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Thread: 6X6 Rear suspension travel and how to improve it.

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    6X6 Rear suspension travel and how to improve it.

    This is a topic to discuss the pro's and con's of 6x6 suspension travel and how to remedy there inability. In other threads there have been discussions on why there is such little travel.

    Hopefully with the collective brains trust we can come up with a solution.

    Some suggestions have been,
    Camelback suspension like on the old Macs, or Modifying the rocker beam.

    What ideas do you have?


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    • 1990 Perentie 6x6 Air Defence GS
    •2013 Range Rover Sport

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    New airbag design

    Maybe something like this? ( bit technical tho)
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    Camel Back arrangement

    Camel back ?
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    I like the camel back arrangement. I think that is what Bill had on his 2a.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZuJHchxpvQ[/ame]
    Or, maybe not. Does anyone know what Bill did to built his 6x6?
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    The Camelback (or something along those lines) with torque rods is what the Studebaker 6x6 has and it performs superbly. However, the Studie has much longer driveshafts and the wheelbase between rear axles to allow clearance at full travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I like the camel back arrangement. I think that is what Bill had on his 2a.
    Bill Van Snorkle's 6x6 Land Rover Series - YouTube
    Or, maybe not. Does anyone know what Bill did to built his 6x6?
    Bill talked about his 6x6 in this thread, which is otherwise a little ridiculous but worth reading for Bill's input. I believe his 2a had a walking beam setup, which I think is the same as a camelback (I haven't heard that name before).

    Anyway, that thread covers what is necessary to make a capable 6x6; Bill even mentions the 6x6 Perenties at one point.

    Changing anything structural to gain articulation would be the beginning of a slippery slope, and probably have you wishing you just bought a Mog. The simplest fix is probably to somehow space the axles out so that you could fit 35s or 9.00r16s. That would get you the approach, departure and ramp over angles required for a capable offroad vehicle of that size (HUGE). Then fit lockers.

    It won't have much in the way of articulation, but it will still go just about everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish View Post
    ...I believe his 2a had a walking beam setup, which I think is the same as a camelback (I haven't heard that name before).

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    A camelback is a centrally mounted pivoting leaf spring. A walking beam is a pivoting beam connecting the axles (which may be sprung) - but not necessarily by a leaf spring(s). There are air spring walking beam setups in many trucks. I suppose a camelback would still be considered one type of walking beam suspension.

    A variation on this setup would be good! The main beam could bolt into the front spring hanger
    http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/geta...axsidesize=406

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    Has anyone thought about Simplicity Suspension, an independent leaf spring (camel back type) suspension that is already tried and tested. Comes in ratings from 2000kg to 4500kg and had ADR approval for caravans anyway. At least it's off the shelf and doesn't have to be invented though adaptation to a 6x6 might take a bit of doing.

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    These pics show some of the suspension arrangement of a 6x6 G-wagen in the UK.

    I have a gut feeling it was a conversion carried out in the UK, but they do have a factory look.






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    Thanks for that. Looks similar to the ikea 6x6 being built. Coil sprung rear end. I found another suspension set up on a cruiser, similar to a camel back, but can't upload it. I like the idea of coil sprung rear end. Should give more independence between axles.


    Just catching the perentie bug.

    1990 Perentie 6x6 Air Defence GS ARM 51867
    2013 Range Rover Sport
    1996 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top ARN 202238

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