Thread: E10 and B5 in NSW

Originally Posted by Lachlan_

we used E10 fuel in our 83 corolla for a week just before an oil change and there were massive... MASSIVE chunks in the oil. now we arnt slack with oil changes or anything either.

so if you have an older vehicle just be really careful because its huge chunks like these that will do bearings and and stuff like that.

now im all for biofuels but i think they would work better in newer cars and if your going to run on E10 run it only on E10.

Chunks in the oil has nothing to do with the fuel - assuming the engine is basically OK and tuned correctly.

Garry

I've been running my 91 corolla on E10 exclusively for 3 years/40,000km now and have had absolutely no problems except for being slightly harder to start in the cold, but that could be a distinct lack of compression due to age. I have never so much as changed fuel filters in that time either. When I first changed fuels I measured a minimal change in fuel economy, for the better, under 5% but an improvement not a loss. Power didn't feel any different. I buy it from two independant servos. Very pleased with E10.

Originally Posted by longing4alandy

I've been running my 91 corolla on E10 exclusively for 3 years/40,000km now and have had absolutely no problems except for being slightly harder to start in the cold, but that could be a distinct lack of compression due to age. I have never so much as changed fuel filters in that time either. When I first changed fuels I measured a minimal change in fuel economy, for the better, under 5% but an improvement not a loss. Power didn't feel any different. I buy it from two independant servos. Very pleased with E10.

My daughter is running her 97 Camry V6 on E10 at the moment, she (and me) have noticed a drop in power and economy as well as running rougher and hard to start on cold mornings, she is trying to way up if it's cheaper to run on E10 over premium fuels.

Currently she has been getting about 80 to 100ks less on a full tank, but the E10 is around 10 to 30cents cheaper to buy (depending on discount days) so with a 75ltr tank it seems when the fuel is 30cents cheaper it's overall cheaper to run E10 but when the price difference is only 10cents the savings are minimal, if any.

It will be interesting to see what she decides, she's a lead foot

Baz.

I also visit some Jaguar sites and asked about ethanol use in other countries - main responses were from the US - California and Indiana.

Basically they are all suffering the same problems as have been reported here - perishing of rubbers, some corrosion of metal bits, higher fuel consumption, lower power, water absorption by the ethanol and fuel going off more quickly. They put some sort of additive into their tanks that stops the fuel going off and reduces water absorption but it seems it cost more than just using premium - they seemed to have ethanol also in their higher octane fuels. Their marine fuels are ethanol free so it gets used in some cars.

These are all 70s and earlier cars so not necessarily relevant to newer cars but typical of what we can expect in our older landies.

Garry

Problem with E10 is it screws fuel economy and costs more overall.

Fuel comparison: E10 v unleaded v premium - www.drive.com.au

So you pay what 2 cents per litre less but use more so who saves anything sounds like a merrygoround

I have been wondering ever since bio fuels were introduced. Whats the point ?

Originally Posted by Radz

I have been wondering ever since bio fuels were introduced. Whats the point ?

Great subsidies to be had. Its a very contentious issue in the US.