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That Bar you have is a Original ARB very rare and technically illegal [bigwhistle]

They were produced up to about 1983 and are designed to cut through Roo`s and pedestrians :Thump:.

I had one on a 83 RRC and had a meeting with a car in about 96 the bar had a slight bend and this is where the rules are bizarre [bighmmm]

Insurance wanted to repair the bar but due to the bar being a original fitment it was legal on the car but once removed it then became illegal and could not be refitted so i got a new bar out of it .
Id be careful if you get any anal cop`s they could honestly defect you for that bar for that year car[thumbsupbig]

My bars from a RRC it dosnt have the returns, find a disco bar and we can swapsies [emoji16]

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Originally Posted by rangieman

That Bar you have is a Original ARB very rare and technically illegal [bigwhistle]

They were produced up to about 1983 and are designed to cut through Roo`s and pedestrians :Thump:.

I had one on a 83 RRC and had a meeting with a car in about 96 the bar had a slight bend and this is where the rules are bizarre [bighmmm]

Insurance wanted to repair the bar but due to the bar being a original fitment it was legal on the car but once removed it then became illegal and could not be refitted so i got a new bar out of it .
Id be careful if you get any anal cop`s they could honestly defect you for that bar for that year car[thumbsupbig]

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I can understand the rules on bullbars... You have all the people that never leave town ... or go offroad fitting those huge 5 posters ( as they became a fashion accessory )... Once the bar is that heavy and strong ... you just bend the chassis if you hit anything hard (a bar is easier to replace than a chassis).

I believe you that its not technically legal ... I also believe I don't give a **** about the majority of laws [bigwhistle] [bigwhistle] You see if something that weighs 2.5'ish tons hits you.... bull bar or not, your are likely to be history. My wife has a modern french car. Its has stupidly expensive wiper blades. The idea is they are "pedestrian friendly" .... Dunno about you, but I'd be more concerned about being run over by the 2 ton car that I would be about wiper blades scratching me as I go over the roof [bighmmm] (that little car weight 1.7tons empty would you believe :o ... so easily 2tons loaded).

Playing at re-instating the interior at the moment ... Hopefully that can be done tomorrow..... Then all the other bits and pieces can be done as I get time (as the car will then be drivable while they are being done). Everything electrical except the demister fans is working (bugger, I hope they are just unplugged somewhere). If I can get them working, I'll gas up the A/C. Its certainly not nice driviing with the window harness removed and no A/C or fans :)

I just pulled the speedo apart as the trip meter doesn't reset properly and "clicks" rather than rolling over. You know, I can't see anything obvious wrong, and I wasn't going to pull the trip meter itself to bits. So that was a fun waste of time too.

seeya,
Shane L.

This is the story of my life .... spending hours achieving nothing ... Those damn interior fans.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190985.jpg

the fusible links look fine ... the fuse looks fine, also power at the fuse.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190987.jpg

This would frustrate you to tears .... I only just had all the stuff in bits.... for months!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190988.jpg

Every test I can think of is coming back fine. I found the plug for the resistor pack.... The resistors seem to measure fine ...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190990.jpg

In desperation I pulled the resisters from the other car .......... and look at that. Custom made resistor pack sitting on a heat sink. (nice!) But still no god damn fans. I have thrown this into the scuttle beside the other resistor pack. I'll leave them both fitted incase one ever dies.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190991.jpg

In desperation I pulled out the switch to test (this would drive you crazy, the mongrel fans worked when the car was parked)..... Anyway, look what I found! Its strange the voltages seemed ok at the resistor block when the switch is burnt like this.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190992.jpg

This wasn't as simple as you would expect. Note: This is the housing from the other car ... I also had to splice in two of the wires from the other car..... Why not simply rewire it ?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190995.jpg

Look at the variety of connectors and terminals i have here .... I could couldn't just rewire the thing.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190993.jpg

I started crimp/soldering new brass terminals on .... when I found it has those bastard type housing you need to weird spade terminals for.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190996.jpg

See how the spade terminal have a narrow tip ... that matches the housing. Only this type will fit.

So, I re-assemble it all .............................. To find no fans ... :wallbash: :wallbash: This is how I spend hours on a car and achieve absolutely nothing. I've pretty much ruled out all of the circuit ... Which leave only the fan unit itself or the earth point for the fan. So I spent quite a bit of time looking for the earth point ( I still haven't found it). The heater boxs looks like the entire thing is made of plastic, so the earth point can't be inside. I gave the heater box a tap with my finger to verify plastic ..................................... and the damn fan made lots of rustling noises and wound upto speed blowing a face full of grit and leaves into my eyes.

Yes, I'd say a mouse had made a home in the fan unit. I didn't even consider it being stuck as it didn't buzz ... the lights didn't dim ... there didn't seem to be any current being drawn.

So that is how you waste a morning.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachmen...t-p1190989.jpg

this is how much I achieve spending a few hours assembling a dash.



seeya,
Shane L.

I feal for you , I bought some new window switches for my BMW e30 that had lights in them ( the old ones didn't & were starting to give trouble now always working) I fitted the new switches & found the lights were on all the time , checked wiring diagram & checkes fuses, relays ect found all working ok. Spent hours on it so refitted old switches . Next day after checking all the circuits again & doing some internet reserch found the problem which wasn't a problem at all . What I found was when you open the doors power is fead to the switches for a couple of minuts so you can open or close the windows, so while I was checking the circuits I had the door open but with the ignition off there is no power going through the fuse or the relay. So is some how getting power from the door light switches but doese not show anything in the wiring diagram so the switches light up for a couple of minuts after the doors have been locked then go out. Would have never have known if I hadn't bought the new switches.

Ah, fans... Something I’ve started to look at in the Jag - it works going full tilt, but not on lower settings so suspect the resistors there too, but I’m yet to discover their location... 😆. Will find them one day. I haven’t asked on the Jag forum as I’m trying to learn about the car as I go and discover what it has in store for me, but the lovely Lucas Electrics in it are just like a Range Rovers. 👍

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Ah, fans... Something I’ve started to look at in the Jag - it works going full tilt, but not on lower settings so suspect the resistors there too, but I’m yet to discover their location... 😆. Will find them one day. I haven’t asked on the Jag forum as I’m trying to learn about the car as I go and discover what it has in store for me, but the lovely Lucas Electrics in it are just like a Range Rovers. 👍

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If it's working on full speed. I bet you have transistor ( infinitely variable ? ) control of the fans. Because you will drop 0.7volts across the transister/fet you have a bypass circuit for full speed (in one of my cars you hear the "click" of the micro-switch for full speed). The transistor/fet is probably fried. The good news is the tend to bury this transistor deep into the dash so a lot of dismantling is required to get to it ( I was doing everything I could to avoid pulling the heater box out of this thing here!... Its about the only thing that was left in the damn car!).

seeya
Shane L

Good luck! At least it’s registered and drove nice well done there!

I still need to find/fix the leak in the A/C before i re-assemble the interior .... But I think I really like this hideous bright blue. The thing looks like a gleaming beacon in a sea of boring plastic mediocrity in carparks. No-one makes bright plain colours like this any longer.

I've only driven it a couple of times (as the interior is still full of wires everywhere). Its amazing the attention it attracts. I've had several people ask me about it already. I could hear someone asking "who owns the Range Rover" in the waiting room when I took one of the kids to the dentist today.

seeya,
Shane L.

Amazing isn't it?

I give my busted arse POS a wash and randoms just come out of the woodwork and ask about it.

Maybe my definition of a 'nice' car is wildly different to others? That I do not honestly know. I still think of it as a POS compared to the Mercs.

Everything about the range rover in oct 1991 is a defining example of "British afterthought engineering" heh BAE lmao how ironic.

There is one sure thing, When you drive an RRC, some weirdo always pops out of nowhere and compliments you on your excellent taste in vehicles.

Not sure I'm all that comfortable with it actually. I guess the compliments are derived from seeing something other than a Land Cruiser, Patrol, hilux or pajero in the carpark.

I mean, a Defender? sure. Brand Cache for an icon, but an RRC??? [bighmmm] My pre-purchase theory was, It's so ugly, that it's cool.

If only I knew what reality lurked under the shell.

Every time I find something wrong in my RRC, it costs me 3x as much to fix it properly, because of the british afterthought engineering. If they'd left it as CSK's original velar, the thing probably would have been alright. But the botched HVAC, the pathetic oil cooler sandwich adapter with useless BSP fittings, the inadequate engine bay cooling / airflow, the 'let's relocate the alternator and add power steering' design debauchery, and the worst electrical design / implementation I have ever come across.

Yet there are still one-eyed faithful out there who will tell you it is the best thing since sliced bread and nothing else even comes close.

I am sure it is those very same people who do not ever work on their vehicles.

I digress.

Shane, let's face it.... if you and I didn't have these abominations in our lives, we'd still be the most miserable old whingeing bastards - but we'd be wealthier ones.
[bigsmile][biggrin][bigsmile]

Hang on, maybe not. You have french cars still and I swapped mine for another 3 pointed swastika. SO that means we're both royally rogered.