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    Terry
    It's nice to see that old I could never go back attitude !

    that's the nice thing about the linked lith batt.
    Max charge voltage of 14.6V the blue solar has bulk setting of 14.5V
    The blue solar charger is completely modifiable so if I wanted I could drop the float voltage a little but I'll leave it for now. As I'll only be charging the lith when fridge is running meaning the Engels will hopefully protect the batt from over charging. Monitor for a bit and modify charge profile if needed.

    I know some lith batt need specific charge and monitor regimes this option seems pretty ho hum in comparison. I'll just paste in the test conditions

    Standard Charge/Discharge
    Standard charge:Test procedure and its criteria are referred as follows:
    0.2C5A= Charging shall consist of charging at a 0.5 C5A constant current rate until the cell reaches 14.6V. The cell shall then be charged at constant voltage 0f 14.6 volts while tapreing the charge current Charging shall be terminated when the charging current has tapreed to 0.02 C5A.Charge time:Approx 6.0h,The cell shall demonstrate no permanent degradation when charged between 0℃ and 45℃.
    Standard Discharge: 0.2 C5A= Cells shall be discharged at a constant current of 0.2 C5A to 10.0 volts @20℃?5℃.
    If no otherwise specified,the rest time between Charge and Discharge amount to 30min.


    Time will tell

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    Hi again Steve and you can simplify your charging requirements for any lithium battery by setting the charging device to the GEL setting.

    This, on a solar setup will look after your lithium battery without needing any input from yourself.

    Also NOTE, unlike lead acid batteries, where it is best to leave them in a fully charged state when they are not going to be used for some time, lithium batteries should not be left in a fully charged state if they are not going to be for any length of time.

    While is varies from one brand to another, it is far better for a lithium battery to be stored in about a 70% charged state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    While is varies from one brand to another, it is far better for a lithium battery to be stored in about a 70% charged state.
    Id heard charge to 90% allowing storage to drop to 80% and that you float them up to 100% every 3-6 months depending on how you're cycling them. Discharge could go as low as 30% remaining based on total AH drawn so long as the output voltage remained above the critical minimal volts for the battery.

    Based loosely on how the 36v liths are performing on my ryobi stuff it seems to be pretty close

    one of the other reccomendations I've been given (and I have not verified the requirement but on face value it does seem resonable to me) is no hot bulk charging. If the batteru has been working hard either let it cool off before trying to feed higher currents into it or if its still in use put just enough current on to support the load untill the battery cools and then hit it.
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    Talking hot charging hitachi certainly recommends avoiding hot charging on their Li ion batts.

    I pick the ute up tomorrow drive back north then priority one is dog box with slide out fridge

    I'll let y'all know how it swings

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    And on a side note,our lithium ion Hitachi cordless drill/grinder batteries don't like charging if they are hot.

    Our battery drills/grinders get hammered all day at times.

    In high ambients,we have continual problems with them not charging,the chargers continually trip out,which is very frustrating.

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    Hi again folks, I should have been more specific in my last post.

    My comments relate specifically to LiFePO4 batteries ( as is what the thread is about ), not just lithium batteries in general.

    Lithium-ion batteries, as used in portable battery powered tools are lithium-ion and have problems and limitations not found in LiFePO4 type batteries

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    thats one thing I dont like about my ryobi OEM chargers, if they detect the battery is hot once the charger is turned on it wont auto start when it cools down I have to either make brake the battery connection or turn the charger off and on.
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    thats one thing I dont like about my ryobi OEM chargers, if they detect the battery is hot once the charger is turned on it wont auto start when it cools down I have to either make brake the battery connection or turn the charger off and on.
    Same with ours,a PITA.

    In our game we are often around a cold or freezer room,so in they go for a short while

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