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Donh54:
Its funny when when you ask how many gears did it have to downshift, hilarious actually, ignorant too maybe.
The y62 has 560nm which puts it at a 40nm disadvantage with a 120kw power advantage.........how hard will you rev your d4 until you realize that its futile as the y62 will keep powering past..[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Hehe! Drivers of trucks would strongly disagree with your definition of pulling power [emoji41]
You’re talking speed...over a short time interval.
Let’s change the context... and you’ll see what I mean.
“What was pretty impressive is that a vehicle with an engine approximately 54% of the Patrol can haul a true 3,500kg whilst being loaded to its GVM, up a gradient that very few vehicles could even hold speed at.
And whilst it’s 180kw and 600nm is well below the others it has the benefit of an extra gear in its ZF to make the most of what it has to offer.”
With just me in my rangie i am on gvm, and no gvm upgrades for the rangie available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Add a bar or two, and a gvm upgrade kit to a y62 and i can still take the family with me legally.[emoji4]
Trucks i understand as its my job monday to friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Yes i am impressed by the d4, seems some cant belive that a petrol v8 has more pulling power than their d4.
Oh I can believe it... it’s essentially an Japanese version of a 350 Chevy [emoji41]
Seems 3,680kg is the GVM upgrade...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
2,750 empty
0,110 fuel
0,140 Bullbar
0,100 to allow for towing 3t
0,030 2nd battery
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3,130kg
Balance 550kg
We really need this stuff to be transparent to buyers hey! (I’ve also done it before on the D4/LC200).
Also Tombie when you state that the patrols engine is 54% bigger your forgetting that its NA and has no forced induction which increases volumetric efficiency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
There is a danger of this thread spiralling down south... bith vehicles are great tow rigs. One appeals to some more than the other and tyat is what makes the world go round...
It was a very very close decidion for me and Juliets (the voice of reason😁) input was staunchly in favour of a new vehicle with a warranty etc, and i agree with that however you have no idea how close it was between the L322 TDv8 and the Y62. Such is the high regard i have for the Nissan offering.
It was purely down to towing aids and suspension for us, and maybe a little obsession with the L322 on my behalf..😅
I just watched it again - dropped a gear when he pulled out to pass, then another one just as he got ahead of the Disco.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nando
I reckon the Disco dropped back because he was worried about getting sucked into the petrol cap vent!! [bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]
Both of them look to be great cars, but I'm afraid towing half a house with me doesn't really float my boat. We can live for a few weeks with no more than an awning, swags and stretchers, and a tent for if we stop somewhere for a while, all fitted into, or onto, a Disco 1. [bigwhistle]
JC i 100% agree and i think that anyone who has followed this thread would appreciate that i have been fair in my analysis of the y62 and not biased. I dont for a second believe its better off road than a defender or a d4. Its probably better in the sand than both but thats what it was designed to do and becuase it has decent tyres on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinc
The y62 has impressed me in a lot of ways. Working with trucks day in and day out had basically led me to believe that diesel was the way to go for everything you'd expect from a hd vehicle but i took a risk on my boss's recommendation and went with a y62. I really like the driving experience and effortless power on offer but i don't love it like i used to love my 110. The patrol is like a mistress I'd imagine (not that id know from 1st hand experience). Its like a guilty little pleasure. Its goes hard when you need it to, comfotable and gentle when not pushing it, always relaible but i just don't love it. Its reliable, seems unbreakable but no matter how hard i try to love it i just don't. I got blasted for saying a y62 wouldnt be as good offroad as a defender on the patrol forum and as a result i spend no time on that forum and all of it here. I make statements based on 1st hand experience and things i learn along the way. The Patrol has been a fantastic learning experience.
I think the defenders ability to be transformed/modified into something personal is what makes it special.
I love LRs and don't want to offend or upset anyone.