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    BIGMA anyone?

    Before my recent trip to Iceland I was looking to supplement my collection of glass with something a little longer than what I tend to use for my wide-angle landscape stuff. I was really lusting for a Nikkor 200-400 f/4, but by the time I left the Aussie hadn't gone near parity with the greenback, and 7+ grand just didn't fit the budget lol

    Anyway, long story short, I ended up getting one of the new BIGMA OS, i.e. the Sigma 50-500mm f/4.5-6.3 with image stabilisation. Its non-stabilised predecessor had a mixed reputation, primarily owing to Sigma's less than glowing QA credentials, however the grapevine was pretty positive about the new offering.

    And what can I say. It's clearly not as crisp as a Nikkor or Canon 500mm at the long end ... how can it be ... but with a little bit of effort quite workable. At the 50mm it rivals my Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 prime for sharpness, absolutely nothing to complain about. And you get all the stuff inbetween. And IMO it has quite a nice bokeh.

    I ended up using it a lot more than I thought I would, to the extend that I suffered from daily stiff necks and wrists lol (having said that, try lugging a Nikkor/Canon 500mm around your neck for a while!)

    Minus points: there's a fair bit of light fall-off at wider angles on FF cameras, but nothing that modern software like LR3 can't handle. The lens hood gave me a bit of grief with mechanical vignetting (that isn't easily corrected in LR3!) until I realised it needs to snap tightly into place. And as with all Sigmas, the lack of weather sealing always worries me whenever things get a little moist (like they did a lot in Iceland).

    But for about AU$1,500 you get a decent 500mm, that's actually hand-holdable, and almost a "walk-around" lens.

    The following shots are all taken at 500mm, hand-held with IS, some of it in poor light. There's more (and bigger!) on my flickr page for anyone interested...

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    1/1000s f/8.0 ISO800 500mm


    1/250s f/8.0 ISO800 500mm


    1/250s f/8.0 ISO200 500mm


    1/250s f/8.0 ISO800 500mm


    1/500s f/9.0 ISO200 500mm


    1/500s f/8.0 ISO1600 210mm


    1/1000s f/8.0 ISO200 500mm


    1/80s f/8.0 ISO200 340mm
    Last edited by slt; 1st December 2010 at 05:05 PM. Reason: Added exposure info and added a couple of pix

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    Epic shots.

    Im surprised how they sharp they are for a superzoom.

    Are those shot wide open? 500mm f6.3?

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    I also have that lens and use it mainly hand held.
    Very happy with it. Good value I think.


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    Thank you for the report.
    Do you have any samples @ 450-480mm focal lens and with bigger crop to see the bird details?
    I guess that just under 500mm and with an aperture of about F/7 will be good.
    The only problem is that will need very good light.
    Just wonder how it will compare with the Nikon 300mm and the new TC 07 @ 450-480mm.
    Cheers

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    Let's do a little pixel peeping!

    @C0L0N3L: I've added a coupld more pics and exposure info to the original post. As you can see, they're all around f/8.0. I find that, even stopped down, at these long focal lengths the depth of field is unforgivingly shallow. Also note the 1/80s exposure on the last photo ... hand-held! Ok, wasn't the full 500, but still...

    @Chucaro: Sorry, I don't have anything at the focal lengths you're looking for ... I suppose if you have 500mm available you're gonna use 500mm, not 450-480 In any case, you'd be comparing apples with oranges, FX/DX etc. I've done a few 100% crops of the original untouched NEFs to give you some idea. Also, with the light, except for the first and second-last, these were all taken in what I consider "poor" light.












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    Some good shots with the higher shutter speed.
    Does it improve any at f/11?
    Also I wonder how the BIGMA compares to the new Nikkor 28-300?

    Am I correct in thinking you have a D700?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slt View Post

    @Chucaro: Sorry, I don't have anything at the focal lengths you're looking for ... I suppose if you have 500mm available you're gonna use 500mm, not 450-480 .........
    There is a reason why have asked you for images under 500mm
    Zoom lens perform better just bellow the maximum focal lens and fully opened
    As an example the Nikon 70-300 VR is rated as sharp as the Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 VR both @ 200mm focal lens.

    Thank you for the posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    There is a reason why have asked you for images under 500mm
    Zoom lens perform better just bellow the maximum focal lens and fully opened
    As an example the Nikon 70-300 VR is rated as sharp as the Nikon 70-200 f/2.8 VR both @ 200mm focal lens.

    Thank you for the posts.
    I think I know what you're saying, but 200mm is 66% of 300mm, whereas 450-480mm is 90-96% 500mm, and I doubt there'd be much difference. The lens is considerably sharper in the 50-300mm region compared to 500. Just look at the crop of the waterfall picture (@210mm).

    Similarly, my Nikkor 24-70/2.8 is rather ordinary in the 24-36mm, but excellent above that, but again, we're talking 1/3 of the focal range here before there's a difference.

    There's clearly a trade-off in the design of these "super-zooms", but one I can live with in this particular case. Sure, you can get a 300 f/4 + a TC1.7 for a similar amount of gold, but that's a one-trick pony. But if all you're ever gonna do is birds at 500-odd, then I'm sure that's the way to go on a budget.

    Quote Originally Posted by dmdigital View Post
    Does it improve any at f/11?
    To be honest, I'm not sure. We're starting to talk tripod territory here on a lens like this, or shoot ISO1600 and above a lot. Not sure what long lenses people on here are working with, and I for one wouldn't mind seeing similar crops from those lenses. But in any case, I'm quite happy with what I see and have no hesitation to print any of the above (processed) photos at 16x24".

    Quote Originally Posted by dmdigital View Post
    Am I correct in thinking you have a D700?
    You are.

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    I saw a guy in central Melbourne with one of these a couple of weeks ago. He looked somewhat conspicuous! You wouldn't want to seen near a beach with that lens.

    But when you look at the measurements they are only a little larger than other large zooms.

    Cheers, Steve

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    Great shots and closer in my budget then anything else appears
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