout :D

[Sitec]

Huh! 2! Not happy Jan!! :) Les works for me too!!!

[Mick_Marsh]

So... Mick if you want to dispose of a winch in the future give me a shout :D
I may be on to one for you.
What body parts have you got to trade?
I shall encourage the potential vendor to contact you.

[stuee]

I may be on to one for you.
What body parts have you got to trade?
I shall encourage the potential vendor to contact you.

Thanks for keeping an eye out Mick.

All my body parts are a bit battered after rugby yesterday, don't know how much they'll be worth now:D In terms of 101 body parts I pretty much only have enough to rebuild mine.

I was watching the post on the 101 forum about cost of a winch setup and I cant afford the market rate atm (just paid for most of my parts through AJ) and without any parts to trade I'm a little bit stuck. I didn't think they would fetch that much of a premium to be honest.

[101RRS]

I have the Nokken winch and it is great but if I did not have one and was not too worried about authenticity I would just bung in an electric winch. A lot more flexible as you don't need to have the engine running and it can be mounted behind the front bumper out of sight.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

I was suggesting you sell a kidney or left testicle.
I know of a fellow who would rather an electric winch out front. There is no great rush.
I'll be catching up with him this afternoon. I've already mentioned to him you are after one.

[Mick_Marsh]

Popped down to Supercheap today to get some oil and a filter.
It was a pearler of a day today so I took the 101. Thought I'd take a couple of pics whilst it was out.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/12/714.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/REMLR/DSC_3241.jpg.html)
The "D" handles didn't come up too bad.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/448.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/REMLR/DSC_3240.jpg.html)

[MudSkull]

Looks Great, Mick. Gave mine a bit of a tune up over the weekend too.

[Homestar]

You were spotted on the freeway while you out and about.:). Not by me either, but a fellow member here.

[101RRS]

Mick - i am now confused - how many 101s have you now got?? I knew about the outback bus and the one with the house on the back but I didn't know about this one - how long have you had it.

Is that TAC plate a training command plate? If so the vehicle is not 16 AD.

C heers

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Looks Great, Mick. Gave mine a bit of a tune up over the weekend too.
Getting ready for this event?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/181667-have-you-heard-there-social-day-melbourne-september-29-a.html
I am.

[Mick_Marsh]

You were spotted on the freeway while you out and about.:). Not by me either, but a fellow member here.
I was spotted by a number of people.

[Mick_Marsh]

Mick - i am now confused - how many 101s have you now got?? I knew about the outback bus and the one with the house on the back but I didn't know about this one - how long have you had it.

Is that TAC plate a training command plate? If so the vehicle is not 16 AD.

C heers

Garry
I'll have four when I get yours.

I see, you haven't kept up with current events. I acquired this one almost a year ago. It was closer to what I wanted. It was registered before the end of autumn. Bets were placed and challenges were made. It shared the debut with Gav's 101 at a Wombat camp.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/103106-spotted-whilst-out-about-vic-7.html#post1918468
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/103106-spotted-whilst-out-about-vic-7.html#post1918530

Yes. I have an addiction. I am prepared to suffer so you don't have to.

If the TAC is "Training Command" and others were "16AD", what was "50" ?
Were they used elsewhere?

[101RRS]

If the TAC is "Training Command" and others were "16AD", what was "50" ?
Were they used elsewhere?

Not completely up with TACs however one shows what Command the vehicle is in (Operational Vehicles are 1 Div and training vehicles are Training Command).

I believe the one you have with Kangaroo and Cross Swords in a green and yellow paint livery is Training Command. Where the Roo and Cross Swords with a red and gold livery it is 1 Div. I believe the other Tac - the 50 and in your case the 925 with the gay colour scheme are the unit displays.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

Not completely up with TACs however one shows what Command the vehicle is in (Operational Vehicles are 1 Div and training vehicles are Training Command).

I believe the one you have with Kangaroo and Cross Swords in a green and yellow paint livery is Training Command. Where the Roo and Cross Swords with a red and gold livery it is 1 Div. I believe the other Tac - the 50 and in your case the 925 with the gay colour scheme are the unit displays.

Garry
Thanks for that photo Garry.
The long term project has those TAC's. The other one I have no idea where it was used so I think I may make it 16AD.

[The ho har's]

Getting ready for this event?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/181667-have-you-heard-there-social-day-melbourne-september-29-a.html
I am.

very nice:) but you should be getting ready for this event:D Gav needs a hand to hold;)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/upcoming-events/176223-slow-inc-presents-eastern-seaboard-meet-4th-7th-october-2013-a.html

Mrs hh:angel:

[Mick_Marsh]

very nice:) but you should be getting ready for this event:D Gav needs a hand to hold;)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/upcoming-events/176223-slow-inc-presents-eastern-seaboard-meet-4th-7th-october-2013-a.html

Mrs hh:angel:
So, you didn't get my PM.
I'm limited to weekend trips for the foreseeable future. At least, until they sack me again. Speaking of which, I was chatting to the fellow that sacked me. He welcomed me back.
Thought I'd better chat with him. I wouldn't want to do his job. He does the firing under his boss' direction and his boss does the hiring.

[The ho har's]

So, you didn't get my PM.
I'm limited to weekend trips for the foreseeable future. At least, until they sack me again. Speaking of which, I was chatting to the fellow that sacked me. He welcomed me back.
Thought I'd better chat with him. I wouldn't want to do his job. He does the firing under his boss' direction and his boss does the hiring.


Sorry, Yes we did Mick:)

Remember there are 2 of us reading and 1 posting here;) he does heaps of reading and then I miss the postings:(

Mrs hh:angel:

[Mick_Marsh]

Getting ready for this event?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/181667-have-you-heard-there-social-day-melbourne-september-29-a.html
I am.
As you may or may not know, the 101 had a minor indiscretion on the way back from the display. The fuel pump stopped working. That is now fixed.
Another thing it is doing is throwing out coolant. I have a cooling system pressure tester so I'll be testing if the cooling system has any leaks.
On the subject of coolant: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/187330-what-coolant-do-people-run-their-101s.html

[Mick_Marsh]

Well, I bought a new radiator cap for a Range Rover, topped up the coolant with Tectaloy 60 (http://www.tectaloy.com/page14.html) and ran the 101.
Coolant was still being thrown out.
I compared the old cap to the new one. It's the same. I measured the depth of the seal on the cap, 19mm. I measured the depth of the neck on the radiator, 20mm.
I think that may be my problem.
I got one of the stainless steel radiator caps for the Merc and measured it, 22mm. I'll see how that goes.
In the mean time, I'm waiting for the cooling system to cool. I had the pressure tester on the hot radiator. At 15psi it dropped 1psi in ten minutes. That may be just due to the cooling system cooling down. I'll check it again later today.

[101 Ron]

I have been learning things.
One of your 101s is a well known Ex Sydney one..........and a proven Cowora veteran.......should be no problem you getting there.
You have got the disease very bad.

[Mick_Marsh]

I have been learning things.
One of your 101s is a well known Ex Sydney one..........and a proven Cowora veteran.......should be no problem you getting there.
You have got the disease very bad.
Yes. That's the one throwing the coolant out.
And, I might add, I'm happily afflicted.

I was tempted to make him an offer on his Inter.

[101 Ron]

Yours and mine ........about 18 years ago ?????????
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/12/727.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/101Ron/media/101wl_front_zps35cd737b.jpg.html)

[101RRS]

I have been learning things.
One of your 101s is a well known Ex Sydney one..........and a proven Cowora veteran.......should be no problem you getting there.
You have got the disease very bad.Is it the ex Porter one?

[101 Ron]

Is it the ex Porter one?

He has been very hush hush on that one.

[101RRS]

I can see why Mick has had fuel pump problems as that 101 has always had a dodgy fuel pump - maybe it was still running my in line pump that went in 4 years ago.

[Mick_Marsh]

He has been very hush hush on that one.
Hmmm. No.
You just haven't heard the noise. Those down here have. They're probably sick of it by now.

I can see why Mick has had fuel pump problems as that 101 has always had a dodgy fuel pump - maybe it was still running my in line pump that went in 4 years ago.
It makes me happy to read that. I've replaced the fuel pump. Here's hoping that's fixed the problem

In pressure testing the cooling system, it dropped from 15psi to 14psi in about two hours. That suggests it was the cap.

I have some new bar treads on order. That is the next thing to be done on it.

[101RRS]

So Mick did you put an inline pump in or put an intank pump in. I had low volume and pressure in my intank pump a while back and bought a new one off AJ for a reasonable price - wasn't quite the same but still went in quite well.

I also carry an inline facet in my parts so that it can be put in as a back up in case of failure.

This is what we did back in 2009 when that 101 had a failing in tank pump and we durey rigged my spare facet to keep it running.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

I have a number of pumps sitting on the shelf. Some I have bought from AJ, some from our friends in the UK. They're a Commodore pump.
The one I put in is one from the UK.
I have a couple of 24V Goss in line pumps for fuel pump failures on trips. I now have four dead 101 fuel pumps on the shelf. Must get around to putting new fuel pumps in the other two.

[cooee]

well done mick on getting john potter 101 very org
so how about selling one of yours other ones as you cant drive them all
so we can see all these 101 running around this great country
happy travels
cooee:D

[101RRS]

I have a couple of 24V Goss in line pumps for fuel pump failures on trips.

Mick I assume you are aware that all 101 pumps are 12v irrespective if the vehicle is 24 or 12v so if you are going to use the current pump power supply you will need 12v pumps. Of course if going in line and taking power from elsewhere you will need pumps that match that power suoply.

Cheers

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

well done mick on getting john potter 101 very org
so how about selling one of yours other ones as you cant drive them all
so we can see all these 101 running around this great country
happy travels
cooee:D
I tell people "They're not for sale".
I sold one of my other vehicles about a year ago. A friend of the purchaser turned up with him when the vehicle was collected. Upon seeing the King Creek 101 in the driveway, "Cool" he said. "Are you selling that?"
"You wouldn't pay what I paid for it." I replied.
"I'll give you four thousand." he offered thinking he'll knock my socks off.
I think he may have been disappointed I did not jump at his offer.

To avoid arguments, I simply say "Not for sale."

You want a 101? I know where there are a few for sale. I'm sure you know where they are too.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/101-forward-controls-variations/176551-whos-looking-101-landrover.html
There are plenty out there.

[Mick_Marsh]

Mick I assume you are aware that all 101 pumps are 12v irrespective if the vehicle is 24 or 12v so if you are going to use the current pump power supply you will need 12v pumps. Of course if going in line and taking power from elsewhere you will need pumps that match that power suoply.

Cheers

Garry
There is only one original 'in tank' fuel pump across the models. When checking if there was supply to the terminals the multimeter displayed 24V.
The two Goss 'in line' fuel pumps I have for emergency repairs are 24V.

Of note, the lights in my Crump & Cornish trailer are 12V/24V so I can swap it between 101 & Inter & hybrid.

[Sitec]

I have a working original 'in tank' pump here that I'll never use again if anyone needs one! :)

[101 Ron]

Multi meter may display 24volt.......as they are super sensitive.........under slight load............12volt
All in tank pumps should be 12volt via voltage reducer behind drivers seat.
on 24 volt vehicles.

[Mick_Marsh]

Just to give you lot an idea of how long I have suffered my disease, I've wanted a 101 since I first saw AJ's not long after he got it back in the early '90's.
I'd missed out on buying a few. Most I just couldn't afford.

It must have been around 2007 I bought my first one.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/101-forward-controls-variations/47103d1337614627-micks-101-projects-29-417-front.jpg

Then, late 2009 I bought the second one and joined the forum.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/101-forward-controls-variations/47104d1337614709-micks-101-projects-30-248-front.jpg

I've had the third one for a year. It's first trip was May this year, a week after getting it registered. http://www.aulro.com/afvb/victorian-reports/175275-wombat-s-f-i-cant-wait-3.html#post1918591
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/12/714.jpg

[101RRS]

There is only one original 'in tank' fuel pump across the models. When checking if there was supply to the terminals the multimeter displayed 24V.


Then you have a problem with the power supply as it should be 12v - maybe someone has bypassed the reducer and maybe that is why the pump failed as the OEM in tank pumps are 12v. But then as long as you know it and have gear to match it there is no issue.

Garry

[101RRS]

I'd missed out on buying a few.

And now you have got the market cornered :cool:

[Mick_Marsh]

And now you have got the market cornered :cool:
Not quite yet. There is one other I would like.

[ex 101 junkie]

Well, I bought a new radiator cap for a Range Rover, topped up the coolant with Tectaloy 60 (http://www.tectaloy.com/page14.html) and ran the 101.
Coolant was still being thrown out.
I compared the old cap to the new one. It's the same. I measured the depth of the seal on the cap, 19mm. I measured the depth of the neck on the radiator, 20mm.
I think that may be my problem.
I got one of the stainless steel radiator caps for the Merc and measured it, 22mm. I'll see how that goes.
In the mean time, I'm waiting for the cooling system to cool. I had the pressure tester on the hot radiator. At 15psi it dropped 1psi in ten minutes. That may be just due to the cooling system cooling down. I'll check it again later today.
Hello Mick, when i bought 101 about 15 years ago it had been sitting in museum for at least 10 years. Radiator was full of gunk. When it was taken out for a test run it overheated badly. I pulled off heads did valves and got heads machined, also pulled out radiator and had it pulled apart and all tubes cleaned, then resoldered up again.Radiator was only flowing 25%.Sounds like the radiator is partially restricted. Take it out and get it tested for flow. Also you could try reverse flushing it or as temporary measure turn on heater tap to get extra cooling.On the fuel pump issue , make sure the 2 wires on the top or the fuel pump are connected firmly(have good electrical connection) and run an external after market electric fuel pump as back up( they are 12v so you can run a wire from the + side of the 12 v battery that is grounded. Look up REMLR site re photo Rons and yours that Ron posted and it will tell you a little about its army history....John

[Mick_Marsh]

Firstly, welcome to the forum John.

Hello Mick, when i bought 101 about 15 years ago it had been sitting in museum for at least 10 years. Radiator was full of gunk. When it was taken out for a test run it overheated badly. I pulled off heads did valves and got heads machined, also pulled out radiator and had it pulled apart and all tubes cleaned, then resoldered up again.Radiator was only flowing 25%.Sounds like the radiator is partially restricted. Take it out and get it tested for flow. Also you could try reverse flushing it or as temporary measure turn on heater tap to get extra cooling.On the fuel pump issue , make sure the 2 wires on the top or the fuel pump are connected firmly(have good electrical connection) and run an external after market electric fuel pump as back up( they are 12v so you can run a wire from the + side of the 12 v battery that is grounded. Look up REMLR site re photo Rons and yours that Ron posted and it will tell you a little about its army history....John
Thanks for that John.
Did I make it sound as if I bought a lemon? Well, no I didn't buy a lemon. Far from it.
I'm experiencing the usual issues when you take ownership of an old vehicle. The previous owner looked after it well.
I pressure tested the cooling system and it dropped from 15psi to 14psi in two hours. I think that is pretty good. It also has clean green coolant that flows very well.
The problem appears to be an incorrect radiator cap. The cap wasn't sealing in the radiator neck. Refer to my previous post.

Well, I bought a new radiator cap for a Range Rover, topped up the coolant with Tectaloy 60 (http://www.tectaloy.com/page14.html) and ran the 101.
Coolant was still being thrown out.
I compared the old cap to the new one. It's the same. I measured the depth of the seal on the cap, 19mm. I measured the depth of the neck on the radiator, 20mm.
I think that may be my problem.
I got one of the stainless steel radiator caps for the Merc and measured it, 22mm. I'll see how that goes.
In the mean time, I'm waiting for the cooling system to cool. I had the pressure tester on the hot radiator. At 15psi it dropped 1psi in ten minutes. That may be just due to the cooling system cooling down. I'll check it again later today.
As for the fuel pump, we'll see how the new one goes. I have a few spare 'in line' 24V pumps just for such an occasion as a 'in field' repair.
There are a few little items that are either missing or broken which I will gradually fix over time. Other than that, it is in great original condition.
I hope to have it up at Corowa next year. Too far away to make plans though.

[Mick_Marsh]

Ok.
So a few things have been happening. I think the radiator cap issue has been solved. There is another thread on that subject.
So, I've been doing a few runs in it. Yesterday I went for a descent run in warm weather towing the camper trailer. This is what I'll be taking up to Corowa. I was sitting on a little over 80km/h and the temperature gauge was sitting a little over ninety degrees. It did get up to a little under one hundred. There were a few small drops of coolant up around the cap but not enough to be concerned with. It's much improved.
It was running so well. I was quietly confident, until a little more than 10km from home. The motor stopped. After a while it started and I drove a little further when it stopped again.
Hmm... You guessed it, out of fuel.
Looking back in the log book and comparing to the km shown on the speedo, I had driven about 320km on that tank.
Now, the tank is 109 litres. Very rough calculation, I'm getting around 35l/100km. Not good. I'll see how much fuel I get into it later this morning.

[Mick_Marsh]

I topped it up with fuel today. 92 litres. Which is about 29l/100km.
Well, I guess it is a brick.
This weekend it will be a brick towing about one ton of trailer. I think I may be driving from petrol station to petrol station.

[Homestar]

Hmm, sounds like it needs a good tune up. Mine averaged just on 20 for the 3,500KM to Glenreagh and back - towing a slightly smaller trailer, but it had an engine in the back on the way home.

When thrashing it without the trailer, and using the overdrive, it moves up to around 25.

[Mick_Marsh]

Just checked the fluids. The last time the oils were checked was 320km ago for the Caribbean Gardens display.
All the levels are ok except the transfer case. Almost two litres down!
I'll have to check it a few times on the trip.

[The ho har's]

Mick,

You no it is nice driving between 35 and 75 k/hr:D ask us:)

steady is the answer;)

Mrs hh:angel:

[Mick_Marsh]

I usually sit on 80. It can go harder.
Don't forget it has an overdrive.
80 is just nice.

[Mick_Marsh]

"There was movement at the station....."

I've lost my storage facility. My junk, errr, treasures have to move to a new home.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/295.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/50-714/DSC_5296.jpg.html)

[carlschmid2002]

I have a home for them.

[Mick_Marsh]

I have a home for them.
Excellent!
There will be an Inter cab and tray arriving there shortly.

Under cover I hope.

[carlschmid2002]

Send them to Townsville. I have a bigger shed in Mossman near Port Douglas if you like. I am sure the Land Rover Owners Club Cairns will make good use of them. We are doing a CREB trip in a few weeks. Could be fun in a 101.

[Sitec]

I'll happily store the SA plated 101! ;)

[rathgar]

"There was movement at the station....."

I've lost my storage facility. My junk, errr, treasures have to move to a new home.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/06/295.jpg (http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/mick_marsh_AULRO/media/50-714/DSC_5296.jpg.html)

You sorted the towing capacity of the 6x6 then? And why is it on the trailer backwoods?

[Homestar]

You sorted the towing capacity of the 6x6 then? And why is it on the trailer backwoods?

Everything that goes on that trailer goes on backwards - it tows like a dream like that. :)

There is still weight on the drawbar without having all the extra weight of the engine there, so a ball weight under 200Kg, rather than around 400 the other way around.