If I were you Jeremy, I would snatch the guy's hand off at $1500, take a look over it, and then drive it. If you don't like it, list it on here, and someone will be interested at that price for sure.![]()
Hi everybody!
Heres my story haha
My names Jeremy and I am new to Rangies.
I've had Toyotas all my life and just by chance a couple of months ago i came across a '83 Classic Rangie and i named her "Angie" (yes there was a Rolling Stones song made after her ) with a 4 speed manual, factory A/C and 70,000km on the clock. It was from a local guy whom which i know the people who owned her. I know its hard to believe but i think it is true because i had to change the tyres on Angie just after i bought her and the date stamp on the tyres were 1983 ... I also had to change the brake pads the other day and they were the originals too hahaha and i had to drain the stale fuel out of her which i reckon was 10 years old because it had been sitting in a shed.. I have no service books unfortunately but it all seems to add up.
Angie is in pretty mint condition other that a few little problems from not being driven and sitting for so long. Old paint, saggy roof lining tailgate pucked etc etc.. An old man owned her from new and hardly drove her. She even had a saggy bum but with driving her around it seems to have rectified. Whats the go with that? Is that because the load leveling system has freed itself or something???
I really enjoying driving a 1983 4WD with only 70k on the clock. This vehicle blows my mind where it can go. I put some chunky rubber on her so it climbs walls!! She's absolutely in mint condition with nearly no oil leaks. Well i think that's pretty rare...
When i bought her we had to run start her and she ran like an absolute pig. A young guy did buy it from the old man and was not mechanically minded at all. He had given up lol. I think you have to be a mechanic to own oneSo i bought it from him. As soon as i got her home on the property here i put a new starter (which had a ceased solenoid) on her, a new ignition coil (because all the oil had leaked out of it). I did all that then took it for a drive it still ran like crap. When i purchased her from the young fella he had sourced a second hand set of carbys. I was skeptical about changing these carbs because i noticed they were side draft style Webbers which from history are extremely reliable. So i continued with fault finding and found some vacuum hoses had perished and also the engine air intake chamber that runs across the top of the engine was removed and it must have a diaphragm flapper valve that shares the vacuum to the advance diaphragm. So i just put a plug in the vacuum advance on the distributor. It also had electronic ignition fitted to her. So after all that now this Range Rover absolutely flies!!!
Any way now that i feel i have saved a her life and i have done her a big favour. However she is old, she does like to drink and i'm pretty sure more thing are going to wrong with her from now on.
So my neighbor on the farm next door his father has a P38 Rangie for sale. I'm yet to site it but he has put a new engine and a new compressor in it. It is a '97 or '98. I'm not sure if its a 4.6 HSE but he's willing to give it to me for $1,500.
Questions:
Is it a good price?
What are they like compared to a 1983 reliabilty wise?
I'm sorry but i like the interior in the 1983, the manual box for 4WDing, the layout of the gauges etc.. I'm not quite sure about the P38 interior layout.. Sorry if that offends But they do look verrryy comphy i admit. Should i forget about all that and do you get to like the P38 inside?
The P38 seems to have some extraordinary technology crammed into her. Wow! I never new the P38 had so many computers etc lol. Almost space age for the day haha!! Should i get one of you guys to come with me to check her out? Or can i do it myself? I am a heavy earth moving diesel fitter. I have been through but a fraction of threads in the P38 section on AULRO and it looks a bit scary. With computers, airbags, autos transfers, elect seats bla bla bla....
Also i think i may have the Land Rover disease.. Is there help for me?
Kind regards
Jeremy
If I were you Jeremy, I would snatch the guy's hand off at $1500, take a look over it, and then drive it. If you don't like it, list it on here, and someone will be interested at that price for sure.![]()
I've got an '83 and it's at about the limit of what I can handle with just a carport and a bit more time than most to rebuild it. A P38 just plain has too many electronics for me, especially way up here. I believe that's why they depreciated so much, so quickly.
There's no doubt that it would be comfier and have lots of nifty extras, but you'd just have to be prepared to fix the gadgets as time went on.
You '83 sounds great. Now, these older Rangies have hit about rock bottom in the car world, which is what always happens with an older model when there are a lot around and nobody wants them. In about a decade, there won't be many around at all and then suddenly they'll be collectable. Put the effort into yours and you'll find that you'll be glad you did, especially if you're enjoying it so much already.
It's a car, it'll need work, and you'll probably get sick of it, but never mind that too much if you like the thing. You can't expect a 30-year-old car not to need a lot of attention, so remember what you're getting yourself into.
With such a low mileage, you should be able to rebuild the carbies. They should be Solex/Stromberg CD175 items. There's not much to them and the throttle shafts and so on should be fine. No doubt the dizzy vacuum unit has perished and you may as well replace that and hook up the advance again. And I hope you put engine oil in the gearbox and transfer case!
At any given point in time, somewhere in the world someone is working on a Land-Rover.
Thanks for that Davo.
Okay they are Solex hey. Well that's even better..
She runs like a dream now though mate. It actually really flies for a little bitty 3.5L V8 haha.
I agree with you on the age of her.. 30 years so I'm going to have to expect things.
Well I didn't know it took engine oil in the gearbox!
The transfer I can understand but how does 15w/40 go with the slip properties within the oil go on the syncros after time?
Oil changes and breather extensions are next because I've done about 1000km in her and age hasn't missed a beat. So now I can throw some motion lotion at her.
I tend to agree with you on the price in the future. I can easily hold on to her for a long time now...
Here is a pic
The 83 you'll be able to keep going forever with a shed of spanners and tools.
The 97 you will need to spend several times that $1500 on diagnostic gear to keep it going for the next 10 years.
Both have their place. But long term I see the P38 being the ugly stepchild for landrover enthusiasts and collectors. The classics are a given, the L322 (2003 onwards) was born when diagnostics became standardised. The P38 you could say broke too much new ground for it's own survival.
This one is easy .......... get the modern one and stick the old classic onto a club permit and keep it garaged and in good order .... A 45day logbook is $67.00 in Victoria. You could use the classic for 45 (or 90)days a year for next to nothing. That's what I've done with the range rover classic I've just purchased
seeya
Shane L.
No worries. You'll have to do a bit of reading but basically the engine, gearbox, and transfer case all take 20w-50 engine oil. You have to change the whole lot every 5000km or so. You can't leave it in the transmission for too long as engine oil doesn't last like a modern MTF would, but that's the way the transmission was designed and it's still the easy to way to deal with the car. With a low mileage, that LT95 should be in great condition and if you always do oil changes it should last for a long time.
You can start using a proper MTF in the gearbox but you really, really have to do your homework first. You most definitely don't use gear oil.
My 3.5 is pretty speedy as well, or at least good enough for me! I'm not quite in the LS1 league.
At any given point in time, somewhere in the world someone is working on a Land-Rover.
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