Y62 patrol

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Originally Posted by rammypluge

The crazy thing is that in 95% or more of driving conditions i bet my small diesel if put in a Y62 would feel more responsive and powerful than if you put an LS2 V8 petrol in a Y62, because the diesel likely has more power below 2500rpm, and that is all the revs that are needed 95% of the time with the diesel.

High output diesels give such relaxed and responsive acceleration and hill climbing that it is understandable that these days they are often the true premium offering.

However, if the Y62 V8 spec of 560nm at 4000rpm is kinda deceiving, and it actually has 500nm at 1600rpm, it might feel similar to my diesel in a Y62 below 2000rpm, and might feel better and better after that. So a bigger diesel would be a more appropriate comparison.

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Hows this....its the Guinness world record for towing surpassing the vw touareg by 15 tonnes. Not only is the y62 HD but definitely not lacking low down torque.

World Guinness record achievement by Nissan patrol pulling 170 ton cargo plane of RUS Aviation - YouTube

As for this its the world record for a dune climb. I reckon sand is definitely the only terrain where the y62 would out perform the defender simply cause of its power.
Listen to that beautiful v8 sing as it powers up this giant dune......love to see a 200 try....and fail
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Nissan Patrol Breaks Another Guinness World Records Title - YouTube

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Originally Posted by fitzy

Mate seriously how long has it been since you’ve driven a petrol v8.
They are so much better than diesels in about every way apart from economy.
Go and have a drive of one.
I’d take one any day.

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I drove an LS crewman recently. Yeah, hammers if you rev it, but a bit dull compared to a good diesel during normal driving.

I guess you adapt, but the main way to adapt is to rev it more, which is even worse for economy.

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The early ls1 motors needed to be revved to make them work, bit of a flaw imo as the peak wasn’t that high.
The beauty of a petrol v8 is the wide torque band.
Even a rover v8 with its low overall figures performs well as it will pull from 750rpm to 5000rpm.
And it it quite linear and smooth as it does it.
Unlike modern turbo diesels which have a very narrow torque band, press accelerator wait for turbo to spool , turbo spools power comes on then falls off, change gear wait for turbo to spool. That’s why they need so many gears to keep them in the narrow band.
2speed powerglides were all that was needed for large v8 because of the nice wide power delivery before fuel economy was an issue

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Originally Posted by fitzy

The early ls1 motors needed to be revved to make them work, bit of a flaw imo as the peak wasn’t that high.
The beauty of a petrol v8 is the wide torque band.
Even a rover v8 with its low overall figures performs well as it will pull from 750rpm to 5000rpm.
And it it quite linear and smooth as it does it.
Unlike modern turbo diesels which have a very narrow torque band, press accelerator wait for turbo to spool , turbo spools power comes on then falls off, change gear wait for turbo to spool. That’s why they need so many gears to keep them in the narrow band.
2speed powerglides were all that was needed for large v8 because of the nice wide power delivery before fuel economy was an issue

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Well, good modern turbo diesels, particularly twin turbo types, spool quicker than a petrol will pickup, and they will rev enough to snick into the next gear, which isnt far away with modern multispeed autos. They change gear so quick there is no meaningful loss, and because of the oozes of torque they dont need to rev much.

Let me guess, like the ones on those Amorok’s.

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Originally Posted by rammypluge

Well, good modern turbo diesels, particularly twin turbo types, spool quicker than a petrol will pickup, and they will rev enough to snick into the next gear, which isnt far away with modern multispeed autos. They change gear so quick there is no meaningful loss, and because of the oozes of torque they dont need to rev much.

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Rammy i agree when it comes to 4wding. 4wding is about drivong as slow as possible and as fast as necessary and nothing is better for that then a diesel. 100% agreed.
However i reckon the big v8 goes alright. Sure its not ideal for the slow stuff but hell is it fun in the sand.

That plane stunt, not a good indicator.

Porsche Cayenne S pulled 314t aircraft last year [emoji41]

Yesterday arvo at boat harbour in kurnell.
Lets just say the y62 loves the sand.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...18/01/1045.jpg

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Yesterday arvo at boat harbour in kurnell.
Lets just say the y62 loves the sand.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...18/01/1045.jpg

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Quick the rugrat is escaping...😄