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Thread: What kind of plugs/connectors can I solder? Low current, auto wire. (Spade?)

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    I usually crimp and solder, you can either pull the plastic insulator off with pliers (comes off very easily) or leave it on there - the heat from soldering usually makes it reform into a round shape. I usually use heat shrink as it super neat.

    I don't have an expensive ratchet crimper, I also often use the non insulated end and align it well then solder, doesn't mash the crimp flat like the ratchet crimpers do.

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    It just occurred to me that I have seen a solder crimp cover of sorts.

    You can get the non insulated crimps with clear plastic covers. So you could crimp them on (or not) and then apply solder. Then slip the cover over.

    I only solder connectors on when I am using a crimp connector that is too large or small for the cable and folding the wire over still doesn't make it big enough. More of a get out of jail thing than an every day thing.

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    I worked for a company building road maintenance trucks for a few years. They would not let us just crimp wires, unless it was for a specific connector. such as deustch plugs.

    Most OEM harnesses are crimped because its cheaper and faster for a machine to crimp the joints.

    Our auto electrician would always solder every connection he could reach. his reasoning was that as good as crimps can be they can over time work loose with vibration,

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    till the acid in the flux eats away the copper and then the slightest bit of vibration causes a break.
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    I can tell you that aircraft don't have soldered connections. All connections are done mechanically.
    Crimps crimp the wire and the insulation this gives the connection strain relief.
    Soldered joints have no strain relief and also suffer from wicking which is where the solder wicks up the wire and under the insulation. Of course you can use anti wicking tweezers however I doubt that most people have seen or heard of these before.
    Any flex at the soldered joint will result in the wire eventually breaking.

    A correctly crimped connection will fuse the wire and the crimp due to the force involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Now we're talking. That type of fold over crimp appeals to me a bit more too. With the option of soldering as well, I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    I can tell you that aircraft don't have soldered connections. All connections are done mechanically.
    Crimps crimp the wire and the insulation this gives the connection strain relief.
    Soldered joints have no strain relief and also suffer from wicking which is where the solder wicks up the wire and under the insulation. Of course you can use anti wicking tweezers however I doubt that most people have seen or heard of these before.
    Any flex at the soldered joint will result in the wire eventually breaking.

    A correctly crimped connection will fuse the wire and the crimp due to the force involved.
    I agree with your points and they are certainly some negatives to soldering. Like most things there are always pros and cons to consider. I would be interested to know what type of gear they use though - I doubt Boeing and AirBus have the same crimper I have.

    To me it comes back to viable DIY options of crimp vs solder. The quality of my DIY crimps thus far have been poor and I consider my solder connections to be much better.

    As always, discussion is uncovering some good options for both though.
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    I have tried soldering spade connectors before but found the crimped ones more that enough for the task and a huge step up from the old twist and tape method i used as a kid fitting stereo's in friends cars .
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    I have tried soldering spade connectors before but found the crimped ones more that enough for the task and a huge step up from the old twist and tape method i used as a kid fitting stereo's in friends cars .
    I have found some wiring like this in my 110 - thus starting this thread and looking for new solutions...

    That makes me think... Electrical tape has a somewhat deceiving name really - if you're using electrical tape to fix an electrical problem, you're doing it wrong.
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