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  1. 18th September 2013, 01:47 PM #1
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    What kind of plugs/connectors can I solder? Low current, auto wire. (Spade?)

    TLDR: Where can I get a solder spade connector with insulation?

    Longer version:
    Short of replacing wiring looms, I am always needing to move, extend or install new wiring. The standard small auto wire (18 AWG?) that would be used to control relays, power a single bulb etc.

    Spade connectors seem perfect, but when I go to somewhere like Jaycar, the only solder appropriate ones don't have any insulation. I can heat shrink, but it all seems a bit messy. The rest are crimp and can't solder because the insulation is in the way.

    I want something like a spade plug/connector (male+female) that I can solder, then have the insulation slide over the top or clip together to make a simple insulated join.

    It seems obvious this type of thing exists, but I seem incapable of finding it. A little help?
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    Something like this
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    My first thought is why would you not want a standard insulated crimp?

    I have never seen an insulated solder crimp I don't think. If you want to cover a soldered crimp and don't like heat shrink then get some appropriately sized spaghetti insulation. Although since it is looks you are after you won't like that either.
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    I would ask, why are you soldering instead of crimping? A properly done crimp is far better than solder.
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    I'm sure you'll tell me I don't have the right tool and happy to be educated, but I've never found a crimp connection all that satisfactory. Never feels as though contact point is decent and secure.

    I've always found solder to be excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judo View Post
    I'm sure you'll tell me I don't have the right tool and happy to be educated, .
    You don't have the right tool. You need a quality ratchet crimper.

    Something like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utemad View Post
    You don't have the right tool. You need a quality ratchet crimper.

    Something like this.
    Cabac PRE Insulated Ratchet Terminal LUG Crimper RED Blue Yellow Terminals | eBay
    I've got one of those. I'm never happy with the result though.
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    In that case if you are using the correct size crimp for the wire then I think your expectations are too high or you are worrying about nothing.

    After all there are probably no factory soldered crimps in your OEM wiring harness. They will all be crimped using various methods.
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    or you're using the wrong set of crimps and crimpers'

    insulated crimpers (red for small blue med and yellow large) do not go down small enough for automotive "signal" wires.

    you either need to pad by stripping more wire and then folding it over or using some additional wire that you then cut off to fill the crimp OR you need to use the non insulated crimps with the correct crimping tool and then heat shrinking the crimp and connector as appropriate.

    The sets of crimps and crimpers are not interchangable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utemad View Post
    your expectations are too high or you are worrying about nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    you either need to pad by stripping more wire and then folding it over or using some additional wire that you then cut off to fill the crimp OR you need to use the non insulated crimps with the correct crimping tool and then heat shrinking the crimp and connector as appropriate.
    Perhaps I'm just asking too much then. I will go back to repeatedly folding wires over to make them the correct fit. Seems like a band-aid fix to me, but if it's what everyone does and it works, I will attempt to stop worrying and accept.

    Back to business as usual.
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