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    Shane,

    Stick with Acrylic ...its easy to work with and as you have stated the key is prep work.

    I believe Acrylics do need a couple of weeks for the paint to actually harden properly .... my brother was a manager of Dulux and they did a lot of testing of their paints.

    Like you Rangie my 2Dr was looking a bit rough so I did a quick one weekend respray outside in a yard at a mates factory.

    Didn't have a lot of time to concentrate on the prep ...body is straight and by the time we finished masking we were spraying in the late afternoon with the temperature dropping .... not
    good however the results speak for itself.

    Still turned out OK .... that was in 2014 .... paint hasn't suffered too much although my baby is gathering dust under a carport awaiting an engine rebuild


    Cheers

    Baggy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggy View Post
    Shane,

    Stick with Acrylic ...its easy to work with and as you have stated the key is prep work.

    I believe Acrylics do need a couple of weeks for the paint to actually harden properly .... my brother was a manager of Dulux and they did a lot of testing of their paints.

    Like you Rangie my 2Dr was looking a bit rough so I did a quick one weekend respray outside in a yard at a mates factory.

    Didn't have a lot of time to concentrate on the prep ...body is straight and by the time we finished masking we were spraying in the late afternoon with the temperature dropping .... not
    good however the results speak for itself.

    Still turned out OK .... that was in 2014 .... paint hasn't suffered too much although my baby is gathering dust under a carport awaiting an engine rebuild


    Cheers

    Baggy
    That brings back memories ... that is a very similar red to the first car I painted. The flat colours such as that seem to last better (well the bird **** and tree sap stains don't show as much either way). The paint actually discolours and blisters under bird **** and sap. If you paint that acrylic paint when its too cold, it goes on cloudy (guess how I know this ). Weirdly it sands away once its cured enough though.

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    Hi Shane

    Yes the clear in the paint can discolour or become cloudy due to cold and moisture in the air.

    It took longer than expected to mask vehicle as we had to drive it to my mates place before we could remove lights etc

    We then had a problem with spray gun and had to go and purchase new one

    Murphy's Law ...what started as a good idea ....just a quick spray and tidy up became a full on production number.

    Got there in the end although the only thing that annoys me is a slight dent (tow ball into taikgate) that I didn't repair because it was a quick blow over to look reasonable .... It's the only dent in a very straight body.

    You'ld remember the old enamel paint .... Beautiful shine from outset except for the orange peel pattern in paint ...drying time .... and becoming powdery when old.

    Memories .....

    Baggy
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    96 V8i Disco - Sadly gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baggy View Post
    Hi Shane

    Yes the clear in the paint can discolour or become cloudy due to cold and moisture in the air.

    It took longer than expected to mask vehicle as we had to drive it to my mates place before we could remove lights etc

    We then had a problem with spray gun and had to go and purchase new one

    Murphy's Law ...what started as a good idea ....just a quick spray and tidy up became a full on production number.

    Got there in the end although the only thing that annoys me is a slight dent (tow ball into taikgate) that I didn't repair because it was a quick blow over to look reasonable .... It's the only dent in a very straight body.

    You'ld remember the old enamel paint .... Beautiful shine from outset except for the orange peel pattern in paint ...drying time .... and becoming powdery when old.

    Memories .....

    Baggy
    Oh yes... emanel. Only once, my grandfather helped me paint my first car. I thought I'd done a really good job at repairing the hail damage ........ My grandfather said "no it all needs to be done again".... But I insisted it was really good.............. Yep, my grandfather sure does know his stuff. The repaired hail damage stood out like dogs balls as soon as that shiny enamel went on (well I couldn't really afford anything but enamel when I was 16). Sadly I'm now in my early 40's and still can't afford to paint my $800 ****box properly either Maybe when I'm in my 60's .............. 'cos no dbout the old rangie will be sitting in the shed lined up beside all my other old ****boxes (most likely covered in mud with something swinging from its towbar still)

    Yes, I think I'll go acrylic dulon. That will allow for the simplest repairs. If I buy some tuscan blue, I can also paint it one panel at a time and fit them to the car as I go (knowing me it'll take a couple of years to get it done). I'm not sure how I'm going to get all this stuff done. I need to repair the rangie as it's the only fully registered car I have... I'm halfway through throwing up a leanto on the shed. We are trying to extend the house (no I'm not doing it myself.... I just want to be able to walk into it finished... otherwise it'll never get done).... And I still have the 4 club permit cars, all of which need work (I'm hoping to get the Traction gearbox rebuilt this winter for starters).

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    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:

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    Here you go Shane - problem solved! 👍😆



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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Here you go Shane - problem solved! 👍😆

    bloody hell...... "Look how good it came out" ..... bloody shockers or what. You know what ..... They are happy with it .... So good on them Its certainly not for me though (look at the time they saved not masking anything!).

    seeya
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    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.9V8 ... slugomatic
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:

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    Yeah, was laughing hard while watching it - can't believe anyone would think that looked good, the primer looked better.


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    1986 Classic RR - 'Thing'
    1976 Series III Tray
    1997 Honda CBR1000F
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    I am in the process of experimenting with an 87 classic which has dents and scrapes on every panel and ANYTHING I do to it will improve it. Just doing the bonnet to work out if its a skill I can learn or not as I have a few cars I would love to repaint in the long run, and I have always wanted a Tuscan blue two door so one I am thinking of making a white one blue...... The more I read online and watch on youtube the more confusing it all gets, so many options and methods and different types of products.

    All I know its lots of sanding and lots of refilling the few little bits so far and then I put a bit of primer on and think man look at all the little bits I missed - start again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp View Post
    I am in the process of experimenting with an 87 classic which has dents and scrapes on every panel and ANYTHING I do to it will improve it. Just doing the bonnet to work out if its a skill I can learn or not as I have a few cars I would love to repaint in the long run, and I have always wanted a Tuscan blue two door so one I am thinking of making a white one blue...... The more I read online and watch on youtube the more confusing it all gets, so many options and methods and different types of products.

    All I know its lots of sanding and lots of refilling the few little bits so far and then I put a bit of primer on and think man look at all the little bits I missed - start again!

    IMG_20180715_195226[1].jpg
    Forget what you can see.... You need to go by touch. You will soon learn if its straight by running your hand over it. If its not perfect, you ***will*** be able to tell. I enjoy painting and tinkering with my own junk. That primer you are using is crap. I can see the repairs through it. If you want to use a cheap acrylic primer. Find some Hichem super etch epoxy primer. You can buy it in pressure packs if you don't want ot clean a gun when you just doing small repairs. I'm guessing its based on an industrial paint. It is the best single part primer I've ever used and seems to stick to anything.

    SUPER ETCH PRIMER GREY 4L EPOXY METAL NEW MILD STEEL HICHEM SPRAY PAINT 9315744002328 | eBay

    this stuff. Just get it from your local auto-paint store. ebay is to expensive with postage.

    seeya
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    Proper cars--
    '92 Range Rover 3.9V8 ... slugomatic
    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:

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    Over any repairs I make, I brush on a couple of coates of primer filler and then sand that back off. Covers a lot of imperfections
    cheers
    blaze

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