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    Air to coil springs

    Hi All,

    Anyone know of a good place to get information on how to do the change over to coil springs on a 93 Range Rover?

    Have tried searching this site but probably using the wrong words as nothing obviously related comes up, and I imagine this topic has been raised countless times.

    Regards,
    John

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    Just google range rover coil spring conversion and start from there regarding costs, vendors etc,.

    I have a feeling that it may be 'technically' illegal in some eastern states,,,

    - The dampers (shocks) for coils are differant to those for air-springs. You will have no self-levelling unless you install some airbag-inserts into your rear coils... or find a working Boge self-levelling thingy.

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    Hello well after doing it i don't know if its the right choice. Very easy do do
    for any back yarder with a few tools who,s keen enough.
    I used all the suppliers rover craft ,brit parts and auto line gab a manual or print something off the net or you can even buy a complete kit from various places .But regardless of what people say about caster correction you should do this whether its slotted balls or replacement bushes for a two inch lift and you will need airbags in the rear springs to stop the saggy bum when you put a carton of beer in the back.
    The long story is if i was not going to remote places i would never of done it.

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    And here's me wanting to replace the coils with air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    And here's me wanting to replace the coils with air.
    Yes, YES, - Do it! - why should I be the only idiot who re-furbishes his air suspension...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Yes, YES, - Do it! - why should I be the only idiot who re-furbishes his air suspension...?
    Was following a nice Defender 130 with air suspension a couple of weeks ago.
    My two Mercs both have air suspension. Nothing rides like air.


    I wonder what is involved in converting it?
    What are you doing with the old bits you take off John?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    Was following a nice Defender 130 with air suspension a couple of weeks ago.
    My two Mercs both have air suspension. Nothing rides like air.


    I wonder what is involved in converting it?
    What are you doing with the old bits you take off John?
    I was collecting parts to do this when I stumbled across a 93 with intact air suspension, the body colour and interior I wanted all wrapped up with low km's, good history and enough recent burglary damage to scare off all other buyers. Twas a good day.

    Anyway.
    Front shock mounts to the axle casing are the major change. Everything else appears to be pretty much a bolt-across. You will need chassis brackets for the height sensors and mounts on the suspension links. But they are minor compared to the front shock mounts.

    Then it's just a wiring nightmare.

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    My (fading) recollection is that the old (89?) Classic on springs/Boge/Firestone coil inserts at 12psi was smoother over the lumps & bumps than my '95 on air.
    Certainly felt fewer and less of the smaller road imperfections... or maybe stuffed dampers.
    Don't think it had both sway bars either.... rolled a lot even in the car park.

    But I'm happy with my EA$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    My (fading) recollection is that the old (89?) Classic on springs/Boge/Firestone coil inserts at 12psi was smoother over the lumps & bumps than my '95 on air.
    Certainly felt fewer and less of the smaller road imperfections... or maybe stuffed dampers.
    Don't think it had both sway bars either.... rolled a lot even in the car park.

    But I'm happy with my EA$.
    The original classics on 130 lb/in springs were very soft. I run 180lb/in in my diesel classic and it's not a limo, but still very good.
    My EAS classic is firmer, but I have a plan to fix that. It involves plumbing an air reservoir in to each corner to increase the air-spring volume and decrease the spring-rate.

    Just got a thousand other things to do first.

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    "...My EAS classic is firmer, but I have a plan to fix that. It involves plumbing an air reservoir in to each corner to increase the air-spring volume and decrease the spring-rate."

    I recall we discussed this some time ago. - No, have'nt done it either...and I'm pleading the same excuse. (Oh alright, I'm just bone lazy...)

    Two suggestions. Use an expired fire extinguisher, smallest you can find... or better still, air rams which come in infinite sizes...

    Couple ways of using them, Simplest is to discard the piston endcap and replace with the 'fixed' cap. Obviously we're talking about second-hand and using two units to make one reservoir.
    Complex is to use the piston position to vary the capacity of the other (airbag) side. Or even charge it with a pre-set pressure. - From a practical view, not sound as even new ones will leak slightly...

    A sensible starting point would be to measure the capacity of the airbags at normal and 'high' settings, and base the reservoir size on that.
    Last edited by superquag; 20th April 2013 at 10:24 AM. Reason: one more thought...

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