Thread: Looking to buy DLSR

Originally Posted by Disco_ute84

This morning i bought myself a D90 with a 18-105vr lens. Considering that i got it form the local camera store which is only less then a minute from my house i'm pretty happy with the price i paid, oh and what i got thrown in. 16gb class 6 sd card, nikon battry, and a bag.

now i just have to learn how to drive it.

Thanks for everyones advise.

Well done look forward to the pics and the involvement in the photocomps

Seriously, I don't care who reads what review out there. They are all biased towards the reviewer and who is getting payed by whom.
Buy a DSLR body today, and within 12 months the technology is obsolete on the body that you have spent your "hard earned on" !
Get what you can afford and save your dollars towards quality glass on whichever brand platform you have settled on.
Shoot tons of pics and learn by your mistakes, and you will find that your frames will start to show more interest and depth irrelevant of what body you have chosen.
Brand loyalty is out of date. All the new camera bodies are basically supercomputers now offering new gimmicks that you will end up shutting down once you get to know your camera body.
And remember, just because you drop $2K on a body, it will not guarantee that you will get killer frames.!!!
Ha, sorry to offend some, but I sometimes feel that people get too caught up in specs and omit their own abilities...;

Buy what you can afford and get out there and enjoy your outdoors and your new camera kit !!!!

Shot taken with Canon 50D and Canon EF 200mm F/2.8 L II
My brothers Daughter opening her Xmas present....it was'nt quite what she wanted.....

Originally Posted by ciapek

Seriously, I don't care who reads what review out there. They are all biased towards the reviewer and who is getting payed by whom.
Buy a DSLR body today, and within 12 months the technology is obsolete on the body that you have spent your "hard earned on" !
Get what you can afford and save your dollars towards quality glass on whichever brand platform you have settled on.
Shoot tons of pics and learn by your mistakes, and you will find that your frames will start to show more interest and depth irrelevant of what body you have chosen.
Brand loyalty is out of date. All the new camera bodies are basically supercomputers now offering new gimmicks that you will end up shutting down once you get to know your camera body.
And remember, just because you drop $2K on a body, it will not guarantee that you will get killer frames.!!!
Ha, sorry to offend some, but I sometimes feel that people get too caught up in specs and omit their own abilities...;

Buy what you can afford and get out there and enjoy your outdoors and your new camera kit !!!!

Shot taken with Canon 50D and Canon EF 200mm F/2.8 L II
My brothers Daughter opening her Xmas present....it was'nt quite what she wanted.....

Interesting. I read this and alternately agreed and disagreed by sentence!

1. Not all reviewers are biased.

2. I would say the rate of development of DSLRs has slowed. Looking at the Canons; the 10D -> 20D -> 30D had good cases for upgrades, 40 and 50D less so. The DSLR body you buy today will be quite capable of taking good shots for many years to come.

3. Agree re glass! But I'd add only Canon and Nikon have a really wide range of accessories. Try and find a pro who uses something other than those two. Sure the range may not be as important to amateurs, but it is still a consideration.

4. Shoot tons...agree!

5. Brand loyalty....not with DSLRs. Once you start buying gear, you're locked into a brand and it's an expensive switch. So, choose carefully.

6. $2k on a body killer frames....agree!

On this forum people are more interested in photography than the camera, which is the way it should be. dpreview.com is another matter though ;-)

I do not agree with your comment "Buy a DSLR body today, and within 12 months the technology is obsolete"
I have a Nikon D200 and have a long life in front of it. The camera is capable of process very good images together with a good lens and knowing how to use it.
When I purchased the Nikon D200 it was the only body (at reasonable cost) which have magnesium sealed body an important factor when the camera is used for nature photography in extreme conditions.
If was not for that I woul have a Nikon D80 or a Canon 40D (after all the bugs were fixed)
I say once in this thread, when start in photography follow the rule
1)Good tripod
2)Good lens
2)Camera body
Without the good steady tripod the images will never be sharp regardless of the qulality of the lens
If you are going to use the camera for portraits then a basic Nikon body which can use the excellent Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.8 = to 75 mm crop factor on Nikon cameras will be the best setup for the money. The lens cost $ 250.00 and is as good as any $ 1000 Leica or Canon lens
You do not need the Canon 200 f/2,8 for that
Cheers

Originally Posted by Chucaro

I do not agree with your comment "Buy a DSLR body today, and within 12 months the technology is obsolete"

I agree it's a strange comment to make. The P&S market suffers horribly from this but then it is aim squarely at the consumer. The DSLR is a different kettle of fish and you only have to get on a few camera forums to see how many people still use cameras like Nikon D1H, D100 and D70, not to mention the Canon EOS 300D/350D which put DSLR in the reach of the consumer market. Pro-use and their turn over of DSLR's is a different story, camera's wear out or they become better for the use they have for them, if its your living then you use what you need to get the best return. Even so there are a lot of pro's still using older cameras. In general I believe the statistics are that most skip at least one generation before upgrading.

As for the lenses, there is no substitute for good glass. This doesn't mean it has to cost the earth and there are numerous examples of this to be found and not just in the Canon or Nikon camps, but also Sigma, Tamron and others.

Originally Posted by dm_td5

I agree it's a strange comment to make. The P&S market suffers horribly from this but then it is aim squarely at the consumer. The DSLR is a different kettle of fish and you only have to get on a few camera forums to see how many people still use cameras like Nikon D1H, D100 and D70, not to mention the Canon EOS 300D/350D which put DSLR in the reach of the consumer market. Pro-use and their turn over of DSLR's is a different story, camera's wear out or they become better for the use they have for them, if its your living then you use what you need to get the best return. Even so there are a lot of pro's still using older cameras. In general I believe the statistics are that most skip at least one generation before upgrading.

As for the lenses, there is no substitute for good glass. This doesn't mean it has to cost the earth and there are numerous examples of this to be found and not just in the Canon or Nikon camps, but also Sigma, Tamron and others.

Totally agree !
But what gets me is when people base a purchase decision on wheather a camera has 9 or 30 odd focus points, and when you start using it you find that you only need ONE and that's the one which you want to be in the centre of your subjects IRIS and all 30 bloody points miss their target.

Technology totally misses the point. Every brochure that I pull up boasts this is better than this and so on, but at the end of the day all you need is Glass, Shutter, Aperture, ISO, and a good Software Package, because no single photo out there in the great land of Internet, displaying something that captures your emotions, is Post Processed making all the bells and Whistles on your Camera Body irrelevant !

Don't entirely agree.

Multiple focus points are very useful. I'd hate to restrict myself to just the centre one. OK, I usually use one, but it's not always centre, and there's times I want all of them.

As for technology, well if it makes life easier and I can get the shots I need with less effort it's all good. AI Servo..love it. High-ISO performance...wouldn't be without it. High frame rate...essential. High-speed memory cards...can't be fast enough. Bring me more technology! Now I could work around all of the above, but to get a given shot it'd take me several times as long, and time is money. So I wouldn't say technology is irrelevant. If you mean over-reliance on it, or an expectation that's all you need to do, then I'll with you all the way.

And there are some superb post-processed photos. Let's not take away from those who have that skill, something I don't possess nor have any interest in, but I do appreciate those that can and do.

Originally Posted by rmp

Don't entirely agree.

Multiple focus points are very useful. I'd hate to restrict myself to just the centre one. OK, I usually use one, but it's not always centre, and there's times I want all of them.

As for technology, well if it makes life easier and I can get the shots I need with less effort it's all good. AI Servo..love it. High-ISO performance...wouldn't be without it. High frame rate...essential. High-speed memory cards...can't be fast enough. Bring me more technology! Now I could work around all of the above, but to get a given shot it'd take me several times as long, and time is money. So I wouldn't say technology is irrelevant. If you mean over-reliance on it, or an expectation that's all you need to do, then I'll with you all the way.

And there are some superb post-processed photos. Let's not take away from those who have that skill, something I don't possess nor have any interest in, but I do appreciate those that can and do.

I hear what you're saying I just can't stand the mentality that one product is better than the other.
YOU will make your gear better than the other's.
I hate numbers and brochure statistics, marketing is an artform and it can blind the masses. lol.....all in good humor....