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Thread: Does a UHF antenna base need to be earthed?

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    Does a UHF antenna base need to be earthed?

    I think the place where I have mounted my UHF antenna may not have a good connection back to the vehicle's earth.

    Does it matter if the antenna base is not earthed?
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    If you are using a ground independent antenna its not a problem but if not then you need a good earth

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    How do I know if I have a ground independent antenna. They just long black rods to me.
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    Google ground independent antenna - select images. You'll be able to figure out what you've got.

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    grounds for concern

    For instance, when fitting a antenna onto a fibreglass structure ( like a boat ) with a antenna base that requires it to be grounded to work, a ground can be made by using counterpoise wires.





    These wires are generally tuned to the highest frequency of the transmitter, using a device called a dip meter.



    A ground independent antenna has the function that a counterpoise offers already built into it.

    UHF ground independent antenna picture - Google Search
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    A ground plane independent antenna still needs its base earthed properly .
    but Dosent require a bonnet or roof to act as a ground reference plane for the RF signal .

    I was having range issues with my AM CB (ground plane independant) and UHF PRS ( ground plane dependent ) due to the poor electrical conductivity of the Aluminium body panels .
    I ran an separate earth from the battery and earthed both the head units and antennas to it , which resulted in a massive increase in range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferret View Post
    How do I know if I have a ground independent antenna. They just long black rods to me.
    If it still has the shrink wrap/sticker around the bottom see if gives you a model number or it may say if it is ground independent

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    Quote Originally Posted by UBZ View Post
    I ran an separate earth from the battery and earthed both the head units and antennas to it , which resulted in a massive increase in range.
    Ideally the earth for radio equipment where the antenna is also grounded should be appropriately fused so that if the vehicle's main earth fails, the radio equipment doesn't try provide the earth path which could result in a fire.
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    The main reason to earth the antenna end of the outer shield of the coax antenna cable is to reduce RF interference.

    If the antenna is on a bullbar and the antenna cable passes through the engine compartment , then for sure both ends of the shield must be earthed .

    If however the antenna is on the roof or gutter and there are no RF interference sources close by the route of the cable, then the earth to the radio, which then should have a good earth may suffice. The outer shield of the antenna cable has to earthed to the base of the antenna.

    My gutter mounted ground plane dependent antenna does not have an earth and works fine with good range and no RF noise to speak of.I just didn't want to break the paint layer again.
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    Last edited by PhilipA; 9th September 2012 at 10:33 AM. Reason: more info

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    Earth loops

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    The main reason to earth the antenna end of the outer shield of the coax antenna cable is to reduce RF interference.
    It not noticeable at UHF, but at HF and at an lesser degree at VHF, earthing both ends of the coax can cause trouble from radio frequency interference due to the earth loop.

    An except from this link.

    Ref; Ground Problems

    Solid state equipment is especially sensitive to ground problems. Each piece of equipment in figure 1 is interconnected by two ground paths, a ground strap and the coaxial cable that interconnects the equipment. The two paths form a ground loop, as shown in figure 1. Since there is high system gain involved from the millivolts of the transceiver's input circuits to the kilovolts of the linear's output circuit, ground loops can be a serious problem. It's even worse if the ground system is ineffective and the entire station is 'floating' above ground. Breaking the ground loops can lead to the solution to long unsolved RFI problems.
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