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    4.4 in to rangie

    i looking at putting a leyland 4.4 into my 88 rangie with has a auto box . will the 4.4 drop straight in if not what needs to be done to make it fit????

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    Quote Originally Posted by xj33 View Post
    i looking at putting a leyland 4.4 into my 88 rangie with has a auto box . will the 4.4 drop straight in if not what needs to be done to make it fit????
    Crankshaft-end PCD and diameter is bigger, engine is wider, EFI manifold needs spacer plates (available, I have a bookmark on the site somewhere) engine mounts need adapting and the block drilling for more bolts. This is not as straightforward as in the old days of 4 speed manuals, plus because of emissions laws you won't find it easy to get engineering approval. Get a 4.6, its a drop-in fit.

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    2 door 4.4 in newcastle for scrap prices last week on ebay.
    if it has a B/W auto it is a straight bolt up.other wise you have to add a spacer/adaptor to the leyland driveplate.

    front timing case,cam oil pump drive gears pulleys and extras should be swaped-these are balanced to the crank.

    Ive got SD1 4 engine pipe headers on my P76 and to do this or other manifolds you need rover stater motor modifications.

    the engine passes exhaust emision especially with delco efi
    in other states of OZ an 88 isnt ULP and a 4.4 passes for ADR27's
    My 89 hiline also isnt ULP so you need to check.

    a 3.9 disco motor cost lot less than the fuel and rego mods and testing.dont kow how much a 4.6 conversion would cost.

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    I put a 4.4 in my old 88 Rangie. Big job.
    There were kits on the market that covered many of the necessary mods, not so easy to obtain now I think. The kit I used included the following:
    Rear crankshaft adapter, Spacers for the 3.5 inlet manifold, adapter ring for the RR starter motor (the RR starter motor is more robust than the Leyland one, but the nose of the starter has a different diameter).
    Engine mount adapters I fabricated myself. Bell-housing bolts straight up. Brackets for the PS pump have to be extended 3/4". The standard 3.5 radiator will cool adequately, if towing a fully loaded camper from Gippsland to Broome is any test. Biggest problem I faced is that the EFI off the 3.5 will not supply enough fuel for the 4.4 under full load and the motor will run too lean. I fitted an aftermarket programmable EFI system to enable the injectors to get sufficient duty cycle.
    Cost of this conversion is likely to far exceed the value of any 88 rangie out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Crankshaft-end PCD and diameter is bigger, engine is wider, EFI manifold needs spacer plates (available, I have a bookmark on the site somewhere) engine mounts need adapting and the block drilling for more bolts. This is not as straightforward as in the old days of 4 speed manuals, plus because of emissions laws you won't find it easy to get engineering approval. Get a 4.6, its a drop-in fit.
    The spacer plates will lift the plenum top to a point where it will hit the underside of the bonnet. The 4.4 also don't have the bolt fittings at the front of the RHS head that are used to mount the A/C compressor.

    Using 3.5/3.9 extractors on the 4.4 also require modification to avoid hitting the chassis side rails.

    Follow Bee utey's suggestion and fit a 4.6.

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    going down the 4.6 road at the moment, other than the obvious refresh of the heads is it worth any porting work at the change time, the pumps will all be new or rebuilt, also is it worth the high flow injector swap that is discussed elewhere on forum and do the 4.6 benifit from a mild cam. i'm trying to stay with the alloy block to avoid changing the dynamics of the car. hopfully the changes in power and improved(slight) fuel economy will delay the diesel conversion im still planning down the track

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