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11th January 2013, 07:36 AM
#1
its dropping a cylinder
hay all,
Well this has been going on for ages now.
It's a hot wire Disco top EFi and I've just installed a fancy Uteey ignition system (thank you), I was hoping that would solve it. no.
As you drive along it just driops a cycldiner. If you turn it off and wait 10 or so seconds it and restart it. all good...
ANy ideas? I 'm thinkning its the ECU. Are these things interchangable? I'm running a 4.6.
Cheers NAT
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11th January 2013, 08:29 AM
#2
Well you know its usually spark or fuel. Pull the plugs and look for one that's a funny colour. A crook insulator will go conductive when hot and misfire. A funny rusty colour indicates water in the cylinder, oil fouling from a bung valve stem seal can also cause problems.
The dissy cap may have a carbon track from a contact inside, polish the cap properly just in case.
Then there's injectors, a dirty or loose plug will lose contact as it heats up. The hotwire Disco setup runs the injectors in two banks of four so an ECU fault would lose you 4 cylinders at a time.
Some people talk about sticking valve guides, you would notice rough idling and uneven cranking speed if this was the case. I haven't actually met that one myself. Could also be a weak valve spring, letting the lifter pump up on the go.
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11th January 2013, 04:52 PM
#3
hmm it could be dropping more, it really feels like theres all of a sudden no power, and its hard to rev.
Does the ECU turn on a set of relays per bank or does it do it directly?
Cheers NAT
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11th January 2013, 05:02 PM
#4
I just had a look at the old spark plugs, that I pulled out last week,
MY chart says it is overheating: Possible causes are overadvanced ignition timing, air/fuel mixture too lean, water or oil level too low, plugs not fitted (tightened) correctly, plug heat range too hot.
They were BPES 4,
I have put in BPES5,
hmmm... I'll check the injector connections and see where I come up with. I am assuming the best way to clean ionjectors is to pull them out and bring to a shop?
When its running usually it pours like a kitten! heaps of power, there usually is a petrol smell as well, thats why I thought it was an igntion issue. petrol.. no spark...
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11th January 2013, 06:10 PM
#5
The positive side of all 8 injectors is fed by one relay, the wires to one side of all injectors is brown/orange stripe. The other side of each set of 4 injectors is yellow + coloured stripe, the two wires go direct to the ECU and there might be a dodgy connector on the ECU plug. If the vehicle was ever on LPG, these wires are often cut to switch off the injectors. Have a look along the injection loom for dodgy joins covered by lotsa sticky tape.
BP5 plugs should be OK. Plug heat range only works if the plugs are tightened correctly. Loose plugs run hotter than tight plugs. I never cease to be amazed at how many people don't tighten plugs correctly, yet they wouldn't not tighten head bolts correctly.
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