E10 and B5 in NSW

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I have been wondering ever since bio fuels were introduced. Whats the point ?

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Google Peak Oil. ( Has everyone forgotten that we are to run out of oil this year??) Hasn't been in the news recently has it.

Google USA oil import dependence and mountain of corn.

In OZ, NSW State government trying to look "green" , and maybe supporting a good party donor. Issues change don't they .

Just about all the commercial bio diesel plants have folded as the raw material is too expensive.

Regards Philip A

I don't think that you can blame Land Rover for not catching up.
The federal Government can legislate what it likes (as often it does) but LR designed an engine to run on DIESEL, as we all know it.

As stated above, there is no standard for biodiesel in Oz.
I can get anything I feel like; linseed oil, clean Canola oil, used fish and chip oil, used sump oil or manure slop for that matter; all of these could be called biodiesel. Whether it has been refined or treated in any way or not.

Would you run your diesel on 95% diesel and 5% Cotton seed oil? I think not.

The Aussie federal gov needs to set a standard that biodiesel needs to pass before it is blended with diesel at any rate.

When there are standards that a fuel is rated at: then a manufacturer can test fuel that marginally passes the benchmark and make an informed recommendation as to how much of that given fuel may be run in their engine without undue failure.

Particularly with 'backyard' biodiesel there is not necessarily much consistency between batches.'

I know plenty of people that run 100% bio with no problems, 1 for 100 00km. That is apart from hard starting on cold mournings due to the viscosity.

Bio is cheap if you make it yourself-vey cheap.
Personally to save 5 cents a litre, I don't think I would bother buying it commercially 'till there is a standard in place.
If you make it yourself,assume any risk, then go for it.

Remember though, those making it at home are using waste and there are only a few doing it in proportion to those who buy normal diesel. If demand for this biodesiel were to increase, supply of the waste oil would be scarce. To produce Biodiesel commercially large quantities of crops would need to be devoted to making bio. This would compete with crops being planted for food. It would also create a great deal of organic waste, this will biodegrade. The other thing to remember with home-made bio is that there is no freight, storage or insurance in manufacture,supply and distribution.

Two more factors to take into account
There is no multi-national company screwing a profit from us,
There is no excise on bio
YET

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As stated above, there is no standard for biodiesel in Oz.

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Mate ! mate ! mate!
you have to keep up.

www.environment.gov.au/.../standards/biodiesel/summary.html

One o fthe reasons most of the biodeisel manufacturers in austrealia went broke is that the standard is very high and no subsidy was given without the standard being met. i wa sdealing with this in 2007 and it was a major problem then as noone had testing facilities to test for the standard.
Regards Philip A

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

Mate ! mate ! mate!
you have to keep up.

www.environment.gov.au/.../standards/biodiesel/summary.html

One o fthe reasons most of the biodeisel manufacturers in austrealia went broke is that the standard is very high and no subsidy was given without the standard being met. i wa sdealing with this in 2007 and it was a major problem then as noone had testing facilities to test for the standard.
Regards Philip A

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The standard seems to have gone missing...

Just Google "biodeisel standard ausdtralia " and it comes up. Maybe they moved it since .
Regards Philip A

OK look here.
Diesel Fuel Quality Standard

Regards Philip A

And here
http://www.environment.gov.au/atmosp...l/summary.html