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    Fuel system bleeding tips

    Hi All,
    As a diesel newbie I've replaced the spin-on fuel filter and bled air out of the system as per the One Ten Owners Manual direction once before just after purchasing my Perentie.
    This time around I was planning to dismantle and clean the sedimenter as well as replacing the filter again.
    When I replaced the fuel filter I filled it with diesel prior to installing into the housing to reduce the amount of fuel that had to be pumped up into the upper section of the fuel system in the bleeding process.
    I was assuming that the bottom half of the sedimenter should ideally be simmilarly filled with diesel when re-installing it into the upper body of the sedimenter?
    Presumably then when both sedimenter and filter are installed filled, operating the primer pump (a new Bosch one) will to displace any air in the sedimenter and filter housings out to the bleeding points (from memory the top banjo of the filter housing and at the injector pump). Am I on the right track?
    Any advice greatly appreciated.

    Cheers, Dave

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    sedimenter is on the suction side of the priming pump. and fuel filter after. often there are filters in lift pump inlet. the pressure control [relief] valve on the IP return often wont let air return to the tank. if it passes air it wont require bleed screws to be open.


    All air in the sedimenter and suction hose must be pumped through the priming pump and fuel filter. you need some fuel in the priming pump to get the valves to seal so leave the fuel filter off or loose till fuel has been pumped up to it or use air pressure TO TEST FOR LEAKS..


    sedimenter fitted on a Perentie is connected reverse to civilian vehicles and the direction arrows on the housing. in through the center and out on the outside. there should will be very little air in the housing.it can be replaced with a fuel filter housing if required.

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    It should be self bleeding, well mine is. I don't bother loosening injector return lines.

    I wipe the seals for the spinon filter and sedimenter with vaso to help them bed in. I think the sedimenter is a great bit of kit. It picks up larger particles and saves the spin on.

    I have an inline 20 micron filter before the lift pump to prevent blockages.
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    What type of 20 micron filter did you use?
    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    It should be self bleeding, well mine is. I don't bother loosening injector return lines.

    I wipe the seals for the spinon filter and sedimenter with vaso to help them bed in. I think the sedimenter is a great bit of kit. It picks up larger particles and saves the spin on.

    I have an inline 20 micron filter before the lift pump to prevent blockages.

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    . I don't bother loosening injector return lines.

    Neither do I.
    fill both the sedimenter and filter with diesel, crack open the bleed screw on top of the filter housing, pump it a few times till air stops bubbling out, tighten up screw, clean up the mess and done.

    IIRC the primer pump is replacable? anyone done that? Mine leaks like a sieve when priming, which is annoying and makes a mess.
    If it's relatively easy, I may replace it to save the once a year clean of the diff/axle.

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    Do yourself a favour and get one of those generic bosch ones on ebay for around $20 -works a treat and no more mess!
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris078 View Post
    . I don't bother loosening injector return lines.

    Neither do I.
    fill both the sedimenter and filter with diesel, crack open the bleed screw on top of the filter housing, pump it a few times till air stops bubbling out, tighten up screw, clean up the mess and done.

    IIRC the primer pump is replacable? anyone done that? Mine leaks like a sieve when priming, which is annoying and makes a mess.
    If it's relatively easy, I may replace it to save the once a year clean of the diff/axle.

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    assuming there are no leaks or blockages, that replacing the filter or fixing those leaks is why you have to bleed the thing in the first place.

    heres how I do it when Im in a "gotta get it going fast and screw the book" bleed method.

    Crack the bleed line on the top of the filter
    crack the bleed screw on the injector pump
    Crack the #1 injector line on the injector

    pump like buggery on the manual pump till the fuel turns up at the fuel filter, close that while you keep pumping slowly

    pump until fuel comes out the bleed screw on the injector pump, close that secure the manual pump.

    hold it flat crank it till you see the #1 injector spitting, if it starts let it idle if it will, if it stalls dont panic. Close #1 injector union.

    If it was Idling it will now keep running and should smooth out, if it doesnt hold it at 1000-1500 rpm till it does. If it stalled, hold it pinned and crank it till it starts then try to hold 1000-1500 rpm. Once thats happened slowly back the idle down to normal idle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattmac View Post
    Do yourself a favour and get one of those generic bosch ones on ebay for around $20 -works a treat and no more mess!

    got a link? Is it a pump that goes into the fuel pump, or a separate thing?

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    The quick dirty change filter only bleed method.

    if you're only trying to bleed it up after changing the filter and you havent prefilled the filter (which is the correct thing to do let no one tell you other wise)
    Fill the tank, make sure the battery is charged, if you've got a jump pack or a slaving vehicle hook that up too
    Pull the jesus fuse from the fuel cut wind motor
    crank the engine on the starter till the oil light goes out. crank for 5 more seconds
    put the jesus fuse back
    set full fuel (step on the loud pedal hold it on the floor)
    start it.
    hold it pinned it'll die down, if you got it right it'll pick up again hold 1500 RPM till it runs smoothly
    IF it stalls... hold it pinned, crank it till it burns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris078 View Post
    got a link? Is it a pump that goes into the fuel pump, or a separate thing?
    just about any 12V facet style pump will do the job. make a recirc hose for the existing priming pump and just plumb the 12v Facet pump in place. wire it off of the feed for the fuel cut wind motor

    Electric Fuel Pump 12 Volt Solid State 4 TO 6PSI 130 LPH Petrol Facet Universal | eBay

    thats the one you want. the existing lift pump will pull through it for normal engine running so you can plumb one in place in front of the lift pump and just use it to prime as required.
    Dave

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