Thread: Landrover to landcruiser

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Exactly. The pov pack "mine spec" versions we hire don't even have central locking. The internal roll bars also eat into the cabin room and make it almost impossible to open the rear doors...

The minions working for me on the project have a hard time believing me when I tell them how much they cost and that they are almost new. However if you point out a new defender they also think they look "old"...

The ones here in PNG have external roll cages, I have been thinking about putting one on, really got hack up the panels though.....the also come factory fitted with 1HZ's still

Originally Posted by rovercare

Senior Detective Gazza

No need to be facetious. If you disagree with what I have said then fine - make your point on the topic and leave it at that.

Dougal that is very interesting it would be an impressive motor to put in a vehicle

As for the bar and legalities well the police started targeting them as they for some reason got a bee in there bonnet for some unknown reason 1.if you were to get hit by a 3t vehicle the last thing I would care about is what bar it has because ya simply don't wanna get hit by a car to start with 2.the police started a big hype about a few things to do with 4wd's one being the bars and second being roof mounted spotlights in particular here in the hunter valley nsw where the police took it on themselves to manipulate and miss interpret the law to suit themselves...on further investigation the officers were working outside the regulations and faulsely prosecuting the public...

As for the Toyota yep it is really over priced for what ya get hence y I made a lot of the gear to save me a fortune however I don't find 2400rpm at 105km/h with tiny wheels to be all that bad and find the gear ratios much better spaced then the pumas I had...as mentioned before the computer has a better throttle response and suits low speed idling over rough ground better then the 2.2 puma as I spend hours at a time idling along at 10-20km/h on properties...

The gxl seats do not look flash but are reasonably comfy...being aligned with the steering wheel is fantastic and not having the hand brake agonist your leg is good on the big trips...
A seat that goes past 89* is nice also.

If the 130 was to get a sals rear diff back,fix there drive shaft vibration issues,lower the rear seats so that they can recline back a little and put a 3.2 ranger motor in them I'd look at the defender again

Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

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As for the bar and legalities well the police started targeting them as they for some reason got a bee in there bonnet for some unknown reason 1.if you were to get hit by a 3t vehicle the last thing I would care about is what bar it has because ya simply don't wanna get hit by a car to start with 2.the police started a big hype about a few things to do with 4wd's one being the bars and second being roof mounted spotlights in particular here in the hunter valley nsw where the police took it on themselves to manipulate and miss interpret the law to suit themselves...on further investigation the officers were working outside the regulations and faulsely prosecuting the public...

If you are talking about bullbars in the bolded bit, I think a more correct response is that the police/transport interpretation of the ADRs and the manufacturer interpretation of the ADRs differed. It seems NSW has allowed a 2yr grace period for people to get their bullbars checked for compliance (see below). The PDF below gives pretty clear rules on what does and doesn't comply.

NSW Centre for Road Safety > Staying safe > Vehicle safety > Bull bars
Make sure your bull bar is legal

Some bull bars being used in NSW do not comply with laws introduced in 2003. Our Bull bar tolerances and conditions document (PDF, 708Kb) [Listen to this document] provides clear advice about the types of bull bars that are allowed on NSW roads. Dangerous bull bars pose a greater risk to pedestrians and other road users.
Two year exemption

There will be a two-year exemption period to allow drivers to have their bull bar checked and if necessary, modified or replaced. This will allow dangerous bull bars to be taken off NSW roads, without punishing people who have unknowingly bought non-compliant bars.
Clearer guidelines

We are working to provide better guidance to the public and manufacturers about the types of bull bars that are allowed in NSW. We are also working with the police and other enforcement officers to provide clear advice on bull bar regulations.
More information

Detailed information on bull bar compliance is available in AS 4876.1-2002 Motor vehicle frontal protection systems Part 1: Road user protection, available on the Standards Australia website.

Standards Australia is the nation's main non-government standards organisation. It is charged by the Commonwealth Government to meet Australia's need for contemporary, internationally aligned standards and related services

Bull bars < Vehicle safety < Staying safe < NSW Centre for Road Safety
[ame]http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/bull-bar-tolerances.pdf[/ame]

Originally Posted by rovercare

Drive them for a long periods with your kids....dual cab landcruisers are not for tall occupants in the back either, the factory turbo 100 is a very good vehicle

Defender cabs are loved or hated, I hated mine, make sure you spend enough time in one to get the idea, very important

The 70 Series is a family of Toyota Land Cruiser models produced from 1984 until the present day. It replaced the 25-year-old 40 Series as the off-road workhorse of the Land Cruiser heritage, while the 60 Series (and later the 80, 90, 100 and 200 Series) developed into more comfortable passenger off-road vehicles.

Originally Posted by garrycol

So it will have a certification/compliance sticker/plate from the manufacturer (not Toyota) stating that it is compliant and approved for the vehicle it is fitted to.

there was a threat somewhere that the 4 post bullbars will become illegal can't find it right now but after talking to my engineer about a bullbar design I would comfortably say no engineer would sign of a 4 post forward facing bar. in saying that most modifications on many 4wd are not legal or at least not engineered... everyone's own decision

Originally Posted by 4x4 MORE

The 70 Series is a family of Toyota Land Cruiser models produced from 1984 until the present day. It replaced the 25-year-old 40 Series as the off-road workhorse of the Land Cruiser heritage, while the 60 Series (and later the 80, 90, 100 and 200 Series) developed into more comfortable passenger off-road vehicles.

I spent years in a BJ42..... That's why I bought a rangie

Not sure where the 90 comes from as its a prado, but anyway