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    Excellent find! I think there used to be a grease similar to that for our mower gearbox when I was a kids (it was running when cold, but thick like grease when hot). That could be perfect. I"m guessing the only point of concern is the CV joints. I'll ring penrite tomorrow and see if the grease is suitable for CVs. Bearings will no doubt be fine.

    I could also use it in my slasher and flail mower gearboxes (both of which leak around the seals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    ...................... I'll ring penrite tomorrow and see if the grease is suitable for CVs. Bearings will no doubt be fine.................
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    Which bearings are going to be fine without doubt and why?

    Just trying to help with the orig prob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Which bearings are going to be fine without doubt and why?

    Just trying to help with the orig prob.

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    Well the only things the oil/grease needs to do is work with CVs and lubricate the swivel bearings......... I would have thought any grease or oil would be ok with the swivel bearings given there limited arc and zero rotational speed

    Who wants to bet in 6 weeks time i'll be pulling the damn tings down to replace the seals ..................................... after all the oil/grease leaks away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Which bearings are going to be fine without doubt and why?
    I agree - which bearings?

    In the original setup there would have been an oil seal between the axle housing and the swivel housing to keep the two oils separate. Likewise there would have been a oil seal between the swivel housing and the wheel bearings to prevent the oil from the swivel housing getting into the greased bearings.

    However if you want to change to oiled bearings etc the oil seals can be removed - now if the change has been made to make the wheel bearings oiled rather than greased, changing the swivel housing to one shot grease (CV grease) could mean the wheel bearings are then starved of lubrication.

    Shane needs to understand what arrangement is in place before anything is done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I agree - which bearings?

    In the original setup there would have been an oil seal between the axle housing and the swivel housing to keep the two oils separate. Likewise there would have been a oil seal between the swivel housing and the wheel bearings to prevent the oil from the swivel housing getting into the greased bearings.

    However if you want to change to oiled bearings etc the oil seals can be removed - now if the change has been made to make the wheel bearings oiled rather than greased, changing the swivel housing to one shot grease (CV grease) could mean the wheel bearings are then starved of lubrication.

    Shane needs to understand what arrangement is in place before anything is done.
    The swivel bearings ................ As far as I can tell looking at it, there is no other bearings the oil touches.
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    I use and have always used as suggested by 2 independent LandRover mechanics Moreys engine oil stabiliser. Have done since 1985. My ,current 89 Rangie has it in there. I did my swivels and seals 16 years ago and I have just redone them 2 months ag as they started to leak, not a bad run and over 250000 thousand k later. My 82 Rangie did and is still going 540000k on the original cv and wheel bearings. I had Moreys in that as well, everywhere, engine , gearbox trans case, power steering, I am converted and all my current vehicles run it in some form, even my renault Kangoo has a litre in the engine at every oil change.
    My experience and my thoughts , but it has worked for me over the years I have owned a Rangie....since about....1983....😀😀
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradtot View Post
    I use and have always used as suggested by 2 independent LandRover mechanics Moreys engine oil stabiliser. Have done since 1985. My ,current 89 Rangie has it in there. I did my swivels and seals 16 years ago and I have just redone them 2 months ag as they started to leak, not a bad run and over 250000 thousand k later. My 82 Rangie did and is still going 540000k on the original cv and wheel bearings. I had Moreys in that as well, everywhere, engine , gearbox trans case, power steering, I am converted and all my current vehicles run it in some form, even my renault Kangoo has a litre in the engine at every oil change.
    My experience and my thoughts , but it has worked for me over the years I have owned a Rangie....since about....1983....😀😀
    Interesting .... it doesn't actually say what the oil stabiiliser is. I wonder if its a PTFE additive like the Nulon stuff I've used in gearboxes for years (that really does work).

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    Moreys is pretty ordinary, its just a high molecular weight oil with little if any EP additives.
    It's not something I'd use.
    You are much better off using a GL5/6 diff oil. The point loading of a CV ball is bloody high and diff oils have a decent EP add package.

    Ideally CV's need lubricating solids like moly, but Landy CV's have survived for years on diff oil alone.

    One Shot is a 00 grease with minimal moly, IIRC is only around 2% so not particularly robust either.

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