Thread: Improving the Camping Experience

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I say, mate. Steady on. No need to trash someone's reputation in public.

He knows I'm joking - he hangs it on me for my love of Holdens. . It's the age old argument. People need to chill and have a bit more fun.

Originally Posted by bacicat

He knows I'm joking - he hangs it on me for my love of Holdens. . It's the age old argument. People need to chill and have a bit more fun.

I sure do. There has been nothing in this thread whatsoever directed at me that has been an issue.

Try posts #59 and #60 and then your comment #61, I didn't see anything personal there and the fact that carrying fuel (LPG) in an approved and much safer container than a jerry can or a lawn mower fuel tin is a relevant fact, even if you don't agree, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by bacicat

Let's keep it nice please. I see no reason why you make someone's decision to carry one fuel over the other personal. The discussion was going along very nicely. If you don't have anything productive to say, maybe just say nothing at all.

Originally Posted by Tank

Try posts #59 and #60 and then your comment #61, I didn't see anything personal there and the fact that carrying fuel (LPG) in an approved and much safer container than a jerry can or a lawn mower fuel tin is a relevant fact, even if you don't agree, Regards Frank.

If you think my opinions are ridiculous, so be it, I have no issue with that. My point (for the last time as I think it's been done to death - 2 months ago) is that an LPG cylinder that hasn't been turned off properly - while stored in a vehicle, could potentially cause someone far more trouble than the lid of a shellite bottle left slightly loose.

If you don't agree, that's fine. I took more issue to you saying that I was having a shot at someone when I clearly wasn't - and that person has even said the same thing.

I'll accept your apology any time for that.

Originally Posted by bacicat

an LPG cylinder that hasn't been turned off properly - while stored in a vehicle, could potentially cause someone far more trouble than the lid of a shellite bottle left slightly loose.
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a little more complex than that

LPG is 270:1 shellite is 160:1.

Shellie vapour has a weight of 3:1 well both are heaver than air so its a mute point

i guess my point is, to go bang you need less shellite Vapour than LPG Gas, which sort of makes them equal given equal liquid volumes.

in that light i see no difference between a leaking tin of shellitte and a leaking lpg bottle.

that would leave the argument of which is more likely to leek. not closing the tap on an lpg bottle would be equal to not tighting the lid on a tin of shellite. both are operator issues. as is unsafe storage or fixing of ether vessel. so there is no argument there. IE the idiot who would do the first is just as likely to do the second.

the only argument is while in safe storage. the liquid state fuels reaction to heat and the nature of the vessels. an lpg bottle and the nature of LPG means that it can be exposed to quite a lot of heat before a safety valve will respond.
shellite on the other hand reacts quickly to rather low heat loads. leaking around the lid, vapour and rupture of the tin its self are far more lightly than and will/do happen at what in Australia are normal ambient temperatures.

regardless both fuels should be outside the vehicle

every one has different styles of camping touring so i guess its each persons choice, they are both fuels both with risks. one must apply this risks to there climate, travel style, and availability.

as i tried before, make an informed choice, and not one based on a sales pitch trend or just rubbish

Quote, "I'll accept your apology any time for that".
Not while my arse points to the ground, Regards frank.

Originally Posted by bacicat

If you think my opinions are ridiculous, so be it, I have no issue with that. My point (for the last time as I think it's been done to death - 2 months ago) is that an LPG cylinder that hasn't been turned off properly - while stored in a vehicle, could potentially cause someone far more trouble than the lid of a shellite bottle left slightly loose.

If you don't agree, that's fine. I took more issue to you saying that I was having a shot at someone when I clearly wasn't - and that person has even said the same thing.

I'll accept your apology any time for that.

Originally Posted by Tank

Quote, "I'll accept your apology any time for that".
Not while my arse points to the ground, Regards frank.

Figured as much. Now go stand on your head in the naughty corner...

Since we all love accessorising, there is always the option of a gas detector, like you put on a boat with LPG