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    Hi all,

    I'd just like to thank you all for all your help its been great.

    ok I've had a look and yeah it loks to me as if there was a mec. fuel pump there and it has been blanked off just as you said oval shaped blanking plate just under the dizzy.

    now what? have i been chasing the wrong pump?

    should i go for a standard 3.5 pump?

    I also rembember the pump had 1 male and 1 female locating dowls in it if this helps.

    Cheers Shane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneo View Post
    Hi all,

    I'd just like to thank you all for all your help its been great.

    ok I've had a look and yeah it loks to me as if there was a mec. fuel pump there and it has been blanked off just as you said oval shaped blanking plate just under the dizzy.

    now what? have i been chasing the wrong pump?

    should i go for a standard 3.5 pump?

    I also rembember the pump had 1 male and 1 female locating dowls in it if this helps.

    Cheers Shane
    Means that you have the original 4.4 timing cover, if i was you i would get hold of a rover cover with waterpump and flog the 4.4 1 on ebay - youll get your money back on the swap and the rover w/pump is much better.
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    didn't think I could be so lucky

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    Shaneo, what is your location. Some one here will have what you need. If you are in Aus I can help you out a bit. I done heaps of these in the 80 and a few now. A lot give up on 3.5s and are cheap as a donor as they tend to sell complete Oil pump kits (over size)and water pumps are very getable for 3.5 and Z9 ford oil filter fits.
    Tony

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    Hi I live in Picton N.S.W

    just hold on a bit before you case up a conversion I pulled the impella out of the pump today to see if I could get a bearing and seal from CBC or another bearing place and found the impella sharft is worn as well so i thought bugger it and just ordered the repair kit.

    I must say though I got a price from land spares at silverdale and he was over $50 cheaper than everyone else but still a $200 exercise

    thanks for all your help i'll let you know how go.

    Cheers Shane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneo View Post
    Hi I live in Picton N.S.W

    just hold on a bit before you case up a conversion I pulled the impella out of the pump today to see if I could get a bearing and seal from CBC or another bearing place and found the impella sharft is worn as well so i thought bugger it and just ordered the repair kit.

    I must say though I got a price from land spares at silverdale and he was over $50 cheaper than everyone else but still a $200 exercise

    thanks for all your help i'll let you know how go.

    Cheers Shane
    Make shure the Timing cover doesn't have bad corosion damage or you will get a sump full of water. If it has epoxy liquid metal will fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangier Rover View Post
    Make shure the Timing cover doesn't have bad corosion damage or you will get a sump full of water. If it has epoxy liquid metal will fix it.
    Mine was corroded thru but i had it welded which warped the pump mating surface so i had to set it up in the mill and machine it flat again, that was 8 years ago and no probs since .
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    thanks for the tips i'll cheek it out.

    the water pump housing it's self is in surprising good condition but will cheek the timing cover aswell thanks

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    Hi all,

    got the pump back together and running fine after a air lock in the cooling system but all good now thanks a tonne for all you help.

    anyone know what deg. the timing should be running at on these 4.4's ? or roughly where to start

    It is duel fuel

    Cheers Shane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneo View Post
    Hi all,

    got the pump back together and running fine after a air lock in the cooling system but all good now thanks a tonne for all you help.

    anyone know what deg. the timing should be running at on these 4.4's ? or roughly where to start

    It is duel fuel

    Cheers Shane
    10 - 12 BTDC should see it happy, they have a tendency for the timing marks to not correspond correctly ie even when the balancer marks are lined up its still not TDC - pull out no 1 spark plug, line it up and check.
    MY08 TDV6 SE D3- permagrin ooh yeah
    2004 Jayco Freedom tin tent
    1998 Triumph Daytona T595
    1974 VW Kombi bus
    1958 Holden FC special sedan

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