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    Swag or tent??

    Guys,
    Im thinking of buying a new tent or swag to replace my small Black Wolf 1-man Stealth Mesh tent for when I go away with others and I dont have my Defender and RTT with me.

    The black wolf needs replacing because I leant it to someone and it came back with a missing pole and its not cost effective to replace the pole, may as well buy another (same) tent!

    This has got me thinking, the black wolf tent was V small so I could do with something a little bigger so I can at least roll over! I did like that tent because it could breath though and was quick to put up.

    I've looked at the cheap ($150 ish) nylon tents and whilst they wont let the rain in, Im sure they wont breath either! I know some of the more expensive 2 man tents are good but Im also now considering a decent sized swag but am concerned about the weatherproof-ness of them.

    Can they (the better ones) be comfortably used as you see them, i.e without a tarp over the top strapped to a vehicle?

    Whats the go with swags, how do you use them / set them up for a comfortable nights sleep?

    Being canvas I know they dont pack up as small as a nylon tent and weigh a bit more but are there other hidden advantages?

    Any thoughts / advice welcomed.

    Thx
    Jon
    Regards,
    Jon

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    We just bought a double swag for me and the missus. Biggest advantage we saw was it has all bedding ready to go with it. Ours can be opened right up so its just misquito netting and then closed up when its raining. It has flaps either end that peg out so that you can leave the foot and head canvas open to get reasonable airflow in rain. Only thing I would suggest is getting a 12v fan to put at the foot opening to get a bit more airflow.
    btw has plenty of room for me wife and the 7 month old baby
    cheers
    Josh

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    Being a bit of a minimalist, old habits die hard, I'm from the 'Swag' school of thought.

    Takes up far less room than a tent, ease of setting up - in all weathers, costs - well that is very problematical you get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recy Mech
    Being a bit of a minimalist, old habits die hard, I'm from the 'Swag' school of thought.

    Takes up far less room than a tent, ease of setting up - in all weathers, costs - well that is very problematical you get what you pay for.
    Thanks.
    I'd argue that a tent usually takes up less space than a swag, there arent many 1 or 2 man canvas tents out there that give similar constraints when erected.

    That said I can see they are much more durable than a non-canvas variety when out in the bush. Indeed, is that it? Are they popular because they are the most durable for 1 man (or latterly 2 people)? If so and they are waterproof I'm sold, I think!

    Another question...
    From reading various swag posts on here, why do people make a tarp strung over the swag part of there normal setup? If they are waterproof and breathable I'm not seeing the need?

    Thx
    J

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    Regards,
    Jon

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    I have four single swags, basic bottom end price wise in fact I made one as an apprentice. They are far from water proof if there is rain is about than I need to be under cover. They can handle dew.

    I used them for 18 days touring the Simpson desert and they worked a treat but as mention do take a lot of room on the roof rack. Keep in mind 50mm mattress 2 sheets doona pillow all wrapped u in two layers of canvas at a guess 400mm round

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    Hey Jon, The swag is by far the best thing ive slept in as far as room and ease of setting up, I bought the Oztrail Mitchell for $200 and still is perfectly ok to sleep in, with netting only on a warm nite nothing beats it,

    cheers

    Ken

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    Thanks guys. It would seem the cheaper ones let rain in..

    Can anyone comment on the more expensive brands in this regard?

    Does water tend to come in around the seams or through the canvas?

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    Regards,
    Jon

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    I use a small tent, thin mattress and sleeping bag when traveling with a mate on motorbikes. He uses a swag.

    I don't think there is a huge difference in the space they each use when packing the bikes. The swag is probably easier to pack/ unpack. The tent gives a bit more room to read etc.

    Last time we went out we camped by a river and had a heavy dew that night. Next morning all his gear, left out by the swag, was soaked. My gear, stowed in the tent with me was fine. The tent had enough ventilation to be very comfortable.

    Also, people are less inclined to drive over tents vs swgs.

    I'm sticking with the hiking tent for these trips.

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Jon View Post
    Thanks.
    I'd argue that a tent usually takes up less space than a swag, there arent many 1 or 2 man canvas tents out there that give similar constraints when erected.

    That said I can see they are much more durable than a non-canvas variety when out in the bush. Indeed, is that it? Are they popular because they are the most durable for 1 man (or latterly 2 people)? If so and they are waterproof I'm sold, I think!

    Another question...
    From reading various swag posts on here, why do people make a tarp strung over the swag part of there normal setup? If they are waterproof and breathable I'm not seeing the need?

    Thx
    J

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    If it rains or a heavy dew settles, you don't have to pack a wet swag...

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    First up you can buy poles for tents at Big W or tent sellers.
    I have a Mitchell (Oz-trail) swag, at my age I found it extremely difficult getting up off the ground, either in the middle of the night for a slash or in the morning. So I bought an Oz-Trail Jumbo size (just over a metre wide) fold up stretcher, which I set my swag up on, as easy to get into as my bed at home and as comfortable.
    Now you will appreciate a Tarp over the swag (off the 4WD or handy tree) when you need to get into your swag when it's ****ing down, I've seen no way to get into a swag in heavy rain without getting your bedding real wet. I also bought a telescoping Gazebo (3Mx3M) from Supercheap for $75, half price on special, I also have a couple of Silver tarps 3mx2m to hang up as walls. Enough room for swag on stretcher and table and cooker on legs. The stretcher and Gazebo fit nicely on the floor behind the front seats of my Disco and the swag on the back seat, BTW it is much easier to roll up the swag on top of the stretcher, rather than on your knees on the ground, so for around $350 a handy setup, if I do say so, Regards Frank.

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