Sounds like you have a high resistance join where the feed is taken from the first light wiring to the second light.
hi folks,
I have an issue with my spotlights: I have two wired to a relay, powered from the battery and bolted to the front bumper. the one closest to the relay works fine but the wire going from that to the next light only has 4 volts. can anyone think why this would be? do i need to split the wire in a different place?
currently i have the 12v feed wire from the relay going into a piggyback connector with one wire going to the 2nd lamp (furthest from the relay) and the other wire going to the first, both being earthed to the bumper. both wires connect straight to the bulb inside the lamp, there were wires coming out of the lamps but they were too short so i just put the feed wire straight inside. it's quite thick gauge wire.
if anyone has any idea of how to get the second lamp a 12v feed, any help would be much appreciated
Sounds like you have a high resistance join where the feed is taken from the first light wiring to the second light.
ok, thanks for the tip! do you know how I might fix the issue? would running a thinner wire to both lamps do the trick do you think?
as in, joining two, thinner wires to the thick 12v feed wire from the relay? i've had a look at lots of different wiring diagrams but none seemed to make it very clear on what sort of wire to use
Bi H, don't go with thinner wire as resistance increases .Thicker wire is better. Can you test the output at the relay? That might tell you something and lead you to the problem. Cheers, 130man.
Piggy back connectors are an invention of the devil, there should be a fatwa against them! Find the correct size crimp connector you can put both wires in at the same time, or get a relay with two output terminals (both marked "87"). Thickish wires, crimped with a proper ratchet crimper (not one of those el cheapo flat tin things) or solder all the terminals to the cables. Also make sure your earth connections are clean and tight.
I cringe at the thought of crimps, they are crap, take your crimp connectors and fill them with solder, while i have a set of ratchet crimps for emergency use in the bush I would never leave something in my car fitted with crimps permanently, you will have less voltage drop and less resistance in a connector if its soldered.
I would also advice against earthing to the bumper, Ive always run an earth back to the battery in my cars, it doesn't take much more effort and it well worth it.
always use the thickest wire possible to reduce voltage drop due to resistance.
splitting the wire like a 'Y' is also a better option than attempting to piggy back them.
Leroy
Seeing as I almost daily use crimp terminals in my work, and I have to stand by my work as 99.9999% reliable, I have to respectfully disagree with you. Good quality terminals (e.g. Narva), a good quality ratchet crimper and cable that fills the terminal will result in a connection more reliable that solder in most instances. With small wires you can double over the wire to fill the connector better. Fully insulated crimps give strain relief that is difficult to achieve with soldered joints. Solder is fine for inline splices with heatshrink though and that is where I most often use solder instead of crimps.
example of better quality fully insulated crimp terminals:
Crimp Terminals Utilux Blue Female Spade Fully Insulated Terminal Quantity 100 | eBay
Uninsulated type:
100 X 6 3mm Uninsulated Female Spade Push ON Crimp Terminal NON Insulated 1 5MM2 | eBay
There are some absolutely rubbish terminals that should never be used on a vehicle, such as plain brass ones, including most bought from electronics supermarket style stores.
ok guys thanks very much for your help! i'll get a relay with two terminal 87s then and run a fresh, properly connected wire to each lamp. if i can find some extra wire i'll run proper earths to the battery, although i tested the resistance through the bumper and the multimeter said 0Ω I suppose it'd be better if they were in side to avoid corrosion
reasons why I will not let mechanics and auto electricians work on electricals my car outside of warranty, I don't want crimps in my car, being an electronics engineer and having done high reliability soldering in my previous job on equipment that helps keep airplanes in the sky, and seeing first hand plenty of times the failure of crimps. Ill stick to soldering. you can go ahead and crimp, Id rather know my joins are reliable thanks.
(I do have to agree about the large number of poor quality connectors available though)
Leroy
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