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  1. 2nd October 2013, 01:49 PM #11
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    If you are going to do a lot of highway touring then the 5 speed LT85 absolutely makes the vehicle. The gearbox withstands normal usage as well as any. Plenty of them around that did upwards of 250,000 k's before overhaul. In 5th, engine speed at 100 k's is 2,000 rpm and 2200 at 110 k's. governed speed is 3,200 so in o/d they are cruising well below max. revs which the engine doesn't have the power to achieve anyway. Mine runs out of puff at 125/2500. Don't use 5th. when heavy towing or under 80 k's.
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  2. 2nd October 2013, 02:11 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    If you are going to do a lot of highway touring then the 5 speed LT85 absolutely makes the vehicle. The gearbox withstands normal usage as well as any. ....
    Brian

    Sorry I can't fully agree with you on this one.

    Yes the LT85 box (made by Santana in Spain) used on the late V8 and Isuzu 110s makes highway driving more flexible, however behind the 4BD1 the 5th gear can give trouble over time. They are also very expensive boxes to repair.

    If I were going to convert a Perentie to 5 speed I would be looking to the Isuzu MSA/LT230 conversion. The Isuzu MSA boxes are designed to go behind the 4BD1, all the Land Rover boxes are compromises.

    You can't do the normal MSA/LT230 conversion to a Perentie 6x6, as you are stuck with the LT95 transfer gears.

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  3. 2nd October 2013, 02:31 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by rb30gtr View Post
    Yep they told me due to being indoors and regulations etc etc.

    For NSW below!

    Viewing for the Auction is on the 12th - 8am to 4pm at Minto

    Next auction sets run from the 10th through to the 16th.

    Prices start for non complete around, 2 grand and you could get a decentish Parentie for around 4 grand.

    They come with blue slips for NSW, super easy to rego!

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    Hahaha a decent Perentie for 4 grand, who have you been talking to? Cheapest with a blue slip has been $5809+GST+buyers premium, and it wasn't a good example, bits missing here and there. Grays are doing their best to maximise profits so are endeavouring to not sell non-operational Landies.

    Actually all auctions start at $9...
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  4. 8th October 2013, 05:09 PM #14
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    Prices start for non complete around, 2 grand and you could get a decentish Parentie for around 4 grand
    I will be very surprised if they go this low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellard View Post
    I will be very surprised if they go this low.

    Wayne
    I think we'd all buy a couple just on spec if they were this low

    I've noticed some of the asking prices for resales of ex-mil 110s from previous auctions match some of the on-line asking prices for Series LRs... where will it end?


    (obviously on-line asking prices really have no bearing on what a vehicle eventually changes hands for)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post

    ...........

    Yes the LT85 box (made by Santana in Spain) used on the late V8 and Isuzu 110s makes highway driving more flexible, however behind the 4BD1 the 5th gear can give trouble over time. They are also very expensive boxes to repair.

    ..........
    Interesting that you write that Diana (and I've been told this many many times by other LR experts). As the (hopefully) careful owner of a couple of functioning LT85s I'm naturally quite interested in the subject.

    Ashcrofts quote £550 for a reco box .... this isn't all that much more expensive than their R380 reco price

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    Core value & freight costs need to be considered but I am still left wondering if there is any real substance to the LT85 rebuild cost tale. I guess I'll only find out if I have to eventually buy one.

    Mind you, I'm not swapping the LT95 in the Perentie for one - it performs very well on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    Interesting that you write that Diana (and I've been told this many many times by other LR experts). As the (hopefully) careful owner of a couple of functioning LT85s I'm naturally quite interested in the subject.

    Ashcrofts quote £550 for a reco box .... this isn't all that much more expensive than their R380 reco price

    Ashcroft Transmissions

    Core value & freight costs need to be considered but I am still left wondering if there is any real substance to the LT85 rebuild cost tale. I guess I'll only find out if I have to eventually buy one.

    Mind you, I'm not swapping the LT95 in the Perentie for one - it performs very well on the road.
    You only have to do a search in the Isuzu Landy Section to see the dissatisfaction about the LT85 behind the 4BD1, they're O.K. behind the 3.5 V8 but not long lasting when used in 5th constantly behind the isuzu.

    $1,000 + $400 charge for the lack of an exchange before a box is shipped to Australia I would say IS Expensive. They are often more expensive to get repaired here by less experienced workshops.

    My argument is why would you spend better than $2K on an LT85 when you can spend about the same money to get a gearbox that is designed to go behind the 4BD1-T?

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.
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