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16th November 2015, 01:48 PM
DAMINK

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Originally Posted by alien

Each occasion has been in Wombat SF with folks from another forum.
The Rangie with 24 in the tyres and doing a softly softly approach seams to work well.
As the suspension is fairly soft they flex well allowing for better grip.
The others on muddies had tighter suspension, mostly IFS and found they had tyres lifting.
They needed a second bite at some tracks with a bit more pace to compensate.
A lot is to do with the lines you use, tyre pressure, and not having spinning wheels.

Sounds to me its more about driver ability and not vehicles.
Correct tyre pressure and approach.
Are the rangies also open wheel diffs?

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Originally Posted by alien

Ree the Nissan being the leading rig.
In it's day, that was the thought for the GQ as it was a coil sprung live axle vehicle.
Funny thing is the RRC had the same suspension 17 years earlier if I'm correct.
The RRC didn't need to be fitted with a disconnect for the rear sway bar to flex either:wasntme:

What about there quality of drivetrain?
I was under the impression they were pretty much the leader in that department?
16th November 2015, 06:01 PM
Rick1970

As far as brute strength in standard form, yes the Nissans are pretty hard to beat, and probably have one of the better factory LSD's. Its all heavy and big tho, which isn't always ideal, expecially if your only running moderately sized tyres.
16th November 2015, 06:29 PM
Homestar

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Originally Posted by DAMINK

Really? Like where if i may ask as this confuses me.

I've seen it first hand on more than one occasion. Kyles old RRC with highway tyres - and a saggy arse (the Rangie, not Kyle :) ) he has managed to get it places I was very surprised at - including some terrain I've seen lifted vehicles with mud terrain tyres struggle on.

The RRC suspension in standard form just keeps the wheels on the ground sooo much better than most setups and that is worth its weight in gold.

Having said that, He is a good wheel turner as well, which helps a lot.

I have 31" muddies on my big stock RRC and that's gone places easily I didn't think it would. :)
16th November 2015, 06:31 PM
DAMINK

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Originally Posted by bacicat

I've seen it first hand on more than one occasion. Kyles old RRC with highway tyres - and a saggy arse (the Rangie, not Kyle) he has managed to get it places I was very surprised at - including some terrain I've seen lifted vehicles with mud terrain tyres struggle on.

The RRC suspension in standard form just keeps the wheels on the ground sooo much better than most setups and that is worth its weight in gold.

I have 31" muddies on my big stock RRC and that's gone places easily I didn't think it would. :)

Open diff or lsd in these? Just curious.
So the RRC suspension is that much better than.... toyota, nissan or jeep?
I ask because i dont know.
16th November 2015, 06:37 PM
Homestar

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Originally Posted by DAMINK

What sort of Nissan?
I had to get pulled out by a GU nissan only a few days ago actually.
By all accounts i thought they were the leading 4x4. Certainly based on the strength of the drive train.

Every Nissan owner will tell you that - the proofs in the pudding. Most don't want to know there are other very capable vehicles out there. And, as mentioned, the RRC was doing all this back in the early 70's when at the time, nothing else came close.

I love it when friends say 'I just popped it into 4WD and drove away' to which I reply 'That's right, you have to worry about those sort of things'. The other one is 'Mate, my new <Insert brand here> is full time 4x4! To which I reply 'It only took them 40 years to catch up, good for them' :D
16th November 2015, 06:39 PM
Homestar

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Originally Posted by DAMINK

Open diff or lsd in these? Just curious.
So the RRC suspension is that much better than.... toyota, nissan or jeep?
I ask because i dont know.

Open diffs, just a centre diff lock as required. With an LSD or locker in the rear, or double diff locked front and rear, they're even better. :). Second question - Yes, by miles. The suspension travel of a stock RRC is the best there's been on the maket - again, since the 70's. People may hang **** on out choice of vehicles, but technically, they cannot argue the point, Range Rovers have been doing it better since the very beginning.
16th November 2015, 06:43 PM
DAMINK

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Originally Posted by bacicat

Every Nissan owner will tell you that - the proofs in the pudding. Most don't want to know there are other very capable vehicles out there. And, as mentioned, the RRC was doing all this back in the early 70's when at the time, nothing else came close.
:D

I have never owned a Nissan. But i have been in them. They perform well. I am shocked people here say otherwise. Me out in the bush with my mates. There cars out perform mine easily. Thats just the facts.

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Originally Posted by bacicat

Open diffs

Enough said. They cant compete any better than a disco can.
Single wheel versus a lsd. COME ON!
16th November 2015, 06:48 PM
Homestar

Are you talking about standard vehicle all around or modified? If you had a standard 80's or 90's RRC or Disco it would run rings around an equivalent Nissan or Toyota offering - I guarantee it.

If they are running 'fully sick 35's with double diff locks' against a standard Landy then things might be different.

I used to live in Churchill - I know the types that hang out there. ;). (No offence intended, I was one of 'em :D )
16th November 2015, 06:54 PM
DAMINK

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Originally Posted by bacicat

I used to live in Churchill - I know the types that hang out there. ;). (No offence intended, I was one of 'em :D )

None taken mate lol.

I typically run around with 2 mates.
1 has a QU with 2 inch lift and about 32 inch muddies.
1 has a land cruiser with 2 inch lift and stockies.

Me and the cruiser are comparable in some ways.
Me and the nissan are not. He runs rings around me.
I actually have more clearance than the datsun too!

Its the LSD on both that catches me out guys. That simple.
They have a higher % of wheels turning.
Its why im looking at either welding my diff or getting a locker.
So i can be the guy NOT getting bogged or stuck lmfao.
I DO NOT have a preference for any car. I just want one that works well you see.
Dunno how i hijacked this thread but i did lol.
16th November 2015, 06:57 PM
DeanoH

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Originally Posted by bacicat

...................The RRC suspension in standard form just keeps the wheels on the ground sooo much better than most setups and that is worth its weight in gold..................

And that Staplehead01 is why your 20+ year old RRC in standard form will **** on all other comers (in standard form).

Land Rover with the RRC re-invented off road suspension. The long travel coils, live axles and A frame rear end work to keep all wheels on the ground. Coupled with a soft right foot will get you places that the modern IFS, torsion bar etc overweights can only dream of.

Keep your money for maintenance, you'll need it, but I reckon you'll be surprised how far your stock standard RRC can go. You don't need the **** factor of 3" lifts, 35" wheels, sway bar disconnects etc, you've already got the performance the others aspire to. Get out there and use it. :D

Deano :)

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