Thread: Towing Capacity

You already have a LR to drive one of these vehicles. Probably most that do already have a HR.
Any trailer over 2t and up to 4.5t ATM, as far as I am aware, must have electric brakes with a break away system. The towing vehicle must have a brake controller installed (although I have seen trailers with the brake controller installed on the trailer).

This may be of interest:
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...FF/0/VSI24.pdf

The way I see it, all that has to be done is the rear cross member and chassis has to be assessed to conform to these standards (or whatever standards are current) and an electric brake controller installed. Is there anything I am overlooking?

Who mentioned A frame towing?
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...rametowing.pdf

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

You already have a LR to drive one of these vehicles. Probably most that do already have a HR.
Any trailer over 2t and up to 4.5t ATM, as far as I am aware, must have electric brakes with a break away system. The towing vehicle must have a brake controller installed (although I have seen trailers with the brake controller installed on the trailer).

This may be of interest:
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...FF/0/VSI24.pdf

The way I see it, all that has to be done is the rear cross member and chassis has to be assessed to conform to these standards (or whatever standards are current) and an electric brake controller installed. Is there anything I am overlooking?

Who mentioned A frame towing?
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...rametowing.pdf

almost correct.

over 2T you must have some kind of command brake system, it can be vac, pnuematic, hydraulic or electric, electric is easiest AND whichever system you fit must be able to automatically brake and hold the trailer in the event of a break away for a period of 15 minutes (from memory) until a secondary braking mechanism or method of securing the trailer can be effected.


and yes, if you were lucky the minimum requirement is an inspection of the cross member, hook up mounts and safety chain mounts for suitability to handle the load you want to put on it legally, an Engineer would do this and then if all was good put his moniker on a bit of expensive paper and attach an equally expensive bit of ally plate along side the ADR compliance plate up on the fire wall.

What doesnt exist is a bit of paper that says yes you can already tow 3.5T (which is most likely where most engineers would draw the line in the sand when you go to get one replated for a higher towed load)

There are (were) some very heavy restrictions on A framing one landrover with another but for a while It was an ADF approved method of short range moving a broken down landrover

From memory

must have operable brakes on the crock (not the park brake)
must have operable steering
must have a driver to control the steering and brakes
Towing must not be likely to cause futher damage
Neutral must be selectable on the Tcase
CDL must be disengaged
maximum distance was <50km
maximum speed was less than 40KPH
Towed vehicle was to weigh less than the towing vehicle
some form of communication between the two vehicles was required (hand signals were acceptable

I may or may have not seen Army 110s being used to tow L5 Pack Howitzers (1.6 ton) and L119 Light Guns (1.9 ton) and assumed it was legit for short distances, but maybe I was wrong and said driver or drivers could have been in very deep poo.

Jeff

This should all be pretty simple. There must be an engineer out there willing to certify the perentie 4x4 - which has a chassis as strong or stronger than the one-ten and is otherwise identical where it counts - can tow the same load as a civvy one-ten.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

This should all be pretty simple. There must be an engineer out there willing to certify the perentie 4x4 - which has a chassis as strong or stronger than the one-ten and is otherwise identical where it counts - can tow the same load as a civvy one-ten.

I sure there is, it just doesn't look like anybody has gone down that path yet. Land Rover owners are tight (I am) if they can get a workable solution without spending money, they will. Doesn't look like there is an 'out' on this one without going down the Engineering path.

Originally Posted by bacicat

I sure there is, it just doesn't look like anybody has gone down that path yet. Land Rover owners are tight (I am) if they can get a workable solution without spending money, they will. Doesn't look like there is an 'out' on this one without going down the Engineering path.

Towing Capacity

Originally Posted by bacicat

I sure there is, it just doesn't look like anybody has gone down that path yet. Land Rover owners are tight (I am) if they can get a workable solution without spending money, they will. Doesn't look like there is an 'out' on this one without going down the Engineering path.

In reality I think people are worrying over nothing. If you have an accident while towing, the odds of the insurance co and or the cops pulling the specific perentie docs as opposed to the one-ten or defender docs is next to zero...

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Towing Capacity

Missed that - I'll dig up his name and number - it's been a while since I chatted to him.