Thread: Want to reinstate EAS in 93RRC

you might want to check the legality of an aftermarket or home made eas system if some cluey insurance assesor or mechanic works out your eas isnt factory in the hopefully unlikely event you have an accident.

If there is a fatality or a insuarance claim against the state for medical care of a road accident victim, they will (here in SA anyways) inspect your car with extreme scrutiny looking for failures and worn parts.

But hey if your fanging about on private property then do what you wish

Originally Posted by jsp

you might want to check the legality of an aftermarket or home made eas system if some cluey insurance assesor or mechanic works out your eas isnt factory in the hopefully unlikely event you have an accident.

If there is a fatality or a insuarance claim against the state for medical care of a road accident victim, they will (here in SA anyways) inspect your car with extreme scrutiny looking for failures and worn parts.

But hey if your fanging about on private property then do what you wish

It's not a problem.

Here we have LVVC (Low Volume Vehicle Certification) with a clearly written rule-book for mods that can be done without certification and those that do.
We have 6 monthly safety checks (WOF) where the inspectors (approved mechanics) check all the usual safety related things (lights, tyres, rust etc) and also look out for any modifications that aren't certified.

EAS is a factory system, which requires no cutting/drilling/welding of any structural or safety systems so no certification is needed. Any aftermarket conversion (i.e. not using factory mounts) will need certified and isn't allowed to be adjustable while the vehicle is on the move. The certification side is restricted to the actual suspension, any control system is beyond the call of the certifiers with the single proviso of no manual adjustment while the vehicle is in motion.

But IMO all that is irrelevant as I beleive my safety standards are higher than theirs.

I asked an LVV certifier a few years back about retrofitting factory air suspension. He was unaware of any factory vehicle ever being fitted with air suspension.
As you can imagine, these guys spend almost their entire careers inspecting boy racer cars that have been lowered, had coil-overs fitted or engine conversions. Outside that it's all completely new.

SIX monthly WOF inspections.... and where is the proof that every six months will improve the road toll over a yearly inspection.?

Reading between the lines and the various 'reality' cop shows from NZ, it seems you have a problem with idiot boy-racers out on the public roads. Would'n it be better to deal severely with them, rather than 'everyone'. ? Or would that lead to accusations of "Discrimination"...

Besides, the Law may have a problem with the factory EAS, as it adjusts itself whilst in motion, and can be manually over-ridden on the move as well... locking it IN and OUT of 'Standard Height'.

Originally Posted by superquag

SIX monthly WOF inspections.... and where is the proof that every six months will improve the road toll over a yearly inspection.?

12 months for vehicles under 4 years old. Honestly I'm quite happy with 6 monthly, it keeps a lot of crap off the road.

Originally Posted by superquag

Reading between the lines and the various 'reality' cop shows from NZ, it seems you have a problem with idiot boy-racers out on the public roads. Would'n it be better to deal severely with them, rather than 'everyone'. ? Or would that lead to accusations of "Discrimination"...

Besides, the Law may have a problem with the factory EAS, as it adjusts itself whilst in motion, and can be manually over-ridden on the move as well... locking it IN and OUT of 'Standard Height'.

The basic problem for a while was cheap credit and an abundance of fast cars used out of Japan. Any muppet with a supermarket job could put a dollar down and drive away in a very quick car. Another $10 a week and you get your lowering springs and shiney 18" wheels etc.
I don't know what people like this did before fast cars were cheap, but whatever it was, it was quieter than what they do now.
Christchurch had a real problem with them, but the earthquake fixed that. Suddenly lowered cars couldn't go anywhere.

Automatic height adjustment is something the law here has no opinion of. As long as it doesn't cause any problems, they'll continue to have no opinion of it. They just don't want muppets like the ones above driving along bouncing their cars up and down.

The Oz ADRs require that any air-adjustable system that does not keep the vehicle level must only be able to operate whilst the vehicle is not moving. Examples given are the lowering of the rear or 1 side to facilitate the loading of goods or wheel-chairs etc. Hence decreeing the facility is only for off-road use doesn't allow the regulations to be avoided. In reality who knows what special controls have been fitted and in an accident, as long as the suspension looks standard then its unlikley to be detected. However the absence of height sensors should stick out like a sore thumb to any inspector who has any knowledge of air suspensioned passenger vehicles.

Originally Posted by Graeme

The Oz ADRs require that any air-adjustable system that does not keep the vehicle level must only be able to operate whilst the vehicle is not moving. Examples given are the lowering of the rear or 1 side to facilitate the loading of goods or wheel-chairs etc. Hence decreeing the facility is only for off-road use doesn't allow the regulations to be avoided. In reality who knows what special controls have been fitted and in an accident, as long as the suspension looks standard then its unlikley to be detected. However the absence of height sensors should stick out like a sore thumb to any inspector who has any knowledge of air suspensioned passenger vehicles.

I'm not in Aussie, but why would there be an absence of height sensors and why would you have an air suspension system which does not keep the vehicle level?

Just contemplating the possibility of the height sensors having been removed when a manual air system replaced the original.

Vehicles with air suspension not level for the reasons noted, with the requirement that the vehicle cannot be other than level once moving.