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    On long trips I run my 40l at 1 1/2 and it's fine as others have said and other vehicle uses their 40l as the freezer fridge - chokkers full of steaks, chops, roasts and snags. And I mean chokkers. They load the meat unthawed so it packs tighter and freeze it down on 240v before being hefted into the car.

    We've been told it needs to be kept to -18C - it starts off on full and then wind it back so it stays around this mark. As we use the meat we get room to place some milk containers of water in there and use these as ice bricks in an esky for vegies and lunch meats etc.

    Anyway we were told by an Engelologist that running as a freezer you need to set it to -18c to keep meat healthy - I don't know the veracity of this claim.

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    My old green/white 39litre Engel is in for repair at the moment, thermostat isn't working properly; ie. not switching off. Anyhoo, I usually run mine no higher than 1 otherwise it starts to freeze things....
    The bloke at the repair place says he's glad he doesn't repair Engels for a living as he'd go broke; Waeco's however....nuff said!
    He also said that he's getting a lot of blown compressors at the moment with people running their fridges off cheap generators. They must be sine-wave generators or you'll fry your electrics and compressor. You have been warned!!!!

    Cheers Chris.

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    ENGEL owners..........

    I ran my 32ltr as a freezer 4 8 weeks on cape york trip with no worries.The 40ltr gets run between 1 & 2.

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    I have a 32L I bought SH. We ran it as a freezer on a 15k km trip to Tassie and back. Packed it 24hrs before we left in the house and set it on 5. By the time we got to norseman we noticed it still wasn't cycling, but everything was frozen. I turned it down to 4 or 4.5 and it started cycling. By the end of the trip I think we had turned it down to 3 and everything was still staying frozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miky View Post
    Once got into a discussion with a fridge mechanic re: waeco v engel etc. and he said he makes good money fixing waecos, rarely sees an engel.
    Are these the old Version A's or the newer Version B's though? New ones have are supposed to be all Danfoss electronics in them.

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    Dont forget guys....

    Parity.... Qty Sold Vs Qty with issues...

    I'd guesstimate that for every 1 engel there are 5 waeco fridges around.
    Simply based on budget and price point...

    Let then say that 1 in every ten fridges has a fault...

    Ratio Engel : Waeco = 1 : 5


    My MT42F has had electrical issues
    My 80L Waeco had a thermostat issue (but they come with a 2nd inbuilt)


    90% of Waeco problems are wiring related (vehicle side, not fridge side) due to insufficient wiring used or poor earthing.

    Engel is more tolerant of voltage drop, it reduces efficiency but they will still run. The Danfoss needs enough capacity to initialise the compressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie2 View Post
    Dont forget guys....

    Parity.... Qty Sold Vs Qty with issues...

    I'd guesstimate that for every 1 engel there are 5 waeco fridges around.
    Simply based on budget and price point...

    Let then say that 1 in every ten fridges has a fault...

    Ratio Engel : Waeco = 1 : 5


    My MT42F has had electrical issues
    My 80L Waeco had a thermostat issue (but they come with a 2nd inbuilt)


    90% of Waeco problems are wiring related (vehicle side, not fridge side) due to insufficient wiring used or poor earthing.

    Engel is more tolerant of voltage drop, it reduces efficiency but they will still run. The Danfoss needs enough capacity to initialise the compressor.

    BS

    Engels have been around how long?....don't see many 20-25year old Waecos about, they weren;t being built then, I'd be willing to hazard a guess and say plenty more engels still about

    4 between myself and old man alone

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    Since 1962 well over three million Engel Portable Fridge-Freezers have been manufactured and sold all over the world

    Source: Engel Australia - Portable Fridge-Freezers

    Anyone have an idea on Waeco numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Since 1962 well over three million Engel Portable Fridge-Freezers have been manufactured and sold all over the world

    Source: Engel Australia - Portable Fridge-Freezers

    Anyone have an idea on Waeco numbers?
    at least over three million and one, i bought one a few weeks back.

    who cares anyway, engel/waceo, toymota/missin, ford/holden..... they all breakdown sometimes. so long as the beer and steaks are cold i'm happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Since 1962 well over three million Engel Portable Fridge-Freezers have been manufactured and sold all over the world

    Source: Engel Australia - Portable Fridge-Freezers

    Anyone have an idea on Waeco numbers?
    Waeco started in 1974. However they originally focussed on the yacht/boating market. I can't remember seeing them in OZ until 10 or so years ago.

    I would also call BS on Tombie's statement unless he can show some facts. I would bet there are a lot more engels in OZ than waecos, and that the average age of an engel is older.

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