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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    All of the 3.9, 4.0 and 4.6 engines share the same bore size and all have a similar chance of slipping liners. At around 250,000km they all have an about 50/50 chance of being stuffed already. The only cure is to have the engine modified with "top hat" or flanged liners that don't slip. The 4.6 engine fitted with top hat liners and high compression pistons is the nicest LR engine in a Rangie. The 3.9 and 4.0 engines in stock tune are quite disappointing.

    As for LPG, these engines thrive on the stuff, I've converted loads of the things and they are quite reliable providing they are done properly. With a LPG conversion they cost a similar dollar amount to run that a turbo diesel does, except your range between tank fills is quite limited. You might get 300km out of a pair of underslung LPG tanks and 1200km out of a single long range tank in the same place on diesel. So a straight petrol vehicle with the original petrol tank would do around 500km maximum between fill ups, and that's taking it dead easy.

    Hi Bee Utey,


    thanks for sharing your knowledge, very helpful and it makes a bit of sense now as I have had discussions with guys about 'top hat' liners.


    Hey I noticed you are from Crafers, I'm just over the hill at Piccadilly! If you know of anyone selling a 93-94 RRC vogue, please sing out.


    cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsteve View Post
    Hey I noticed you are from Crafers, I'm just over the hill at Piccadilly! If you know of anyone selling a 93-94 RRC vogue, please sing out.


    cheers.
    There's one in Bridgewater you might like to look at:

    1993 Range Rover Vogue SE Duel fuel | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Adelaide Hills - Bridgewater | 1067649623

    I did a short tuneup job on it about a year ago, don't know much about its current condition.

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    "...The 4.6 engine fitted with top hat liners and high compression pistons is the nicest LR engine in a Rangie. The 3.9 and 4.0 engines in stock tune are quite disappointing..."


    More of an embarrasment ...



    ANY engine (in a Classic) that behaved like a tD5 would be my idea of on -target.

    Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that 500 cc per pot for a 4cyl, 600 each in a '6' and 700+ cc in a V8 seems to be the Magic Numbers for a well balanced engine ?
    The more cylinders to be pushed around, the more critical is the lower-limit, which gives the 4cy the greatest range of useable displacements, whereas the 8 cyl. is very limited.


    James in WA,
    the Lady Sarah, MY1995 3.9 Vogue SE with working EAS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    ..............ANY engine (in a Classic) that behaved like a tD5 would be my idea of on -target..........
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    Guess I'll have to figure out how to get the oil pump to fall off into the sump in my 350.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Guess I'll have to figure out how to get the oil pump to fall off into the sump in my 350.

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    Anyone that could make up and engineered, simple conversion kit to install a 350chev ( or LS ) into a RR Classic would probably find themselves inundated with people wanting them ..... As a bonus, all the parts sellers would make a fortune out of selling diffs, CV's and axles

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Anyone that could make up and engineered, simple conversion kit to install a 350chev ( or LS ) into a RR Classic would probably find themselves inundated with people wanting them ..... As a bonus, all the parts sellers would make a fortune out of selling diffs, CV's and axles

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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    Problem is anything apart from the LT95 will self destruct with a SBC in front of it.
    Interesting .... what if it's not fitted with massive mud tires.... Infact is bog standard in every way (ie: you trying to increase the torque available for towing at speed as opposed to rock crawling). ie: won't be an offroad mud runner. I imagine the drivetrain components would last better in high range without the massive shock loading going through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Anyone that could make up and engineered, simple conversion kit to install a 350chev ( or LS ) into a RR Classic would probably find themselves inundated with people wanting them ..... As a bonus, all the parts sellers would make a fortune out of selling diffs, CV's and axles

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    I bought my first one with a 350 / LT95 / lpg combo 10+ years ago.

    I still have the Hadfield (Castlemaine) paperwork somewhere about the adaptor plate that goes between the 350 and LT 95 in its original position, i.e. original trans mounts, original propshaft lengths.

    The engine mounts are different, in my case welded, but I am sure Marks do bolt on ones.

    For me a bolt up a C9 / chopped LT 95 engineered by Ritters was easy as....... all I needed was a custom torque convertor. Transformed the thing from truck to nice.

    Always have run stock diffs and 10 splines, gets floored on road, no probs. Done 300k k's with this motor, which already had 300 on it after a rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    Problem is anything apart from the LT95 will self destruct with a SBC in front of it.
    A C9 to handle 700 hp can be rebuilt and bulletproofed for 850 or less. If you get one of the original Ritters conversions with the chopped off LT 95's (which probably go to the tip these days} you're on a winner.

    A 350 doesn't need a 9 speed auto.

    cheers, DL

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that 500 cc per pot for a 4cyl, 600 each in a '6' and 700+ cc in a V8 seems to be the Magic Numbers for a well balanced engine ?
    The more cylinders to be pushed around, the more critical is the lower-limit, which gives the 4cy the greatest range of useable displacements, whereas the 8 cyl. is very limited. ...
    Not having a slag off mate, but I've read that back in Mike Haiiwood's day Honda in the 60's (the Chinese of today) were running a 4 cyl 125 cc, a 6 cyl 250, and an 8 cyl 500 with the two wheelers and actually did quite well on the world stage.

    I know the 125 revved to something like 20k haha.

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