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  1. 13th September 2013, 10:56 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by POD View Post
    If that is correct, then based on a standard weight-for-age (which are generally under-estimations given the increasing size of the population) for a 5 year-old child being 18kg, an anchor capable of supporting 800kg would fail under a crash deceleration of somewhere around 45g. Given that the flimsy-looking bracket will slow the deceleration somewhat by deforming, it would take a massive frontal impact to produce 45g at the bolts. But I still don't like the look of them!
    (nb this is based on the rear anchor point taking the whole of the deceleration load, which it will not do as there is also a seat-belt anchoring the lower part of the child restraint).
    Yield is not breaking point either. Double your 45g and see how the child crash-test-dummy looks after that test.

    As I mentioned before, this isn't the sole restraint for any child seat and it's not just the bracket holding the load. You have to follow any loads right through until you've either deformed enough metal to absorb the impact and reduce the load or resolved it back to the supporting structure.

    Has anyone crashed their RRC using these anchors or otherwise broken them?
    Or are we just making stuff up on the internet again?
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  2. 13th September 2013, 11:45 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Yield is not breaking point either. Double your 45g and see how the child crash-test-dummy looks after that test.

    As I mentioned before, this isn't the sole restraint for any child seat and it's not just the bracket holding the load. You have to follow any loads right through until you've either deformed enough metal to absorb the impact and reduce the load or resolved it back to the supporting structure.

    Has anyone crashed their RRC using these anchors or otherwise broken them?
    Or are we just making stuff up on the internet again?
    They sure do look to crappy for me to be satisfied using, though I'm sure they do meet the safety standards at the time and would be unlikely to fail .... Here's another thought though. If something big runs into the back. The mounting point will be comprised either way (why would you put them at the very back edge of the car .... that'll crush if impacted ? ).

    Would they be better installed on the floor just behind the back seat. That way you have your usable loading space without straps running through it too.

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  3. 13th September 2013, 02:13 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Or are we just making stuff up on the Internet again?
    Clearly we are making stuff up. These mounts are not even real, them pictures are computer animated.
    I don't even have a RRC!

    EDIT: I would also like to make up the fact that all six of the screws holding the three separate restraints on my imaginary RRC were loose when I removed the made up hood lining.
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  4. 13th September 2013, 02:22 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimace View Post
    Clearly we are making stuff up. These mounts are not even real, them pictures are computer animated.
    I don't even have a RRC!
    By definition all images on the internet are computer generated.

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    EDIT: I would also like to make up the fact that all six of the screws holding the three separate restraints on my imaginary RRC were loose when I removed the made up hood lining.
    Sounds about normal for the ratio of loose screws on any landrover product over 10 years.
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  5. 13th September 2013, 02:58 PM #25
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    I got one of these put in, which I reckoned was the easiest and safest design:

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  6. 13th September 2013, 04:16 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post

    Would they be better installed on the floor just behind the back seat. That way you have your usable loading space without straps running through it too.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    That is what I have done with mine. No issues thus far.
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