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    Can someone explain 3G phone frequencies/bands to me?

    Hello,

    I am buying a cheap entry level 2nd mobile for very occasional use and have settled on one that is 3G and:

    Operating Frequencies
    GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900 / UMTS 900 / 2100 MHz


    The seller assures me it will work in Australia.

    However when I look at a cheap prepaid SIM deals they all require 850Mhz compatible phone.

    Then I read elsewhere that Australia does not use GSM850....

    I've been over on Whirlpool trying to get a straight answer but those guys are doing my head in.

    Wiki says no GSM850 used in Aus.

    I am obviously confusing something

    Is there anyone here that can explain it to me in simpler terms?

    Paul

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    I know that Telstra Next G is 850/2100MHz while Optus 3/4g is 900/1800/2100MHz

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    Looks like I may have to go with Optus then.

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    Just by way of explanation I bought this tiny little 3G phone for when I go running.

    Modu T Cell Mobile Smart Phone Touchscreen 3G GSM Unlocked Camerafy Sportify | eBay

    It only weighs 62 grams (about a third of an iphone weight - supposedly the lightest 3G phone in the world!).

    It is really just for emergencies, so weight was the prime reason for getting it.

    The seller assures me it will work in Aus.......so we'll see.

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    Try these links:

    2G, 3G, Next-G, 4G - What's the difference?
    http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/mobile_phone_frequencies

    Not only are there multiple frequencies but some frequencies are specific to a carrier, and others are shared. What a cluster...

    The trouble is you do not actually know where a specific frequency is in use in a specific area (except for Telstra NextG - country).

    So unless you were going for Optus and staying with Optus for the life of the phone, I would get a phone with 850

    As an aside: I find the talk time and standby time figures on the phone you are looking at pretty hard to believe given the size of the battery, but it is feature packed given the size (or lack of it).

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    Vodaphone 850MHz rollout

    During 2012 Vodaphone rolled out an 850MHZ network in an attempt to win back customers:

    850MHz network ready devices - Vodafone Australia

    Reasonable explanation of frequencies here:

    http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/mobile_phone_frequencies

    Aldi have a new phone service on "part of the Telstra network" whatever that means - obviously not the Telstra 4G network though.

    Bob

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    Thanks for that link featherweight

    Yes I have read a few articles that suggest it will be less than advertised. It's a very small battery

    I only need it to last long enough for me to go for a run ( 4 or 5 hours max) and will only get urgent use calls.

    I tried running with an iPhone but they get bloody heavy after an hour or so.

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    Thanks bob yes aldi only use "selected areas of 3G ". Not LTE. That was the deal I liked because they give you 1 year to use their credit.

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    Great article FW. Thanks. So basically I have bought a phone that will only work on 3G ... Which is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepy View Post

    Operating Frequencies
    GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900 / UMTS 900 / 2100 MHz
    This means that it will work on 2G 900MHz 1800 MHz and 1900MHz networks. These are the old digital networks that are fairly irrelevant now but still in operation. Well I am not sure which frequencies are still in use but that is what they were.

    The UMTS frequencies are the 3G networks that you are interested in. 900MHz and 2100MHz are Optus. Telstra dropped 2100MHz and use 850MHz. Vodaphone uses 2100/850MHz I think.

    I don't know about weight but Coles have some pretty good deals for sub $50 Android phones occasionally on Telstra.
    I bought the LG one they had a while ago. A great phone for $50.

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