Thread: Photography: Canon EOS 10D or 350D

I don't know which way I would go myself, but it might be worth sending DionM a PM if he doesn't see this, he's well in the know on digital SLR's :wink:

G'day Vlad,

Here I yam 8)

Firstly, the comments about the 20D are strange. I haven't heard of any of these problems that would make one avoid them ? There were some real stuff ups by Canon early on in the piece with rubbish firmware that ****ed a lot of people off - they won't do that again (rushed the firmware out to release, plus they forgot that these cameras would be bought and firmware flashed by non-techs who wouldn't read the firmware flashing instructions to the letter).

Anyway, I digress.

The 20D is Canons flagship 'prosumer' camera - better than the entry level. At 8fps, 8.3MP resolution and a host of other pro features (1/250 flash sync, Mirro lockup, etc) it leaves nothing wanting for serious amateurs.

At the hands of pros it can be abused - it is not made for rough handling like the big tank cameras (1Ds etc). It is not a pro camera - but having said that many pros keep one as their backup camera.

I have had mine for almost a year now and love it. Have taken over 5000 trouble free photos, in all kinds of places (including Mt Mee - well actually it was Kenilworth). Have a look at my gallery (http://fotos-files-forums.net/gallery/) for samples. I've taken mine 4WDing, to Sweden in the snow, lots of places 8)

The 20D was the replacement for the 10D - I don't think the 10D had anything special wrt dust and moisture sealing. Unless you are thinking of the 1Ds (which definately is a pro body)?

Personally, my suggested order of purchase would be 20D, 350D then 10D. The 10D, while good for its time, is easily outclassed by the 20D. The 350D is a little less rugged than the 20D and doesn't have the high frame rate and a few other features, but it is not a bare bones model like the old 300D was.

If money is tight, get the 350D. Else get the 20D.

And don't forget lenses. I was sorely disappointed at the quality of the 'free' 18-55 lens Canon gives out.

Also, if you are concerned about dust ingress, most of the dust comes from lenses gaps etc. My lenses are dust and moisture sealed, but they are the more expensive Canon L lenses (RRP around $2k to $3k each).

The comments came from a pro photographer mate and yes they mainly revolved around the firmware but he also mentioned a couple of other issues (which apparently Canon are well aware of, and which have been fixed in the upcoming 5D).

The 20D is well beyond my price range I'm afraid given its expensive in "body only" with Lenses extra. And those L-series lenses are the ducks guts, but again beyond my budget.

I have doubts as to whether the improvements betwen the 10D and 20D would make it worth the expense anyway, for an amateur like myself.

It's purely that this 10D is on offer at a similar price to a new 350D (possibly even a bit cheaper) that I am considering it.

Why do you list the 350D ahead of the 10D I am interested to know. I am aware the 10D is 'older' (technology really is a two edged sword - the 20D will be 'older' soon :roll: ) but I thought there must be some advantages the 10D has over the 350D ?

Originally posted by VladTepes
The comments came from a pro photographer mate and yes they mainly revolved around the firmware but he also mentioned a couple of other issues (which apparently Canon are well aware of, and which have been fixed in the upcoming 5D).

Hrm. Maybe he knows more than me. On all the forums I frequent I've not seen anything like that. Firmware was the initial release firmware - nothing has happened since.

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Why do you list the 350D ahead of the 10D I am interested to know. I am aware the 10D is 'older' (technology really is a two edged sword - the 20D will be 'older' soon :roll: ) but I thought there must be some advantages the 10D has over the 350D ?[/b][/quote]

How many actuations does this 10D have?

To me I always buy the latest when it comes to electronics. The 350D would have a better sensor, which means better high-ISO performance. The 350D probably has a few functions implemented better too. Perhaps you should do a comparison of features and just check? I guess my opinion is the 350D is newer and offers more bang for your buck. S/hand gear can sometimes be a problem (if its an ex-pro unit, what condition is the sensor in in terms of dust and scratches, how many actuations are on the shutter, etc).

Is shutter actuations an issue :?: How :?: Why :?:

Hey Vlad

Check out this website.
http://www.dansdata.com/20d_intro.htm
This guy does great reviews of all kinds of weird stuff. He covers a lot of the ground that you are looking at.

Cheers

Simon.

Originally posted by VladTepes
Is shutter actuations an issue :?: How :?: Why :?:

Yes. They are only rated for a certain number of shots, then need to be replaced. They wear out and lose their timing (remember these things have to be precise down to thousandsths of a second, else your exposure will be out).

If its been used commercially, there are bound to be a heap of actuations on it.

Interesting site Simon, thanks.