Thread: Toyota Hi-lux engine fault

I laughed at the first part.

All cars are fridges...There are common ordinary fridges that most will buy, and there are the odd ball fridge only euthusist love....

Cheers

I think Land-rover's supposed reliability issues, especially from an electronics stand point, will pale into insignificance when the opposition manufacturers try to follow suit. For instance a contractor's Mazda BT-50 had to to go to the dealer on a tilt tray after it ran out of diesel for a "computer reset".

Originally Posted by trout1105

We have recently traded a 2006 Hilux twin cab on a 79 series V8 ute and in the 10 years that we owned it I had to replace 2x batteries several sets of tyres and the alternator.
We did over 250K and that includes several trips to the Kimberly thousands of K's of beach work and at least half of its life on dirt roads
In comparison I bought my 2004 D2a 3.5 years ago and have spent in excess of $15,000 in repairs in 60K of use.
Don't get me wrong i Love my Disco But in comparison to the Hilux for reliability it Sucks.

Yes,same here,as some on here know i run a fleet of 4 Tojo work vans,all around town,almost on GVM all day.
Combined K's of just over 1Mill,over the last 10yrs,have had one diff bearings fail.
Batteries and tyres,nothing else apart from routine servicing.
Never even touched the brakes on any of them.

As for my LR's,there is just no comparison,but then again,the LR is in a totally different class.

I agree,LR's are generally extremely expensive to maintain,particularly the later models,say from D2 onwards.

In fact even the Puma has recently had issues,and it has around 100 000 km on the clock,so not high mileage
Adapter shaft,clutch slave cylinder,brakes,etc.
And that slave cylinder,fitted INSIDE the bell housing,what a dumb stupid design,if there ever was one.
But can't just blame LR for the design,probably came from Ford.
Same as the adapter shaft,another stupid dumb design.

Originally Posted by trout1105

We have recently traded a 2006 Hilux twin cab on a 79 series V8 ute and in the 10 years that we owned it I had to replace 2x batteries several sets of tyres and the alternator.
We did over 250K and that includes several trips to the Kimberly thousands of K's of beach work and at least half of its life on dirt roads
In comparison I bought my 2004 D2a 3.5 years ago and have spent in excess of $15,000 in repairs in 60K of use.
Don't get me wrong i Love my Disco But in comparison to the Hilux for reliability it Sucks.

I think a bit of perspective is in order here tho.
On the face of it, the implication is that the Hilux is more reliable(which it seemingly may be).
But you must have bought the Hilux new, for you to have had it for 10 years, and it being a '06 model.

But the Disco was 10 years old if you bought it 3.5yrs ago, and most likely the 15K may not have been a necessity, but a preference for you to have spent on the D2a.
eg. how much did the engine cost to rebuild .. $4K(more?) .. could have got away with spending less .. etc, etc.

You can't really compare the reliability of a 10 year old car(the D2a) to that of a new one(the Hilux).
(IMO) Even the cost of the alternator on the Hilux was an excessive expense! Shouldn't have been needed in a 10yr period on a newly bought vehicle.

Strangely, in my area, the two most common cars I notice on the 'side of the road'(ie. what appear to be broken down on freeways) are Commodores and late model Hiluxes.

I bought the Hilux second hand with about 40K on it in 2006 and traded it 3 months ago.
The Hilux and the D2a had pretty much the same amount of milage on them when i traded the Hilux So my comparison on the two trucks is pretty accurate given that they had done the same amount of work.
We all try to kid ourselves that the LR is tje strongest and most reliable truck out there But in reality that simply isn't the case, We only own them because they are different to all the other trucks on the road and we enjoy driving them.
As far as reliability and dealer backup/service goes JLR is way fown the list in that aspect and yet we insist on owning tjem, We must be Nutspped

Originally Posted by martnH

I laughed at the first part.

All cars are fridges...There are common ordinary fridges that most will buy, and there are the odd ball fridge only euthusist love....

Cheers

yeah....but a Defender looks like a fridge lying on it's side....

Originally Posted by trout1105

We have recently traded a 2006 Hilux twin cab on a 79 series V8 ute and in the 10 years that we owned it I had to replace 2x batteries several sets of tyres and the alternator.
We did over 250K and that includes several trips to the Kimberly thousands of K's of beach work and at least half of its life on dirt roads
In comparison I bought my 2004 D2a 3.5 years ago and have spent in excess of $15,000 in repairs in 60K of use.
Don't get me wrong i Love my Disco But in comparison to the Hilux for reliability it Sucks.

you are doing well Trout, even though my D2 never let me down, I spent the best part of $70,000 over 8yrs of ownership, even though I really enjoyed driving it and just loved its capabilities, it was going to cost me around $12,000 more to bring it back to pristine condition when I sold it, so I sold it cheap.

Originally Posted by scarry

And that slave cylinder,fitted INSIDE the bell housing,what a dumb stupid design,if there ever was one.
But can't just blame LR for the design,probably came from Ford.

Is it a concentric style slave, Paul?
If so, they are good as they do away with the fork, FWD's and all the race cars I used to work on have been using them forever, just a PITA if you need to replace the O rings as you need to split the bell housing.
Can you believe my old Deefer clutch slave had never been changed!!
The MC was a different kettle of fish....

Same as the adapter shaft,another stupid dumb design.

Yep, and that goes for the t/case diff downgrade too.