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    Tow bar fitting

    Quote Originally Posted by BadCo. View Post
    **** no, its full of holes!

    I'm guessing you've never had a good look at a Defender rear crossmember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadCo. View Post
    That 900kg max is for the stock crossmember/pintle combination isn't it? Not for any other type of hitch receiver that you get fabbed up.
    It's because of the rated GVM and GCM of the Perentie.
    Not a lot to do with the hitch or crossmember although they would have been included in the engineering calcs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themadmob View Post
    I am assuming so .. the 900kg is unbraked .. the X member is way way stronger thsn the standard Defender X member ?
    Makimim unbreaked GTM is 750kg. 900kg would require a braking system on the trailer. Refer VSB1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadCo. View Post
    Please don't start this argument again
    Unfortunately there are opinions and rules.
    Rules can be confirmed. Opinions are taken at your own (and possibly others) risk.
    I know a fellow who gets into all sorts of costly situations because his actions are guided by opinion rather than rules.

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    And the internet is full of opinion and short on fact.

    Like a 900kg maxmium tow rating! VEH G 100 (or what ever the correct aconyn is) states 1200kg. But then is that a user document deleveloped by the army/ defence forces?

    Mick, what is the GCM of a 4 x 4 perentie? And where is this stated by the manufacturer?

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by rathgar View Post
    And the internet is full of opinion and short on fact.

    Like a 900kg maxmium tow rating! VEH G 100 (or what ever the correct aconyn is) states 1200kg. But then is that a user document deleveloped by the army/ defence forces?

    Mick, what is the GCM of a 4 x 4 perentie? And where is this stated by the manufacturer?

    Ian
    Don't know for the 4x4 but the GCM is about 7.1t or 7.2t for the 6x6 with a GVM of 5.6t. My TARE was 3.98t.

    I'll have a look at the info I have at home

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    I've always been told you go off what is on your rego papers. In NSW, my two 4x4s were GVM: 3050/GCM: blank and GVM: 3200/GCM: 6700 (and no, it's not an RFSV). Now in QLD, the first is GVM: 3800 (!)/GCM: blank. Still waiting for the second rego to come through. It's a bit of a bureaucratic lucky dip.

    Could someone whose Perentie is actually registered as a "Military 4x4" post what their rego paper states the GVM/GCM are? I suspect LRA never made/submitted a vehicle spec sheet for the Perentie 4x4, so in the eyes of the law we're all just driving 110s - GCM and all. Happy to be proven wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    Don't know for the 4x4 but the GCM is about 7.1t or 7.2t for the 6x6 with a GVM of 5.6t. My TARE was 3.98t.

    I'll have a look at the info I have at home
    I just checked "7610-66-128-4353 technical manual user handbook truck, utility, lightweight, MC2"
    It states
    When loaded, it is rated to tow a gross trailer mass of 0.8 tonnes.
    realistically, 0.8t, 900kg, 1200kg, is a far cry from the 3 tonnes people expect to tow with it.
    "It's a Defender!" I hear them say.
    No, It's not. There are significant chassis differences that affect the towing capacity. It may be able to toe 3t but I would recommend to get it engineered first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish View Post

    Could someone whose Perentie is actually registered as a "Military 4x4" post what their rego paper states the GVM/GCM are?
    On my 6x6 with NSW rego, it says the following:
    Make: LROVER
    Model: MILITRY
    Variant: (blank)
    Tare Weight: 4000
    GVM: 5600
    GCM: (blank)

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    ... There are significant chassis differences that affect the towing capacity. It may be able to toe 3t but I would recommend to get it engineered first.
    Yes but those differences don't reduce the GVM infact its it is the highest (or equal) of any similair period 110 that can tow between 3850 and 4000kg

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