just got my first rangie

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Originally Posted by DAMINK

None taken mate lol.

I typically run around with 2 mates.
1 has a QU with 2 inch lift and about 32 inch muddies.
1 has a land cruiser with 2 inch lift and stockies.

Me and the cruiser are comparable in some ways.
Me and the nissan are not. He runs rings around me.
I actually have more clearance than the datsun too!

Its the LSD on both that catches me out guys. That simple.
They have a higher % of wheels turning.
Its why im looking at either welding my diff or getting a locker.
So i can be the guy NOT getting bogged or stuck lmfao.
I DO NOT have a preference for any car. I just want one that works well you see.
Dunno how i hijacked this thread but i did lol.

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So ya 2wd D1 will be a 3wd D1 But still not a 4wd D1:tease:

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Originally Posted by DeanoH

And that Staplehead01 is why your 20+ year old RRC in standard form will **** on all other comers (in standard form).

Land Rover with the RRC re-invented off road suspension. The long travel coils, live axles and A frame rear end work to keep all wheels on the ground. Coupled with a soft right foot will get you places that the modern IFS, torsion bar etc overweights can only dream of.

Keep your money for maintenance, you'll need it, but I reckon you'll be surprised how far your stock standard RRC can go. You don't need the **** factor and of 3" lifts, 35" wheels, sway bar disconnects etc, you've already got the performance the others aspire to. :D

Deano :)

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Come drive around here and see how far your stock suspension and stock wheel setup will get ya. Not to mention single wheel diffs.
I guarantee first rutted area we go to you will get crossed up like a turtle.
Thats before we go to the good places.
Invite is there to anyone who owns a stock RR and thinks there that good.
I run 33s with 2 inch lift and get my diffs stuck. What hope do you have with saggy stock springs lol.

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Originally Posted by rangieman

So ya 2wd D1 will be a 3wd D1 But still not a 4wd D1:tease:

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That it will mate. But 3 wheels is much better than 2.
Annoys the hell out of me just quietly RRRRRRRROOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
In an ideal world i would get a locker in the rear and a true track in the front.
But if i spend that much my wife will cut my private pieces off so thats out of the question for now.

Damink i am not blind to some good 4wd in other brands. I think part of the thing that makes LR be so competent is the light weight for such a solid truck. Smaller diffs are solid enough but with method in madness they dont hang down anywhere near as much as Nissan diffs do on Patrols. Stock articulation in solid axle LR is a thing of beauty too. Cheers

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Originally Posted by DAMINK

Enough said. They cant compete any better than a disco can.
Single wheel versus a lsd. COME ON!

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Not always. Followed a late model Hilux, its LSD was useless if it could not keep both rear wheels on the ground, and it got wheels off the ground real easy due to limited suspension travel. My std opened diffed D1 barely spun a wheel where the Hilux really struggled, mainly due to keeping all wheels on the ground.

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Originally Posted by Mercguy

Tell me about it!




I too have discovered that my standard RRC on cooper ATR's is still more effective as an off-road vehicle, than the modified Navara D40's and D22's my friends run.

Recently with the viscious local storms, we were out clearing the local roads, snatching fallen trees and moving them safely off the road. The RRC made mincemeat of the task, whereas the D22, (which was the most modified - turbo, tune, lift, lockers..) was not able to pull the heavier trees or do it as quickly.

quite surprising really. I thought my asthmatic rover v8 would be shamed by the 'tuff-trucks' but I ended up smiling quite a lot. My mates eventually got sick of doing it in their trucks and became passengers in the RRC, while we completed the task. There is nothing funnier than seeing a Nissan guy sitting in the back and his jaw literally drop when you put it in low and simply drive away without feeling it. They had slightly bruised ego's when I reminded them it was a completely original standard 25 year old vehicle.

The D40 owner reminded me that his truck was more powerful and had more torque - and I quipped, if it was so f-ing good, why can't it perform a simple task like snatching a fallen tree without repeatedly stalling halfway. He shut up after that.

These old vehicles may have some reliability issues, but they sure do surprise you with their capabilities. Just when you think you're too far gone, it literally pulls one out of the proverbial and keeps on going.

There is an old disused quarry about an hour away, which gets a workout every now and then. I'm yet to go there on my M/T's because the M/T's are a hassle to fit for a short trip, the AT's are more than enough, even in the wet when it's really scrabbly and ugly.

I don't have a winch either, and haven't needed one, but my mates have, and have used them on the same tracks when we've gone through together.

I think there is a very valid argument for the traction claims, I'm sure that with M/T's on the RRC would be an even better weapon than it already is.

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Its even better with a 350.

DL

I am currently running a discovery transfer box and discovery auto, if i run 32's would i need to put a defender transfer to drop the gearing down a bit?

I'm currently running disco auto and transfer do i need to drop a defender transfer in to drop the gearing a bit if i run 32's?

Not nessesarliy, but you will feel the difference in how it drives on the highway. The Defender TC will help a bit though.

If you wand better off-road ability, 1st thing I would do is fit a LSD to rear with strengthened axles.

That Rangie was a bargain. Congratulations.