Thread: just got my first rangie

Sound advice.

-Get bogged/stuck/embarrassed a few times before trying to spend a fortune on 'extras'. You'll be impressed with how far it will take you, and over what terrain. - On standard tyres...

- And go with a more experienced person and their vehicle.

It all comes down to driver ability regardless of what you own not the vehicle although being biased a old RRC with good suspension set-up will match or do better than most of the Jap crowd with similar mods. The bonus that you didn't have to spend a small fortune on it to improve it's off-road ability.

As good as other 4WD's are would still have an old Rangie over a modern day 4WD despite it's reliability issues, I don't like Japanese cars or 4WD's. Well made and reliable but dull, boring and about as much personality as a brick wall.

Trav

Originally Posted by dungarover

It all comes down to driver ability regardless of what you own not the vehicle

Quite simply don't agree with this.
I agree one driver could avoid a situation when others miss it but to do a comparison one really would need to remove driver ability from the equation.

To compare vehicles i would put them both in the exact same situations and base my result off that.
Anything else is just bias.

As I said one driver will look at a situation totally different to another and figure out a way though without fuss. It depends on your type of driving, bashing though mud holes like a flog isn't what I call 4WDing any idiot can do that. I prefer technical type stuff, having to think about how to drive it

Anyway I stand by my argument. At the end of the day some people couldn't drive a greasy stick up a pigs arse as 4WDers, we've all come a cropper on the tracks at times (me included, lot of times ) just some people have NFI of what to do.

Trav

Originally Posted by dungarover

As I said one driver will look at a situation totally different to another and figure out a way though without fuss. It depends on your type of driving, bashing though mud holes like a flog isn't what I call 4WDing any idiot can do that. I prefer technical type stuff, having to think about how to drive it

Anyway I stand by my argument. At the end of the day some people couldn't drive a greasy stick up a pigs arse as 4WDers, we've all come a cropper on the tracks at times (me included, lot of times ) just some people have NFI of what to do.

Trav

Trav some people just dont get it , Honestly its like flogging a dead horse with the few that play in bottomless pits
Let those argue as they know alot about a little and a little about a lot (End of quote)

Originally Posted by rangieman

Trav some people just dont get it , Honestly its like flogging a dead horse with the few that play in bottomless pits
Let those argue as they know alot about a little and a little about a lot (End of quote)

So true you are

Trav

Originally Posted by rangieman

Trav some people just dont get it , Honestly its like flogging a dead horse with the few that play in bottomless pits
Let those argue as they know alot about a little and a little about a lot (End of quote)

What an arrogant thing to say.
If im not mistaken the discussion was about one vehicles ability compared to anothers and not driver ability.
One more time, Vehicles ability NOT driver ability.
That simple. Typically one would use the same driver to test multiple vehicles in order to prevent the driver component to the comparison.

I used to be biased towards the concept that 'driver' ability being far more important than 'vehicle' capability, until I took the recently purchased '95 Classic down part of our 'Powerlines Track'.
Only went down a bit, the idea was to sit and watch the locals traverse it, sort of Watch & Learn exercise as it was 40+ years since being seriously off-road .

I'd gently gone down a steep rocky section, nice and slow as befitted my inexperience... no dramas, or risk of being stuck/damaged. Going alone made me extra cautious.

Did'nt take long for the Shiny New Jappy brigade to show up, Roll-luxes, Forzdas and assorted 4WDs/AWDs

Was quite educational, noisy revving, swearing bouncing and near-misses and bottoming as they risked ego and wallet to make hard work of the same section the Lady Sarah had floated down;

- In 2WD....

(BW viscous coupling gone solid, so the front prop-shaft removed and on the back floor, just in case...)

Sure, I might have been the smarter driver on the day, but it still speaks volumes on the innate agility of a stock Classic with air suspension.

Yes, I did drop my tyres from their usual 32 to around 22 psi, but that can't account for such a difference. Besides, they were cheap Chinese 'H/T' tyres.

So, IMHO I submit that the RR was/is more capable off the show-room floor than it's contemporaries, - and some of their descendants...

James in Gosnells,

the Lady Sarah, '95 Softdash with working EAS.
(Don't mention the War, sunroof leaks, - or transfer case...)