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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris078 View Post
    Pumping the pedal doesn't do anything, just stays soft.
    In that case it's unlikely to be a leading/trailing shoe issue; sounds hydraulic - something leaking or not bled properly. Could be other things too. When it goes back for the drums tell them the pedal is soft and they'll fix it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris078 View Post
    How can you tell the difference between the shoes?
    The pad material is offset differently as usual for leading/trailing shoes and also the adjuster pins - the bits on which the adjuster snail gears run - are in slightly different positions.

    When I went looking for pictures I found this helpful site. It refers to 109" Land Rovers but the Perentie/110 rear brakes are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervish View Post
    In that case it's unlikely to be a leading/trailing shoe issue; sounds hydraulic - something leaking or not bled properly. Could be other things too. When it goes back for the drums tell them the pedal is soft and they'll fix it.



    The pad material is offset differently as usual for leading/trailing shoes and also the adjuster pins - the bits on which the adjuster snail gears run - are in slightly different positions.

    When I went looking for pictures I found this helpful site. It refers to 109" Land Rovers but the Perentie/110 rear brakes are the same.

    That is a most useful page. I might take it apart in a couple of weeks when my back has healed and I'll have a look.

    Interestingly, my Perentie had an incorrect top spring fitted. had the coil in the centre underneath the cylinder. luckily I had ordered new springs so was able to replace it with the correct spring. No idea where the odd spring came from - it fitted correctly, just scraped on the underside of the cylinder.
    One day I will get the brakes sorted on this car. I've spent thousands replacing pretty much every component and frustratingly it is still not right.
    oh well, what's another 2k after all.
    Home Brand 2 minutes noodles for Christmas for me!

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    From memory the rear brakes are the same as all landies before them,the rear shoes are both sided,and have a front and rear shoe, remove the drum,and check if the shoe pins are aligned with the adjustment cams/snails if not take the vehicle to a mechanic or workshop with Landrover experience before you have an accident,particularly at this time of year.

    cheers

    Have a happy and safe Xmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHo View Post
    From memory the rear brakes are the same as all landies before them,the rear shoes are both sided,and have a front and rear shoe, remove the drum,and check if the shoe pins are aligned with the adjustment cams/snails if not take the vehicle to a mechanic or workshop with Landrover experience before you have an accident,particularly at this time of year.

    cheers

    Have a happy and safe Xmas.

    Won't be being driven until after New year now. Just got a giant thing chopped out of my back and now have 20 stitches in its place.
    Very experienced Land rover mechanic did the job. As I said, everyone can make a mistake once in a while. Either I'll pull them off and have a look, or I'll double check when I take it in to get the drums replaced.

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    If your drums are suspect then it would be worth checking them for size,11inch plus a max of 1/8 inch for standard shoes (28cm+4mm) from memory,before you need to go to oversize shoes,if they were used for heavy braking (got hot)and the foot kept on the pedal they would become oval,which could be detected by a pulsating pedal,hope that is of help to you.


    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHo View Post
    If your drums are suspect then it would be worth checking them for size,11inch plus a max of 1/8 inch for standard shoes (28cm+4mm) from memory,before you need to go to oversize shoes,if they were used for heavy braking (got hot)and the foot kept on the pedal they would become oval,which could be detected by a pulsating pedal,hope that is of help to you.


    cheers
    The drums are out of spec. Sent them off to get machined when the new pads were fitted and they sent them back saying they were 50 thou over and therefore they won't machine them.

    They aren't ovalled (no pulsating when braking) but they do have a descernable ridge worn in them.

    I have new drums here that I'm going to put on (or have fitted I have not decided If I'm brave enough to do anything involving the brakes yet) when I'm allowed to drive again.

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