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15th March 2010, 03:50 PM
#1
'94 Rangie buyers advice needed
Hi All,
I'm after a little advice on purchasing a '94 Rangie. We currently have a SIIA and a D2 but injury (badly broken clutch leg) has forced me out of the SIIA and the D2 has become the wifes daily driver, so I'm contemplating picking up a '94 Rangie for myself. The market seems to be around the 6k mark for a good unmolested one - does that seem about right?
Mainly I'm after any big pitfalls and/or traps in this model. I know about the EAS issues and have read through most of the relevant posts on here. I do most of my own maintenance on the D2 except where a computer is required so I'm not afraid of the normal landy/rangy issues.
Mainly the car will be my daily driver plus towing the boat occasionally. LPG will be fitted if I buy one without it - any issues there?
Lastly, can someone point me to a list of models/options from that year?
Many thanks,
Adam
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15th March 2010, 04:23 PM
#2
My favourite Rangie model. You can source a used LPG system off any 3.9 D1 as they fit the same (high petrol filler). Generally reliable on LPG providing the ignition is suitably fixed/upgraded. Enjoy.
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15th March 2010, 06:39 PM
#3
Check the usual. Oil leaks, drive train clunks, auto box smoothness and service history.
I have had 2 93-94 models and they loved LPG and only real problems were little electrical issues like central locking, electric seats and sunroofs playing up.
If you are hunting a true 94 it will be a soft dash, a bit more rare but probably worth it.
I also like the air suspension, spend $2-3K on full rebuild and you be laughing.
6K for a good one is cheap though, they are often over 10k and I sold my last one for $12k. Great car, better than my current Disco IMHO of course. They seem to ride so much better.
I just wanted a diesel and they only came to OZ in petrol form.
Happy hunting, if cheap enough, it may be worth putting in a 4.6 also, than they really go the way they look and should have always had.
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15th March 2010, 07:05 PM
#4
They are getting on in years and kms travelled now so unless the previous owner was extremely fastidious [pick me and a mate of mine...lol] things that may need attention could include -
- the vacuum advance diaphragm.
- the head gaskets
- the viscous cooling fan hub
- the radiator may need a total refurbishment [rodding etc rather than just a flush.
- the condition of all fluid hoses
- look for all sorts of leaks
-check that the air suspension does what it shoud and is fairly quick about doing its thing.
- check that both the air conditioner and heater work properly and without leaks.
- check the play in the steering and listen for funny noises when going from lock to lock.
- check the levels, colour and smell of the transmission fluid and also the power ster fluid.
- check the state of the coolant and also be aware that the coolant header tank will be about due to fail due to under bonnet heat. If it is a black one [original] I would replace it.
-check that the front power seats do what they should.
And then get the car checked over by a Landy expert. A couple of hundred dollars spent here may be a very wise investement.
I also think that if you look at the very best then they wil prove to be more expensive to buy but this may turn out to be a saving in the long term.
I wish you well in your search. And do search for a soft dash model. They are the best.
Can't wait to see what you end up with.
Cheers.
Grumbles.
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15th March 2010, 07:11 PM
#5
I had a Late 93 Vouge se from nearly new for 13 years with zero issues, even the air suspension was faultless. I had the petrol tank and pump changed under a recall after 8 years ownership even though there was no apparent problem. After around 100k I changed all the brake disks as they where not looking to flash. More recently I had a similar 93 Vouge Se with the air suspension removed. This car was a lot more "used" and with further abuse from me required a rear diff, both rear half shafts, both front CVJs and lastly a replacement gearbox Viscous coupling ( thanks again Mike 90 rr ) Also had an ignition amp module go and the vacuum advance unit packed up. Had the car converted to LPG and it always ran sweet and strong, no central locking problems and never left me stranded. Last trip was 4500ks without missing a beat. ( then the viscous gave up a week later) All up if you like to tinker and dont mind waiting for cheap parts to arrive a 93 / 94 Vouge SE is a cheapish car to maintain and easy to work on. Parts are readily available second hand and there is a wealth of knowledge to help you along. Only choice for you is do you want an ex garage queen for highish $$ or a used and abused for much less. The Vouge SE has all the toys , leather and Sunroof, My choice.
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15th March 2010, 09:50 PM
#6
Thanks guys. I've seen the term "soft dash" used a few times - what does that mean?
The EAS is the thing that keeps getting quoted to me as being a problem, but is it really that bad? It certainly has a bad rep for sucking up cash.
Cheers,
Adam
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16th March 2010, 10:50 AM
#7
Soft Dash 94
Hi , I had a 94 Vogue SE. It had the " soft dash " which is basically a redesigned dash that eventually found its way into the Disco Series 1. It was more ergonomically sound and presented in a single facsia. Much nicer than my current Vougue 92 SE.
I sold the 94 and a year later bought a 92 Vogue SE. Reason why - less electrics to go wrong particulary the EAS which did cost $3 K to fix. However if you get a cheap one , just wait till it breaks and save the money to get it fixed poroperly , the aftermarket ones a very good or you could retro fit it with coils etc.
Fantastic cars either of them , but like anything with RR ownership be prepared to have a few things go worng and pay to fx them properly. I still believe tat they are th best value car for money when you conside the luxury ride and surrounds they offer for the money. You cant get that in $15K Hyundai buzz box !
Interestingly enough , I found the 92 Vougue SE ( not a single oil Leak ) at 220K Kms is better running and more reliable due to long country hiughway miles than the 94 Vougue SE with 55K Km's of stop star city driving. They definitely like highway miles more than the city miles.
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16th March 2010, 11:01 AM
#8
That luxury ride really comes in to its own with the air suspension.
My belief is that yes, the EAS can be troublesome due to age/distance covered [nothing lasts for ever] but I also think that the incidence of problems reported is not an acurate indicator of the failure rate. People do tend to complain when things go wrong but say nothing when all is working well. Yes - the EAS can cost a dollar to repair but I also think that repair prices are not as steep as they were some years ago.
The other thing is that the RR you buy may have had the system refurbished by the previous owner.
I would never convert my EAS to coil springs.
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16th March 2010, 04:54 PM
#9
So the soft dash is the one that looks like the D1 centre console?
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16th March 2010, 05:16 PM
#10
I can't answer that akelly as I can't lower my standards to get in a Disco and have a look. But a Disco driver who has higher aspirations in auto life might have elevated himself and climbed in to a Rangie so he could tell you for sure.
Go to leave now before the flack arrives.....lol
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