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Thread: New project 89 vogue

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    At the moment the plan is to make it a bit of a tourer, however it will really depend on the state of the engine and what gets picked on taking it over the pits.

    So would this be a 3.5 then?
    Was assuming it was Hotwire injection, or is it older flapper system?

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    It has the viscous transfer case so I would assume that it is a 3.9.

    Have a look at the compliance and see what date is on it.

    Either way you can't lose at the price you got it for, have fun.
    Neale

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    Viscous transfer came in 1989 when it was still a 3.5. This car has a 3.5 plenum (no 3.9 cast into it) & a flapper type AFM so it's an '89 3.5.


    It does have the "Land Rover" badge on the grille though. From new, that was fitted to the 1990 3.9 cars but it just clips on so it's been fitted afterwards on your car.
    Scott

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    That's where I made the mistake, I thought the viscous was released when they changed to the 3.9.
    Neale

    85 Range Rover Ute (Project in pieces)
    89 Range Rover Classic (Black Thunder)
    93 200tdi Disco,(OGRE)
    96 300tdi Disco, DEAD MOTOR
    04 Nissan Patrol with ALL the fruit
    09 Cub Daintree Kamperoo
    12 VE II Commodore Ute DD

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    Had a stroke of luck today. Threw a battery in the car and managed to get it started on petrol. Seemed to choke on gas. Found that the gas/petrol relay switch wasn't earthed, so it wasn't switching off the petrol when the gas came on.
    Once that was sorted, it started and ran pretty well.

    Bit of a ticking sound coming from around the dizzy or passenger side head.

    Oil looks clean, but cooling system needs a lot of work.

    Air con does work but needs a re gas.

    Didn't try the moon roof...


    Going to see what a radiator re core is worth this week.
    Where is the best place to find tail light lenses?

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    Update time.

    Gas system is working properly.
    Got the switch wired in properly and it switches over seamlessly.

    Was given a free disco radiator that has done the job.
    Tidied up/replaced a few bits in the interior such as door cards and steering wheel garnish, switches...

    Still missing electric seat switches but thinking of ditching the leather anyway and throwing some spare cloth trim seats in there.

    Got all the lights and indicators working, so all the car needs is some proper front bumper bolts to hold the bullbar on properly, and to fit the radiator shroud, then it's probably road worthy.

    Not sure if the power windows work yet as all the switches are missing. Same with the central locking - not working at this stage but haven't looked too far into it yet.

    Needs a good wash, I'm pretty excited about owning a classic with air con and decent brakes!

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    Fitment of new gas switch before solder and tidy up..

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    Also, moon roof was kinda stuck. We managed to get it open and kind of working, but then something came off and it won't move under its own power again. The rails were not greased very well...
    Was looking through the workshop manual but couldn't find much, anyone know how to pull apart the sun/moon roof to fix it?

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    Nope...

    There are little slider location spring thingies that hold the inner slide in place...these can/will break and on mine...one jammed the top (glass) slider about half-way open.
    Lots of compressed air, poking around with stiff wire and adjectives.... moved it.
    Eventually...

    You may need to drop the lining out to gain visual access... - it IS sagging, - isn't it ?

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    Update time.

    So got this running and started sizing up the project.

    Found a long list of problems:
    • Engine lacks power.
    • Sunroof is stuck/broken
    • Seats need replacing
    • Wiring issue in ignition loom, seems to be a dodgey wire or connection
    • Suspension needs replacing
    • Aircon needs regas
    • Oil leak from sump
    • Electric windows won't work
    • Central locking doesn't work
    • Wipers are stuck on (relay?) - pulled fuse to stop
    • Need to replace bull bar
    • Need to fit UHF



    Was considering parking it up until I had the time and motivation to do it.
    Then I took it for a drive (on gas) and it literally popped and stopped.
    The intake pipe had blown off the manifold, so I assume it has stuffed the flapper AFM. I was able to get it running (barely), but it sounds like a tractor and there is a whistle coming from the intake.


    Any thoughts?

    I was already considering parking this thing up or just abandoning this project and moving onto something else... Opinions?

    I picked this car up as I thought it would be an upgrade to my rough-as-guts 84 3.5 with a holley.
    Driving it, it has better steering and brakes, but the lack of grunt was really disappointing.

    Is the 3.5 EFI worth fixing? Or should I be looking for a 3.9 EFI?

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