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    E10 and B5 in NSW

    So are we happy to change from unleaded petrol to E10 in NSW from Jul 11 and from diesel to B5 soon after. The % of bio in diesel would be greater except that manufacturers will not warrant their cars to a higher level.

    Also BP has said that all cars made from 1986 will have no issues running on their E10.

    So if it is proven that E10 or B5 caused an issue in your car - I suppose there is no recourse for repair costs against the manufacturer, the fuel companies or the government.

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    I haven't been following this, but I can say that the BPs in my local area stopped selling straight 91RON a couple of years ago and replaced it with E10. And charged the same for E10 as Shell charge for 91.

    I've been running E10 in a Falcon for about years and have not seen any issues with it nor any increase in fuel consumption, which is what everyone predicted would happen.

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    I don't like the E10 for OPE stuff, so I'll continue to use BP Ultimate or Shell V-Power for the saws and brushcutter.

    There's a good chance of moisture absorption and subsequently corrosion with the E part of the fuel when something has been left standing for sometime.

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    wrt B5 I find this inetresting as I asked Land Rover about it a couple of months ago. My question to them was very particular about the B5 blend for use in a TD5, available from the large distributors and not having choice in some instances.

    I got the same reply that I think anyone else who has asked them the question of biodiesel use, they do not recommend it based on there being no bio-diesel quality standard in Aus. Hows that for non-committal.

    Pity they aren't up to date with the current thinking of the oil refineries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JLo View Post
    I got the same reply that I think anyone else who has asked them the question of biodiesel use, they do not recommend it based on there being no bio-diesel quality standard in Aus. Hows that for non-committal.
    The following is taken from NSW Hansard when the relevant bill was introduced into Parliament last year

    Mr JOHN AQUILINA

    "I am pleased to advise that BP has recently confirmed that it guarantees its E10 petrol for use in any vehicle manufactured post 1986 that has been designed for ULP irrespective of the vehicle's manufacturer's recommendation regarding ethanol content."

    "The biodiesel mandate will be initially set at 2 per cent, but will be increased to 5 per cent in 2012. The 5 per cent is the maximum biodiesel content currently covered by most vehicle warranties, and the Federal Government has recently amended the diesel fuel standard to permit up to 5 per cent biodiesel in all diesel fuel."
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    Well if the E10 is OK to use in cars, then why is there a placard on the pump that says "This fuel is not to be used for marine or aviation activities"?
    I guess if a car engine fails you just pull to the side of the road..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    I don't like the E10 for OPE stuff, so I'll continue to use BP Ultimate or Shell V-Power for the saws and brushcutter.

    There's a good chance of moisture absorption and subsequently corrosion with the E part of the fuel when something has been left standing for sometime.
    My local mower shop has a big sign to the effect you should empty out the fuel tank of saws, brushcutters etc if to be left idle for any length of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    .... and the Federal Government has recently amended the diesel fuel standard to permit up to 5 per cent biodiesel in all diesel fuel."
    Yes that's right. The "diesel standard" has been amended to include bio-diesel.

    LRA are saying that there is "no bio-diesel quality standard in Aus". My understanding was that the standards were also amended to provide a standard for bio-diesel in Sept' 09.

    Hence my comment about LRA not being upto date.

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    Bio Diesel

    While traveling in WA I used bio diesel.My 300TDI loved it.I live in SE Qld and changed to Bio over here but my 300 does not like it...it runs rough at times.My question is .. Is there a difference in the blend between the states?

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    I've been using b20 in my td5 for over a year/40k, nothing, no problems. I dont get it guys, there is nothing special about a td5, its just a direct injection modern technology diesel engine which will run on just about any combustible liquid whose viscosity is low enough to squirt through the injectors. my engine has done over 180k now of faultless driving.....

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